Posts: 16,141
Threads: 412
Reputation:
59629
Joined: May 2015
Location: Shenandoah Valley
Mood:
So this is something that has been popping up around the country. Groups of people are meeting up at bars/breweries/brewpubs/wherever and drinking beer and singing hymns. Sounds pretty simple. I went to one for the first time last evening.
We have a group of folks that meet at local taprooms in the area and talk about life and drink good beer. It's an informal faith group and mostly folks from our ELCA church. Last month they decided to go to a beer n' hymns event over the mountains at Blue Mountain Brewery. Unfortunately, I came down with something and was in no condition to go anywhere, let alone be drinking, so I missed out. They had such a good time, though, that they decided we should do something similar here. Given that we have at least 4 breweries with taprooms within our city limits, we figured we should definitely make this happen.
So we set everything up and Brothers Craft Brewing welcomed us. So about 20 of us, from newly minted legal drinkers to a silver haired contingent, sat around from 6-8 last evening singing hymns and drinking beer. It was a pretty awesome experience, I have to say. There were a couple of people that came and went that weren't a part of the group, but not many. We aren't a very evangelistic group in the American sense of the word, despite our denomination's name, so we just sat and sang all evening.
For those that are Christian, what do you think about events like these? For those that aren't, if you were in a place like the taproom and there was a group singing hymns but not approaching you about faith or anything, how would you feel in that environment?
Posts: 38,634
Threads: 1,703
Reputation:
55524
Joined: May 2015
Location: SW PA
Mood:
(04-04-2016, 08:53 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: So this is something that has been popping up around the country. Groups of people are meeting up at bars/breweries/brewpubs/wherever and drinking beer and singing hymns. Sounds pretty simple. I went to one for the first time last evening.
We have a group of folks that meet at local taprooms in the area and talk about life and drink good beer. It's an informal faith group and mostly folks from our ELCA church. Last month they decided to go to a beer n' hymns event over the mountains at Blue Mountain Brewery. Unfortunately, I came down with something and was in no condition to go anywhere, let alone be drinking, so I missed out. They had such a good time, though, that they decided we should do something similar here. Given that we have at least 4 breweries with taprooms within our city limits, we figured we should definitely make this happen.
So we set everything up and Brothers Craft Brewing welcomed us. So about 20 of us, from newly minted legal drinkers to a silver haired contingent, sat around from 6-8 last evening singing hymns and drinking beer. It was a pretty awesome experience, I have to say. There were a couple of people that came and went that weren't a part of the group, but not many. We aren't a very evangelistic group in the American sense of the word, despite our denomination's name, so we just sat and sang all evening.
For those that are Christian, what do you think about events like these? For those that aren't, if you were in a place like the taproom and there was a group singing hymns but not approaching you about faith or anything, how would you feel in that environment?
I am for anything that brings people together.
Now personally I'd rather sit around and discuss dogma than sing hymns....but as I said in another thread: If your belief isn't hurting anyone have at it! So it sounds like a good time!
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
Posts: 10,718
Threads: 63
Reputation:
57608
Joined: May 2015
Mood: None
(04-04-2016, 08:58 AM)GMDino Wrote: I am for anything that brings people together.
Now personally I'd rather sit around and discuss dogma than sing hymns....but as I said in another thread: If your belief isn't hurting anyone have at it! So it sounds like a good time!
Agreed. I'm not much of a singer (only words I can remember are skynard and modest mouse songs), but id be down with a beer and bible read night.
Posts: 20,103
Threads: 160
Reputation:
54515
Joined: May 2015
Location: Cincinnati
Mood: None
I no longer drink, and I can't sing. Therefore your meeting is exclusionary and I want it shut down.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
Posts: 38,634
Threads: 1,703
Reputation:
55524
Joined: May 2015
Location: SW PA
Mood:
(04-04-2016, 09:09 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I no longer drink, and I can't sing. Therefore your meeting is exclusionary and I want it shut down.
Now THAT is some of that old timey religion right there!
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
Posts: 40,628
Threads: 1,062
Joined: May 2015
Mood: None
Do you have to pretend that the beer is the blood of Christ?
Maybe pretzels for his body?
Posts: 16,141
Threads: 412
Reputation:
59629
Joined: May 2015
Location: Shenandoah Valley
Mood:
(04-04-2016, 08:58 AM)GMDino Wrote: I am for anything that brings people together.
Now personally I'd rather sit around and discuss dogma than sing hymns....but as I said in another thread: If your belief isn't hurting anyone have at it! So it sounds like a good time!
(04-04-2016, 09:01 AM)Benton Wrote: Agreed. I'm not much of a singer (only words I can remember are skynard and modest mouse songs), but id be down with a beer and bible read night.
Well, that is actually what our main group is about. It's called "Life on Tap" and what we do is get together twice a month to drink and talk faith. So this is something in addition to that.
(04-04-2016, 11:08 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Do you have to pretend that the beer is the blood of Christ?
Maybe pretzels for his body?
We are Lutherans and we don't do the transubstantiation thing. However, although it is not explicitly stated, the reason we say that God is in the bread and the wine of the Eucharist is because God is in all things. So, God is in the beer and pretzels as well!
Posts: 5,792
Threads: 159
Reputation:
19883
Joined: May 2015
Location: Ohio
Mood:
(04-04-2016, 08:53 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: So this is something that has been popping up around the country. Groups of people are meeting up at bars/breweries/brewpubs/wherever and drinking beer and singing hymns. Sounds pretty simple. I went to one for the first time last evening.
We have a group of folks that meet at local taprooms in the area and talk about life and drink good beer. It's an informal faith group and mostly folks from our ELCA church. Last month they decided to go to a beer n' hymns event over the mountains at Blue Mountain Brewery. Unfortunately, I came down with something and was in no condition to go anywhere, let alone be drinking, so I missed out. They had such a good time, though, that they decided we should do something similar here. Given that we have at least 4 breweries with taprooms within our city limits, we figured we should definitely make this happen.
So we set everything up and Brothers Craft Brewing welcomed us. So about 20 of us, from newly minted legal drinkers to a silver haired contingent, sat around from 6-8 last evening singing hymns and drinking beer. It was a pretty awesome experience, I have to say. There were a couple of people that came and went that weren't a part of the group, but not many. We aren't a very evangelistic group in the American sense of the word, despite our denomination's name, so we just sat and sang all evening.
For those that are Christian, what do you think about events like these? For those that aren't, if you were in a place like the taproom and there was a group singing hymns but not approaching you about faith or anything, how would you feel in that environment?
I think it seems ok, religiously speaking.
Honestly though, if I were to walk into the place where your group were singing, I'd walk back out.
If I go out, I want to do my own thing and not have another people's activities bleed over into mine.
Posts: 16,141
Threads: 412
Reputation:
59629
Joined: May 2015
Location: Shenandoah Valley
Mood:
(04-04-2016, 12:13 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I think it seems ok, religiously speaking.
Honestly though, if I were to walk into the place where your group were singing, I'd walk back out.
If I go out, I want to do my own thing and not have another people's activities bleed over into mine.
And I totally get that. That's one reason we went with Sunday evenings. Not much of a crowd out on those evenings.
Posts: 5,792
Threads: 159
Reputation:
19883
Joined: May 2015
Location: Ohio
Mood:
(04-04-2016, 12:18 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: And I totally get that. That's one reason we went with Sunday evenings. Not much of a crowd out on those evenings.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be angry or anything.
I'd probably chuckle, come to the conclusion that you were there first, and if I wanted a more quite evening I'd go elsewhere.
Posts: 16,141
Threads: 412
Reputation:
59629
Joined: May 2015
Location: Shenandoah Valley
Mood:
(04-04-2016, 01:27 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be angry or anything.
I'd probably chuckle, come to the conclusion that you were there first, and if I wanted a more quite evening I'd go elsewhere.
I know, I got that from your statement. It's also one reason we would like to make it a more regular thing. If the brewery we take over for the evening has us up on their board and/or website as an event each month then it is clear that anyone in there not with our group will be subjected to poorly vocalized religious songs that may get progressively worse as the evening runs on (though we will perceive them as better). I want to avoid the people unhappy because here we come rolling in and they didn't know. It's to the benefit of the brewery as much as us.
Posts: 5,303
Threads: 17
Reputation:
21537
Joined: May 2015
Mood: None
At first I would think it was neat, then I'd realize what I was listening to and just walk out. For everyone's best interest. I have the luxury of a LOT of options though.
A group of people are getting together and having a good time is always a good thing. No need for me to get in the way of that.
|