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(5 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Eh, I think you are really underestimating the chemistry and calls that have to be made by the Center. As was said, Karras was good at
LG with the Pats, not RG. We have no proven Center that can make the calls as good as Karras. I could go on and on why your solution
just does not make as much sense as adding a proven RG rather than moving our proven Center.
The only reason you think we do not have one is because we have not tried one of our young guys every year rookies start and succeed in the NFL.
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(4 hours ago)Essex Johnson Wrote: of course there is something to lose, especially for people freaking out about our oline, now lets move our veteran center that Joe is comfortable with and throw in two unknowns to play center. Patrick is not have a great start to preseason but the guy is a 8 year veteran with over 60 plus starts and a decent year last year starting at guard, no way is it time to make a drastic move, give him even more reps Monday and see who he performs
Do not twist it to fit your argument he started at LG not RG.
The guy is 32 years old and has whiffed multiple times on stunts and swim moves the guy is very bad and almost got Joe injured blocking against a rookie and backups in the first preseason game.
If he can't hold his own against them he will get Joe killed against starters. You will most likely see this all on Monday.
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(1 hour ago)BengalsBong Wrote: Do not twist it to fit your argument he started at LG not RG.
The guy is 32 years old and has whiffed multiple times on stunts and swim moves the guy is very bad and almost got Joe injured blocking against a rookie and backups in the first preseason game.
If he can't hold his own against them he will get Joe killed against starters. You will most likely see this all on Monday.
No he has right guard also, actually for saints and bears, also I don't have a narrative, it called an analysis that he has performed and is experienced so give him reps over playing no real experience at center and move Karras
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(48 minutes ago)Soonerpeace Wrote:
A big part of this was the OL. Patrick is struggling and Ford was in for Brown at LT.
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(1 hour ago)BengalsBong Wrote: Do not twist it to fit your argument he started at LG not RG.
The guy is 32 years old and has whiffed multiple times on stunts and swim moves the guy is very bad and almost got Joe injured blocking against a rookie and backups in the first preseason game.
If he can't hold his own against them he will get Joe killed against starters. You will most likely see this all on Monday.
Patrick has proven to be a far better NFL guard over the course of his career than Lee & McLaughlin (0 NFL snaps at C combined), who have proven absolutely nothing.
I *hope* Lee & McLauglin become actual NFL caliber players, starters, even. But one guy is currently hurt, a 7th rounder, and has zero NFL snaps at C. The other won the Rimington, but is coming off an Achilles tear last November, and went undrafted. Who knows when, or if, he'll fully recover?
Raym is like a career PS guy as well? Or briefly rostered & not playing?
At guard, we have 3 guys who have actually played in meaningful NFL games at the spot (Patrick, Volson, and Ford) and a rook who was drafted higher than any of the C's in Rivers.
As dismal as the situation is at guard, I think that 3 of the guys there are best served as backups. We'll see on Fairchild, he has a higher ceiling, but has proven nothing.
Still having 3 proven backups is a better situation than C if you take Karras out of the equation.
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(52 minutes ago)Essex Johnson Wrote: No he has right guard also, actually for saints and bears, also I don't have a narrative, it called an analysis that he has performed and is experienced so give him reps over playing no real experience at center and move Karras
We have seen him this year and he looks bad that is a fact.
Let's see what happens Monday night but the more time we wait to see without trying something that could be answered in one or two practice days the father away our dreams get.
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(37 minutes ago)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Patrick has proven to be a far better NFL guard over the course of his career than Lee & McLaughlin (0 NFL snaps at C combined), who have proven absolutely nothing.
I *hope* Lee & McLauglin become actual NFL caliber players, starters, even. But one guy is currently hurt, a 7th rounder, and has zero NFL snaps at C. The other won the Rimington, but is coming off an Achilles tear last November, and went undrafted. Who knows when, or if, he'll fully recover?
Raym is like a career PS guy as well? Or briefly rostered & not playing?
At guard, we have 3 guys who have actually played in meaningful NFL games at the spot (Patrick, Volson, and Ford) and a rook who was drafted higher than any of the C's in Rivers.
As dismal as the situation is at guard, I think that 3 of the guys there are best served as backups. We'll see on Fairchild, he has a higher ceiling, but has proven nothing.
Still having 3 proven backups is a better situation than C if you take Karras out of the equation.
He has been medically cleared.
They do not put if, but, could's or should's with being medically cleared. It is a very straight forward process a yes or no if he can play or not.
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(24 minutes ago)BengalsBong Wrote: He has been medically cleared.
They do not put if, but, could's or should's with being medically cleared. It is a very straight forward process a yes or no if he can play or not.
You do understand that being medically cleared is a far lower standard than putting an untested and unpracticed rookie in the starting lineup
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(24 minutes ago)BengalsBong Wrote: He has been medically cleared.
They do not put if, but, could's or should's with being medically cleared. It is a very straight forward process a yes or no if he can play or not.
Medically cleared does not mean that he's in any sort of "game shape". Medically cleared simply means that he can resume typical activities, it's going to take some time to test the repair, along with getting his body back into competitive condition.
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