Alt Right murder at Maryland campus

[BmorePat87]

An alleged member of the Alt-Right at the University of Maryland went up to a visiting student from Bowie State and stabbed him in the chest, killing him. The victim, who was black, was a senior and ROTC member who was just commissioned a Second Lieutenant in the Army.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-umd-stabbing-arrest-20170521-story.html

The FBI is looking to see if hate crime charges should be filed. Terrible situation here in Maryland. A man who looked to be headed for good things in service of his nation having his life senselessly ended by some hateful loser.

[*michaelsean*]

Jesus. Since he was already commissioned, maybe they can tack something else on like terrorism so he can end up in one of those Uni-bomber prisons.

[Millhouse]

CNN said he was part of a group known as 'Alt Reich', which is a facebook group.

This poses a question, should groups like this that are pro-Nazi be allowed? Personally I dont because they specifically forfeited their right to exist for the atrocities committed in WW2. But that is just me.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/us/university-of-maryland-stabbing/index.html

[BmorePat87]

(05-22-2017, 02:50 PM)Millhouse Wrote: CNN said he was part of a group known as 'Alt Reich', which is a facebook group.

This poses a question, should groups like this that are pro-Nazi be allowed? Personally I dont because they specifically forfeited their right to exist for the atrocities committed in WW2. But that is just me.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/us/university-of-maryland-stabbing/index.html

As long as you're not promoting violence, your hate is protected. Of course, so many times it ultimately results in violence.

[Benton]

(05-22-2017, 02:50 PM)Millhouse Wrote: CNN said he was part of a group known as 'Alt Reich', which is a facebook group.

This poses a question, should groups like this that are pro-Nazi be allowed? Personally I dont because they specifically forfeited their right to exist for the atrocities committed in WW2. But that is just me.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/us/university-of-maryland-stabbing/index.html

by facebook? or in general?

by facebook, entirely up to them. it's a private business; they can restrict or allow whatever their conscience allows.

in general, absolutely. just because someone is filled with hate doesn't mean they don't have a right to an opinion or a right to share it. it's the duty of good people to make sure that those people stay in a minority, that examples of hate are drowned by a deluge of benevolence, that every call for apathy against a group of people is answered by two calls for peace for everyone.

[Millhouse]

(05-22-2017, 03:17 PM)Benton Wrote: by facebook? or in general?

by facebook, entirely up to them. it's a private business; they can restrict or allow whatever their conscience allows.

in general, absolutely. just because someone is filled with hate doesn't mean they don't have a right to an opinion or a right to share it. it's the duty of good people to make sure that those people stay in a minority, that examples of hate are drowned by a deluge of benevolence, that every call for apathy against a group of people is answered by two calls for peace for everyone.

In general. And I agree with you too. But when it comes to the Nazis specifically, I dont agree because of the wholesale amount of murder and genocide they committed in just a few short years. But groups like the KKK then I would agree, because they didn't try to exterminate everyone that wasn't a 'white arian'. There is a difference in the levels of hate between the two though some shared ideology. 

ps. I know it wont happen, just my opinion and I understand the can of worms that would open. I just hold Nazis to be the worst of the worst in human history, and they have no right to have a say in the world for what they did.

[Benton]

(05-22-2017, 03:28 PM)Millhouse Wrote: In general. And I agree with you too. But when it comes to the Nazis specifically, I dont agree because of the wholesale amount of murder and genocide they committed in just a few short years. But groups like the KKK then I would agree, because they didn't try to exterminate everyone that wasn't a 'white arian'. There is a difference in the levels of hate between the two though some shared ideology. 

ps. I know it wont happen, just my opinion and I understand the can of worms that would open. I just hold Nazis to be the worst of the worst in human history, and they have no right to have a say in the world for what they did.

understood, and a valid point.  :andy:

and that's why i'm not a fan of a lot of the attempts by some bloggers/"media"/activists when they try to draw a parallel between current political candidates/elected officials and nazism. fascism, sure. totalitarianism, i get. but trying to link everything bigoted comment or legislation to nazism takes away the impact of how their actions effected the world.

sorry pat for derailing the thread a little.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

See my thread about why the death penalty isn't all bad. This is another example.

[Vlad]

(05-22-2017, 02:26 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: An alleged member of the Alt-Right at the University of Maryland went up to a visiting student from Bowie State and stabbed him in the chest, killing him. The victim, who was black, was a senior and ROTC member who was just commissioned a Second Lieutenant in the Army.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-umd-stabbing-arrest-20170521-story.html

The FBI is looking to see if hate crime charges should be filed. Terrible situation here in Maryland. A man who looked to be headed for good things in service of his nation having his life senselessly ended by some hateful loser.

Hell yes it's a hate crime. What else could it be?

He deserves death. The loser forfeited his right to exist.