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This is the inside Scoop on Andy Dalton as of 11/16
Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton show up on the injury report Wednesday following the team’s first practice since Monday night’s 21-20 loss to the Giants in New York.
I just want to say Andy Dalton is 19th
2016 Regular Season NFL Leaders
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
1 Tom Brady, NE 31.2 35.1 2.1 0.4 41.3 209 89.2 86.9
2 Dak Prescott, DAL 38.4 43.7 9.7 1.2 60.3 343 83.0 82.6
3 Matt Ryan, ATL 41.2 53.5 4.4 1.3 69.9 414 80.3 81.6
4 Drew Brees, NO 33.2 54.7 1.2 0.9 62.6 422 75.3 75.9
5 Matthew Stafford, DET 24.0 34.5 8.3 2.7 52.5 390 70.5 72.3
6 Aaron Rodgers, GB 30.6 34.4 10.4 6.2 59.1 452 72.3 72.0
7 Tyrod Taylor, BUF 19.1 19.1 14.3 1.6 43.2 365 67.7 68.6
8 Andrew Luck, IND 25.3 32.1 8.6 2.7 58.3 460 68.5 68.2
9 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 18.7 28.5 1.9 1.9 38.2 364 67.4 68.0
10 Philip Rivers, SD 23.8 42.2 0.3 4.1 55.4 443 68.1 67.8
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
11 Kirk Cousins, WSH 21.6 46.3 -1.6 2.5 53.4 414 67.6 66.6
12 Derek Carr, OAK 19.4 41.9 2.0 4.1 51.9 428 65.5 66.6
13 Cam Newton, CAR 14.0 17.1 7.0 3.9 38.8 376 62.9 63.8
14 Russell Wilson, SEA 15.6 36.3 -1.9 2.4 45.5 378 64.2 63.7
15 Blaine Gabbert, SF 6.6 7.6 6.7 0.5 17.6 206 61.2 63.2
16 Jameis Winston, TB 17.0 33.2 3.6 -1.3 43.6 417 64.0 62.8
17 Marcus Mariota, TEN 15.1 32.5 1.9 3.2 43.1 406 62.8 62.7
18 Brian Hoyer, CHI 9.9 22.9 -0.4 -0.2 23.9 224 65.2 61.6
19 Andy Dalton, CIN 11.7 22.4 5.0 2.3 39.1 401 60.2 61.1
20 Sam Bradford, MIN 10.5 20.1 -0.1 0.9 32.4 331 61.0 59.5
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
21 Carson Palmer, ARI 12.0 22.3 2.0 3.4 37.3 391 60.7 57.2
22 Eli Manning, NYG 10.0 33.1 -0.4 1.9 40.4 388 59.0 57.2
23 Trevor Siemian, DEN 7.9 23.2 -0.9 3.2 34.0 353 57.8 57.1
24 Cody Kessler, CLE 2.9 13.2 -1.3 1.0 18.6 223 54.6 56.2
25 Blake Bortles, JAX 3.8 19.4 2.8 3.1 33.2 467 52.9 54.5
26 Alex Smith, KC 0.8 18.1 -1.1 0.2 22.5 333 50.9 53.6
27 Joe Flacco, BAL 6.9 27.9 3.2 1.3 41.7 435 55.6 52.6
28 Ryan Tannehill, MIA 5.2 17.3 2.7 0.8 27.9 321 55.7 52.3
29 Brock Osweiler, HOU 0.7 9.8 5.8 2.3 25.4 363 50.7 49.5
30 Carson Wentz, PHI -2.5 28.2 -7.6 0.6 28.2 386 47.7 45.8
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
31 Ryan Fitzpatrick, NYJ -6.5 7.0 4.8 3.2 21.6 364 43.7 44.0
32 Case Keenum, LA -7.5 10.2 0.1 1.2 22.5 378 43.0 43.1
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Can you imagine what Andy would be with a decent Line this year!!
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(11-16-2016, 05:54 PM)Marlon23 Wrote: This is the inside Scoop on Andy Dalton as of 11/16
Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton show up on the injury report Wednesday following the team’s first practice since Monday night’s 21-20 loss to the Giants in New York.
I just want to say Andy Dalton is 19th
2016 Regular Season NFL Leaders
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
1 Tom Brady, NE 31.2 35.1 2.1 0.4 41.3 209 89.2 86.9
2 Dak Prescott, DAL 38.4 43.7 9.7 1.2 60.3 343 83.0 82.6
3 Matt Ryan, ATL 41.2 53.5 4.4 1.3 69.9 414 80.3 81.6
4 Drew Brees, NO 33.2 54.7 1.2 0.9 62.6 422 75.3 75.9
5 Matthew Stafford, DET 24.0 34.5 8.3 2.7 52.5 390 70.5 72.3
6 Aaron Rodgers, GB 30.6 34.4 10.4 6.2 59.1 452 72.3 72.0
7 Tyrod Taylor, BUF 19.1 19.1 14.3 1.6 43.2 365 67.7 68.6
8 Andrew Luck, IND 25.3 32.1 8.6 2.7 58.3 460 68.5 68.2
9 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 18.7 28.5 1.9 1.9 38.2 364 67.4 68.0
10 Philip Rivers, SD 23.8 42.2 0.3 4.1 55.4 443 68.1 67.8
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
11 Kirk Cousins, WSH 21.6 46.3 -1.6 2.5 53.4 414 67.6 66.6
12 Derek Carr, OAK 19.4 41.9 2.0 4.1 51.9 428 65.5 66.6
13 Cam Newton, CAR 14.0 17.1 7.0 3.9 38.8 376 62.9 63.8
14 Russell Wilson, SEA 15.6 36.3 -1.9 2.4 45.5 378 64.2 63.7
15 Blaine Gabbert, SF 6.6 7.6 6.7 0.5 17.6 206 61.2 63.2
16 Jameis Winston, TB 17.0 33.2 3.6 -1.3 43.6 417 64.0 62.8
17 Marcus Mariota, TEN 15.1 32.5 1.9 3.2 43.1 406 62.8 62.7
18 Brian Hoyer, CHI 9.9 22.9 -0.4 -0.2 23.9 224 65.2 61.6
19 Andy Dalton, CIN 11.7 22.4 5.0 2.3 39.1 401 60.2 61.1
20 Sam Bradford, MIN 10.5 20.1 -0.1 0.9 32.4 331 61.0 59.5
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
21 Carson Palmer, ARI 12.0 22.3 2.0 3.4 37.3 391 60.7 57.2
22 Eli Manning, NYG 10.0 33.1 -0.4 1.9 40.4 388 59.0 57.2
23 Trevor Siemian, DEN 7.9 23.2 -0.9 3.2 34.0 353 57.8 57.1
24 Cody Kessler, CLE 2.9 13.2 -1.3 1.0 18.6 223 54.6 56.2
25 Blake Bortles, JAX 3.8 19.4 2.8 3.1 33.2 467 52.9 54.5
26 Alex Smith, KC 0.8 18.1 -1.1 0.2 22.5 333 50.9 53.6
27 Joe Flacco, BAL 6.9 27.9 3.2 1.3 41.7 435 55.6 52.6
28 Ryan Tannehill, MIA 5.2 17.3 2.7 0.8 27.9 321 55.7 52.3
29 Brock Osweiler, HOU 0.7 9.8 5.8 2.3 25.4 363 50.7 49.5
30 Carson Wentz, PHI -2.5 28.2 -7.6 0.6 28.2 386 47.7 45.8
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
31 Ryan Fitzpatrick, NYJ -6.5 7.0 4.8 3.2 21.6 364 43.7 44.0
32 Case Keenum, LA -7.5 10.2 0.1 1.2 22.5 378 43.0 43.1
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Can you imagine what Andy would be with a decent Line this year!!
INCREDIBLE!!! Too bad, we'll never know for sure.
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Just throwing this out there: QBR is perhaps the worst stats ever invented.
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I think if the line was playing like they did last year Andy would be top 3....
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(11-16-2016, 06:05 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I think if the line was playing like they did last year Andy would be top 3....
I think he would be up there for sure... He seemed pretty upset coming off the field when he was sacked at last..
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Dalton, for the most part, has played his guts out this season. He's stayed in the pocket when he has had to knowing full well he may get his head knocked clean off. Even Monday he made the most out of nothing by taking off and getting a first down or two.
The downright embarrassing O-line he has to play behind is borderline criminal. Those five guys upfront (not including Winston) should be ashamed of themselves.
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(11-16-2016, 06:54 PM)JumboTron Wrote: Dalton, for the most part, has played his guts out this season. He's stayed in the pocket when he has had to knowing full well he may get his head knocked clean off. Even Monday he made the most out of nothing by taking off and getting a first down or two.
The downright embarrassing O-line he has to play behind is borderline criminal. Those five guys upfront (not including Winston) should be ashamed of themselves.
I honestly felt bad for Andy coming off the field... We are lucky he was not significantly hurt when his legs went behind him and he came out limping.
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QBR is a stupid creation of ESPN, in an attempt to make them look like some sort of "authority" on judging athletes. Pshaw, everyone knows that ESPN is just a poster for popularity and mildly masked political opinion, these days...
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I don't want to hear a single complaint about Andy Dalton. No player can win a game by themselves but that doesn't stop Andy from trying.
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(11-16-2016, 06:02 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Just throwing this out there: QBR is perhaps the worst stats ever invented.
Agreed. The older QB rating was better, although it still rewarded QBs with minimal attempts if they had decent YPA and minimal INTs.
I think Dalton has played extremely well this season. It won't amount to a hill of beans if they don't go on an incredible run (which I also don't see happening).
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(11-17-2016, 08:53 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: I don't want to hear a single complaint about Andy Dalton. No player can win a game by themselves but that doesn't stop Andy from trying.
(Where are you at Anthony??)
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I know there have been a few bad throws here and there (like every other QB), but I really think Dalton is turning in his best year as a pro. It's not about QBR, but about leading the offense, which is scoring points despite a disastrous OL.
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(11-17-2016, 08:53 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: I don't want to hear a single complaint about Andy Dalton. No player can win a game by themselves but that doesn't stop Andy from trying.
This kind of thinking is exactly why Marvin Lewis is still the head coach. Amazes me how much mediocrity is not only accepted around here, but actually demanded.
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(11-17-2016, 11:29 AM)BengalChris Wrote: I know there have been a few bad throws here and there (like every other QB), but I really think Dalton is turning in his best year as a pro. It's not about QBR, but about leading the offense, which is scoring points despite a disastrous OL.
We're scoring points? Could have fooled me.
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(11-17-2016, 11:32 AM)Fresno B Wrote: This kind of thinking is exactly why Marvin Lewis is still the head coach. Amazes me how much mediocrity is not only accepted around here, but actually demanded.
I stand by my vow not to debate this foolishness, but I do enjoy the free entertainment!
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(11-17-2016, 11:32 AM)Fresno B Wrote: This kind of thinking is exactly why Marvin Lewis is still the head coach. Amazes me how much mediocrity is not only accepted around here, but actually demanded.
Sounds like conspiracy theory.
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(11-17-2016, 11:32 AM)Fresno B Wrote: This kind of thinking is exactly why Marvin Lewis is still the head coach. Amazes me how much mediocrity is not only accepted around here, but actually demanded.
Lol demanded mediocrity, that's some good stuff. I actually have this talk in my group on Facebook. They get so mad at anything about dalton.they act like he's god amongst qbs. To tell you how our fans feel about dalton I had a question last year in my big group. If mccaron won playoff games and Andy came back the next year, who wwould you start. I'm sure you guess who they wanted. They said he shouldn't lose his job because of injury. I'm starting to believe we are cursed with marvin and Andy. I think they are both medicrebut this is my favorite team so I wish for the best.
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