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(06-27-2024, 03:10 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: *not as*, not not at all.
I mainly was making the comparison in athletic ability to Iosivas and the production comparison to Irwin, then throwing Burton into the mix, it further pushes Jones down.
I can see the Depth Chart being:
Chase
Higgins
Irwin
Burton/Iosivas
Burton/Iosivas
Jones
At best.
But then Jones is your returner/STer
Speed and agility-wise, Jones and Iosivas are near-identical when comparing their workout metrics.
Iosivas:
40 - 4.43
10split - 1.50
shuttle - 4.12
3cone - 6.85
Jones:
40 - 4.43
10split - 1.54
shuttle - 4.15
3cone - 6.84
Iosivas is bigger and can jump higher/farther than Jones though.
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(06-28-2024, 03:48 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Speed and agility-wise, Jones and Iosivas are near-identical when comparing their workout metrics.
Iosivas:
40 - 4.43
10split - 1.50
shuttle - 4.12
3cone - 6.85
Jones:
40 - 4.43
10split - 1.54
shuttle - 4.15
3cone - 6.84
Iosivas is bigger and can jump higher/farther than Jones though.
Yep. Good post. A lot of people do not realize a lot of RAS is based on size, not athleticism.
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(06-28-2024, 04:08 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Yep. Good post. A lot of people do not realize a lot of RAS is based on size, not athleticism.
Welll....... Not exactly true. Size is a component. Tee's a big WR but has a RAS of 4.13
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(06-28-2024, 03:48 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Speed and agility-wise, Jones and Iosivas are near-identical when comparing their workout metrics.
Iosivas:
40 - 4.43
10split - 1.50
shuttle - 4.12
3cone - 6.85
Jones:
40 - 4.43
10split - 1.54
shuttle - 4.15
3cone - 6.84
Iosivas is bigger and can jump higher/farther than Jones though.
I did a double take at Yoshi's 1.50 10 yard split checked its really a 1.52 which is still crazy at 6'3 205. As crazy as 6.85 3cone at that same size...
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Ravens rookie WR Devontez Walker said he expected to be picked by Cincy. I found it interesting that the Bengals were interested in the vertical boundary guys like Walker and Jermaine Burton.
https://bvmsports.com/2024/06/28/devontez-walker-reveals-bitterness-towards-unpicked-bengals-channels-a-j-green-for-ravens-success/
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(06-29-2024, 08:24 AM)Synric Wrote: I did a double take at Yoshi's 1.50 10 yard split checked its really a 1.52 which is still crazy at 6'3 205. As crazy as 6.85 3cone at that same size...
Thanks for the update, that is an insane time on the 10 yard split. Still is at 1.52 with his size, Yoshi is an amazing athlete.
(06-29-2024, 08:27 AM)Synric Wrote: Ravens rookie WR Devontez Walker said he expected to be picked by Cincy. I found it interesting that the Bengals were interested in the vertical boundary guys like Walker and Jermaine Burton.
https://bvmsports.com/2024/06/28/devontez-walker-reveals-bitterness-towards-unpicked-bengals-channels-a-j-green-for-ravens-success/
I wanted us to draft that guy, too bad the Rats had the same idea, Walker could be really good.
Us wanting boundary WR's makes me think even more that we want to use Ja'Marr in the Slot much more.
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I’m sold on these two. Looking forward to seeing them at camp.
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(06-29-2024, 08:24 AM)Synric Wrote: I did a double take at Yoshi's 1.50 10 yard split checked its really a 1.52 which is still crazy at 6'3 205. As crazy as 6.85 3cone at that same size...
I got my metrics off ras.football.
You're saying Iosivas's 10-split is incorrect?
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(06-29-2024, 08:27 AM)Synric Wrote: Ravens rookie WR Devontez Walker said he expected to be picked by Cincy. I found it interesting that the Bengals were interested in the vertical boundary guys like Walker and Jermaine Burton.
https://bvmsports.com/2024/06/28/devontez-walker-reveals-bitterness-towards-unpicked-bengals-channels-a-j-green-for-ravens-success/
Yeah, He might want to take at least 1 NFL snap before he starts trash talking.
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(06-30-2024, 07:02 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I got my metrics off ras.football.
You're saying Iosivas's 10-split is incorrect?
The official combine site has it as 1.52, as well.
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Clearly Bengals wasn't all that into Walker. Probably knew Ravens were looking for a wideout and likely wanted Burton. Bengals acted like they were interested in Walker so Ravens would think Burton would fall to them in the 4th where they wanted to select a wideout. Welcome to the game Walker.....
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(Yesterday, 09:30 AM)Whatever Wrote: The official combine site has it as 1.52, as well.
Interesting. I'm surprised ras.football is off then. I thought they pulled those metrics directly from the uploaded Combine results.
I wonder why RAS site would list different. Maybe the 1.50 was an unofficial time and RAS never corrected it, or maybe he ran it slightly faster at Pro Day maybe?
Either way, good catch.
Still fantastic run either way for someone his size.
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(Yesterday, 10:55 AM)jj22 Wrote: Clearly Bengals wasn't all that into Walker. Probably knew Ravens were looking for a wideout and likely wanted Burton. Bengals acted like they were interested in Walker so Ravens would think Burton would fall to them in the 4th where they wanted to select a wideout. Welcome to the game Walker.....
Tez Walker struggled with drops at the Senior Bowl. That's probably a big reason they went with Burton.
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