Anyone Who Brings Up Trump's Past

[BFritz21]

Trump made sexually derogatory remarks in his past and has made crude comments about women, blah, blah, blah.

Ok, but let me ask you this: how many deaths is he responsible for? Does it match Hillary's body count of 4 in Benghazi?

[Belsnickel]

I always love this continued talking point that even pundits still use, even though there have been zero findings to show Clinton was at fault for this. We heard it last night from his apologists in media, and we hear it from his supporters. A Republican led Congressional investigation wasn't able to pin anything on her, so why do you still try?

[GMDino]

(10-08-2016, 08:34 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I always love this continued talking point that even pundits still use, even though there have been zero findings to show Clinton was at fault for this. We heard it last night from his apologists in media, and we hear it from his supporters. A Republican led Congressional investigation wasn't able to pin anything on her, so why do you still try?

Because people are delusional.

They think they "know" all the things Clinton has done because they're "heard about it" for decades.

The actual facts don't matter...its what they "know".

Same reason they ignore that Trump actually is...

[*bfine32*]

(10-08-2016, 03:53 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Trump made sexually derogatory remarks in his past and has made crude comments about women, blah, blah, blah.

Ok, but let me ask you this:  how many deaths is he responsible for?  Does it match Hillary's body count of 4 in Benghazi?

Although I do disagree with the comparison you do stumble upon a valid point. Trump's past was that of a playboy, businessman, tycoon, ect... Of course his past is going to be more politically incorrect than someone that has made a career of politics. 

IMO, you can't have it both ways: You cannot laud Hill's political background and then compare her transgressions with those of a private citizen.

As to Benghazi: Of all her past transgressions, I find her to be of no fault other that that comes with the position she held. Folks there knew the risk.

[GMDino]

(10-08-2016, 10:26 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Although I do disagree with the comparison you do stumble upon a valid point. Trump's past was that of a playboy, businessman, tycoon, ect... 

Married man....

Oops.

[Benton]

(10-08-2016, 03:53 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Trump made sexually derogatory remarks in his past and has made crude comments about women, blah, blah, blah.

Ok, but let me ask you this:  how many deaths is he responsible for?  Does it match Hillary's body count of 4 in Benghazi?

if there was anything inappropriate that resulted in deaths, the multiple withchunts would have gotten her by now. If she had never been investigated this talking point might be something worth talking about.

as it is, Republicans used tax dollars to run this into the ground in hopes of convincing some that it was worth talking about in hopes of getting a Republican potus elected. Congratulations, you just took their bait.

[Rotobeast]

(10-08-2016, 10:31 AM)GMDino Wrote: Married man....

Oops.

What if he's become a Born Again Christian, after the incident ?

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[BFritz21]

(10-08-2016, 03:51 PM)Benton Wrote: if there was anything inappropriate that resulted in deaths, the multiple withchunts would have gotten her by now. If she had never been investigated this talking point might be something worth talking about.

as it is, Republicans used tax dollars to run this into the ground in hopes of convincing some that it was worth talking about in hopes of getting a Republican potus elected. Congratulations, you just took their bait.

You're saying she didn't do anything wrong, but she didn't do anything right, either.

Benghazi happened, in large part, because of her ineptitude and her not doing what a Secretary of State should have done. 

[Vas Deferens]

(10-08-2016, 08:12 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: You're saying she didn't do anything wrong, but she didn't do anything right, either.

Benghazi happened, in large part, because of her ineptitude and her not doing what a Secretary of State should have done. 

Wouldn't this be discovered during a congressional investigation?  Like a finding of general ineptitude or something?   Or was the investigation inept as well?   How far does this well go?

[BFritz21]

(10-08-2016, 09:18 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Wouldn't this be discovered during a congressional investigation?  Like a finding of general ineptitude or something?   Or was the investigation inept as well?   How far does this well go?

Not really because they just investigated what she did, not what she didn't do.

The investigation was largely done by people who had no intentions of ever finding Hillary guilty of anything.  People who were on Hillary's staff had a big influence over the Accountability Board.

Benghazi was vulnerable to an attack, which, as Secretary of Defense, she should have made sure it wasn't.

Obama authorized soldiers to be deployed there the night of the attacks, yet none were.

Like I said, only an investigation with no intention of finding her guilty could have came to their conclusions.

[GMDino]

(10-08-2016, 10:19 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Not really because they just investigated what she did, not what she didn't do.

The investigation was largely done by people who had no intentions of ever finding Hillary guilty of anything.  People who were on Hillary's staff had a big influence over the Accountability Board.

Benghazi was vulnerable to an attack, which, as Secretary of Defense, she should have made sure it wasn't.

Obama authorized soldiers to be deployed there the night of the attacks, yet none were.

Like I said, only an investigation with no intention of finding her guilty could have came to their conclusions.

http://www.ibtimes.com/who-trey-gowdy-leader-benghazi-panel-investigating-hillary-clinton-leads-questioning-2152405

[Rotobeast]

(10-08-2016, 10:19 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Not really because they just investigated what she did, not what she didn't do.

The investigation was largely done by people who had no intentions of ever finding Hillary guilty of anything.  People who were on Hillary's staff had a big influence over the Accountability Board.

Benghazi was vulnerable to an attack, which, as Secretary of Defense, she should have made sure it wasn't.

Obama authorized soldiers to be deployed there the night of the attacks, yet none were.

Like I said, only an investigation with no intention of finding her guilty could have came to their conclusions.

Shoot.... (no sick pun intended)....... if you think that's bad,  look up the supposed connection to arms shipments that happened to coordinate with that date.

[Millhouse]

Bit off topic, but a massive hurricane just hit Florida and other states. CNN & other news networks covered it right up until yesterday. Now they are all on Trump crushing him for comments he made years ago. Gotta love mainstream media and their bent desire to make sure the other terrible candidate gets elected.

**** Hillary, **** Trump. Im ready to move to another country if this is the best we can do in having the worst two candidates in perhaps ever.

[treee]

(10-08-2016, 10:57 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Bit off topic, but a massive hurricane just hit Florida and other states. CNN & other news networks covered it right up until yesterday. Now they are all on Trump crushing him for comments he made years ago. Gotta love mainstream media and their bent desire to make sure the other terrible candidate gets elected.

**** Hillary, **** Trump. Im ready to move to another country if this is the best we can do in having the worst two candidates in perhaps ever.

If you really care that much, try to collect enough signatures to get ranked voting on the ballot for your next state election. That way, 3rd parties aren't automatically cast aside.

[Millhouse]

(10-08-2016, 11:00 PM)treee Wrote: If you really care that much, try to collect enough signatures to get ranked voting on the ballot for your next state election. That way, 3rd parties aren't automatically cast aside.

True, but all the 3rd parties suck worse than the two big ones that already suck.

[Rotobeast]

(10-08-2016, 11:17 PM)Millhouse Wrote: True, but all the 3rd parties suck worse than the two big ones that already suck.

And.....that's because of.....

MONEY.....from special interest groups.

At least the third parties are not bought and paid for, yet.



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[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-08-2016, 03:53 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Trump made sexually derogatory remarks in his past and has made crude comments about women, blah, blah, blah.

Ok, but let me ask you this:  how many deaths is he responsible for?  Does it match Hillary's body count of 4 in Benghazi?

You must be furiously working on your strongly worded response to the Republican National Committee for pulling their support for Trump. 

[JustWinBaby]

(10-08-2016, 03:51 PM)Benton Wrote: if there was anything inappropriate that resulted in deaths, the multiple withchunts would have gotten her by now.

In theory, yes.

But when you use a private server, explicitly for the purpose of evading FOIA and congressional oversight....And that's just the tip of the iceberg (to say nothing of confuscifcation and other legal dodges).


Just know that a vote for Hillary is simply a transfer of wealth (from whomever) to Hillary and Bill, to be inherited by Chelsea.

[xxlt]

In response to the OP:

[xxlt]

(10-08-2016, 08:12 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: You're saying she didn't do anything wrong, but she didn't do anything right, either.

Benghazi happened, in large part, because of her ineptitude and her not doing what a Secretary of State should have done. 

And here is what happened due to the ineptitude of Colin Powell/Condoleezza Rice:

The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they're being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.
June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.
October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.
February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.
May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.
July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.
December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.
March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)
September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.
January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.
March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.
July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.
September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

Source: http://thedailybanter.com/2013/05/13-benghazis-that-occurred-on-bushs-watch-without-a-peep-from-fox-news


So, when you cry as long and loud about all those attacks and all those deaths as you do about Benghazi, I mean
BEN-*****-GHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then you will have some credibility. Until then, STFU.