Wow....Each team got 432.6 million this week revenue sharing

[Luvnit2]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45807728/packers-say-received-record-4326m-revenue-sharing

This is crazy. Cash should not be an issue to put in escrow (savings accounts) for any guaranteed deals.

I know a lot goes to the cap, salaries and benefits, but for 32 teams NFL made 32 billion last year to share.

[*Nately120*]

Man, if I could do it all over again instead of going to college I would have been born into an NFL ownership family.

[Luvnit2]

(07-23-2025, 08:03 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Man, if I could do it all over again instead of going to college I would have been born into an NFL ownership family.

Yep, it is crazy to think how much money can be made by NFL owners, the bigger the market the more money they make. It kinda hurts their arguments for cities and counties to fund these stadiiums. 

[George Cantstandya]

(07-23-2025, 08:03 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Man, if I could do it all over again instead of going to college I would have been born into an NFL ownership family.

I would have been born into a family that would give me the money to buy my own NFL team.  Then I'd pay them back with free season tickets on the upper level visitors side 20 yard line and a coupon for a free hotdog. :)

[Essex Johnson]

(07-23-2025, 08:05 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Yep, it is crazy to think how much money can be made by NFL owners, the bigger the market the more money they make. It kinda hurts their arguments for cities and counties to fund these stadiiums. 

the crazy part, many of the owners, the nfl is a second gig,, they made way more money in their real profession

[bengalrick]

But, but, but something something small market team, something something, honor your contract, something something

[Frank Booth]

Congrats to the family

[t3r3e3]

(07-23-2025, 10:25 PM)bengalrick Wrote: But, but, but something something small market team, something something, honor your contract, something something

Something something Trey will make more than me this year….

[Bengalitis]

How much $$$$ do the "water boys" make?

[TecmoBengals]

(07-23-2025, 08:03 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Man, if I could do it all over again instead of going to college I would have been born into an NFL ownership family.

I blame my parents for instilling in me the value of higher education when instead they should have been focused on owning an NFL team. Not sure I'll ever truly forgive them for the transgression.

[WeezyBengal]

I'd really love to see the Bengals books.

430 million is a lot, but they are operating with a payroll of around 300 million for their players alone. There are a lot of other expenses that go into running a team. The Bengals do have other streams of revenue though - advertisements, beer sales, etc.

I'd just really, really love to know how much they are profiting each year.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 09:57 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I'd really love to see the Bengals books.

430 million is a lot, but they are operating with a payroll of around 300 million for their players alone. There are a lot of other expenses that go into running a team. The Bengals do have other streams of revenue though - advertisements, beer sales, etc.

I'd just really, really love to know how much they are profiting each year.

I would as well. One thing we know, the Brown family does not live a lavish lifestyle. It is either because they choose not to or they are unable because they do not make as much money as fans like to claim.

My guess is the Bengals leave the majority of any profits in the business and do now draw the money and distribute to family members each year.

But, I would love to know the real after taxes and all expenses number.

[George Cantstandya]

(Yesterday, 09:57 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I'd really love to see the Bengals books.

430 million is a lot, but they are operating with a payroll of around 300 million for their players alone. There are a lot of other expenses that go into running a team. The Bengals do have other streams of revenue though - advertisements, beer sales, etc.

I'd just really, really love to know how much they are profiting each year.

I think the closest we can come is guessing that it is less than the Packers.  

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/sports/nfl/nfl-revenue-sharing-2025/3796619/

Quote:The Packers’ national revenue climbed 7.5%, from $402.3 million to $432.6 million. Their local revenue rose 13.7%, from $251.8 million to $286.4 million, as they benefited from having a ninth regular-season home game for the first time.

That added up to a 9.9% increase in total revenue, from $654.1 million to $719.1 million.

The Packers reported $635.4 million in expenses, up 7% from their 2024 total of $594 million.

Although the Packers’ profit from operations rose nearly 40% — from $60.1 million to $83.7 million — their net income actually dropped 12.5%. Their net income was $85.6 million, down from $98.1 million.

The reason for the discrepancy was a plunge in their non-operating income, which went from $38 million in 2024 to $1.9 million last year.

I don't know how much the Bengals market compares to the Packers but I am guessing it is quite a bit lower. Forbes had the Packers valued at 5.6 billion in 2024 ranked 13th and the Bengals at 4.1 billion ranked last at 32.  

So I don't know, looking at the Packers numbers maybe around 40-50 million for the Bengals????  I don't know enough about all the financial stuff so I'm just throwing that out there as a guess.

[*Synric*]

(Yesterday, 10:15 AM)George Cantstandya Wrote: I think the closest we can come is guessing that it is less than the Packers.  

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/sports/nfl/nfl-revenue-sharing-2025/3796619/


I don't know how much the Bengals market compares to the Packers but I am guessing it is quite a bit lower. Forbes had the Packers valued at 5.6 billion in 2024 ranked 13th and the Bengals at 4.1 billion ranked last at 32.  

So I don't know, looking at the Packers numbers maybe around 40-50 million for the Bengals????  I don't know enough about all the financial stuff so I'm just throwing that out there as a guess.

That's what I've always been told teams average around 20m to 70m in profit. One thing about thr Bengals though even if you don't like how they run their franchise they do reinvest back into the facilities when they make money.

[NotBigzo]

(07-23-2025, 08:05 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Yep, it is crazy to think how much money can be made by NFL owners, the bigger the market the more money they make. It kinda hurts their arguments for cities and counties to fund these stadiiums. 

Makes half a billion in a year.

Begs taxpayers to subsidize what's probably the biggest cost to their operation.

Pretend to have liquidity problems. 

When the job throws you lemons, take a ski trip.

Where do I sign? 

[THE PISTONS]

Taxes, etc probably get taken out of that. It's still a lot of money.

[NotBigzo]

(Yesterday, 10:35 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Taxes, etc probably get taken out of that. It's still a lot of money.

Not to mention how you can overstate some expenses to make the net income figure smaller, or even at a loss, so you can pay as little taxes as possible.

[WeezyBengal]

(Yesterday, 10:24 AM)Synric Wrote: That's what I've always been told teams average around 20m to 70m in profit. One thing about thr Bengals though even if you don't like how they run their franchise they do reinvest back into the facilities when they make money.

Yeah, lately that has been a huge expense for the team. 

I believe they paid out of their own pocket for the new weight room, field turf, a lot of the updated video stuff, etc. 

I'd also love to know how much they have sitting in the bank/liquid cash. You know they've stock piled a bunch over the past 30-40 years before NFL contracts/stadium renovations got insanely expensive. 

I think they are doing just fine, but I can honestly see how they really need to keep eyes on the business/expenses/cash flow because they don't have that major revenue stream that many other owners have. 

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 10:32 AM)NotBigzo Wrote:
Makes half a billion in a year.

Begs taxpayers to subsidize what's probably the biggest cost to their operation.

Pretend to have liquidity problems. 

When the job throws you lemons, take a ski trip.

Where do I sign? 

Simply not true, closer to max of 50 milion a year or 10 times less than you claim.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 11:33 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Yeah, lately that has been a huge expense for the team. 

I believe they paid out of their own pocket for the new weight room, field turf, a lot of the updated video stuff, etc. 

I'd also love to know how much they have sitting in the bank/liquid cash. You know they've stock piled a bunch over the past 30-40 years before NFL contracts/stadium renovations got insanely expensive. 

I think they are doing just fine, but I can honestly see how they really need to keep eyes on the business/expenses/cash flow because they don't have that major revenue stream that many other owners have. 

A couple of problems with this statement, NFL owners were known to have lost money or low profits until Modell negotiated a great TV deal. The TV deals changed the landscape of every NFL franchise. Th efirst huge deal was 1990.

Second, the Bengals had multiple owners until around 2001 when MB bought them out. It is expensive to buy out partners and likely required 10 to 20 year loans they had to pay back. I am not crying on behalf of the Browns family, but they are unique in the way they don't own other businesses that can support their bottom line. I have n doubt they are in great shape now, but I don't think they were killing it until they got the partners paid off, just don't know when that was but guessing aroun 2015 at the earliest.

https://www.benton.org/headlines/art-modell-helped-pioneer-big-tv-deals-nfl

CBS made the first big NFL deal, buying the rights for just over $14 million a season. As the sport grew in popularity, so did the license fees, and it wasn't long before the league started selling to multiple networks, which drove the cost higher. The last deal Modell oversaw was the 1990 package for a then-record $3.6 billion.