Which came first?

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(03-31-2016, 07:55 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Eggs existed before chickens. Ergo, eggs came first.

Exactly this.  Dinosaurs were laying eggs long before avians of any kind existed.

[Benton]

(03-31-2016, 07:55 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Eggs existed before chickens. Ergo, eggs came first.

(03-31-2016, 10:46 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Exactly this.  Dinosaurs were laying eggs long before avians of any kind existed.

Notable point, but the idea is a philosophical one. The question is: which came first, the organism that creates an offspring or an "offspring" devoid of a creative organism?

Chicken and egg is just easier to say.

[*bfine32*]

Belsnickle Wrote:Eggs existed before chickens. Ergo, eggs came first.

(03-31-2016, 10:46 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Exactly this.  Dinosaurs were laying eggs long before avians of any kind existed.

OK which came first: The Dinosaur or the Dinosaur egg?

[*bfine32*]

(03-31-2016, 11:02 AM)Benton Wrote: Notable point, but the idea is a philosophical one. The question is: which came first, the organism that creates an offspring or an "offspring" devoid of a creative organism?

Chicken and egg is just easier to say.

This. I suppose it could be complicated by asking Which came first: The first egg laying species or the egg.

Chicken or egg is just a turn of phrase.