Everyone that was claiming that people that are transgender should be able to use the bathroom of the sex that they identify as, regardless of plumbing, this is exactly what many of us warned about:
Quote:TORONTO, March 4, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A biological man claiming to be ‘transgender’ so as to gain access to and prey on women at two Toronto shelters was jailed “indefinitely” last week after being declared by a judge a “dangerous offender.”
Pro-family leaders are pointing out that this is exactly the type of incident they warned of as the Ontario government passed its “gender identity” bill, dubbed the “bathroom bill,” in 2012.
Christopher Hambrook, 37, leaned on the ever expanding legal “rights” offered to people who “identify” with the sex opposite their biology. Under the name “Jessica,” he was able to get into the women’s shelters, where he sexually assaulted several women in 2012, the Toronto Sun reports.
Court heard how one woman awoke to find Hambrook assaulting her on her bed. “Her tights had been pulled down past her bottom and her bathing suit had been pulled to the side,” court documents reveal. “She yelled at the accused, demanding to know what he was doing. He simply covered his face with his hands, said ‘Oops!’ and started giggling.”
Court also heard evidence of Hambrook terrorizing a deaf woman living in the shelter. “The accused grabbed the complainant’s hand and forcibly placed it on his crotch area while his penis was erect,” court heard.
The same deaf women reported that Hambrook would peer at her through a gap between the door and its frame while she showered.
Justice John McMahon imposed the “indefinite” prison sentence due to Hambrook’s long history of committing sex crimes.
Hambrook was a former stripper and escort from Quebec before moving to Toronto in 2009 and posing as a woman. While in Montreal he served four years in jail for a 2002 sexual assault of a five-year-old girl who was a family friend and for raping a mentally challenged 27-year-old woman while on bail for the first crime, reports the Toronto Sun.
The prosecution successfully convinced the judge that Hambrook’s out-of-control sexual urges put the public at great risk and that an indefinite jail sentence was the only way to protect the public.
“I am satisfied there is no reasonable expectation that a lesser measure would adequately protect the public from Christopher Hambrook,” said Judge McMahon.
Ontario amended its Human Rights Code to make “gender identity” and “gender expression” prohibited grounds for discrimination in 2012. The bill’s sponsors said at the time that the so-called “Toby's Law” would open the door to “social change” in Canada.
So, it was that easy for him to assault women and cause all of these problems, so do you still think it's ok to risk the privacy and rights of the high majority to satisfy a very small minority of people who are out-of-touch with reality and don't realize that having a penis makes them a man and having a vagina makes them a woman?
(04-20-2016, 01:19 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Everyone that was claiming that people that are transgender should be able to use the bathroom of the sex that they identify as, regardless of plumbing, this is exactly what many of us warned about:
So, it was that easy for him to assault women and cause all of these problems, so do you still think it's ok to risk the privacy and rights of the high majority to satisfy a very small minority of people who are out-of-touch with reality and don't realize that having a penis makes them a man and having a vagina makes them a woman?
We've covered this....you're just late to the party. I don't have time to find all the details again so feel free to research it.
Also, this is still not a transgender person committing a crime...it is a sex offender. who would have committed the crime anyway. And had in the past.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(04-20-2016, 01:19 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Everyone that was claiming that people that are transgender should be able to use the bathroom of the sex that they identify as, regardless of plumbing, this is exactly what many of us warned about:
So, it was that easy for him to assault women and cause all of these problems, so do you still think it's ok to risk the privacy and rights of the high majority to satisfy a very small minority of people who are out-of-touch with reality and don't realize that having a penis makes them a man and having a vagina makes them a woman?
We need to do away with special parking places for handicapped people because some people might fake being handicapped in order to park there, right Brad?
And you are the one out of touch with reality if you do not understand Gender Indentification Disorder. You are running your mouth again without having a clue what you are talking about.
(04-20-2016, 01:19 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Everyone that was claiming that people that are transgender should be able to use the bathroom of the sex that they identify as, regardless of plumbing, this is exactly what many of us warned about:
So, it was that easy for him to assault women and cause all of these problems, so do you still think it's ok to risk the privacy and rights of the high majority to satisfy a very small minority of people who are out-of-touch with reality and don't realize that having a penis makes them a man and having a vagina makes them a woman?
Couple things.
1- The guy — as Dino already pointed out — isn't transgender, he's a sex offender. If the arrests are true (raping a child and a 27 year old woman), the guy is a sexual deviant and should not have been out of jail after 4 years. Or, in the case of raping a child, ever. Soooo... that's got nothing to do with arguing about transgender folks.
2- Who wears a bathing suit to bed?
3- A sign on a door doesn't stop a sexual offender. One of the local hospitals here has a problem with a guy who sneaks in and hides in the women's restroom, then peaks under the stalls. Or he hides in the ceiling. There's been numerous complaints. Security tries to keep an eye out for him. But the guy still manages to sneak in every few weeks and catch a glimpse of a nurse dropping a log.
Why? Because he's a sex offender, and a small plastic sign indicating he's of the wrong gender doesn't prohibit him from entering.
Transgender rights have nothing do to with sex offenders. That's like trying to equate laws for those in wheelchairs to driving codes because both have wheels.
Crap, if only this straight sex offender would have used a gun to sexually assault women in the women's room we could have enough evidence to outlaw guns AND restroom freedom!
(04-20-2016, 06:45 AM)GMDino Wrote: Also, this is still not a transgender person committing a crime...it is a sex offender. who would have committed the crime anyway.
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(04-20-2016, 10:43 AM)fredtoast Wrote: We need to do away with special parking places for handicapped people because some people might fake being handicapped in order to park there, right Brad?
And you are the one out of touch with reality if you do not understand Gender Indentification Disorder. You are running your mouth again without having a clue what you are talking about.
Shiiiiiit! You caught me, damn it! I love doing that. I'll go get my uncle's handicapped sticker and go shopping at Lowe's or Target or anywhere and I get to park up close. Damn, that's nice, especially in the rain!
Deceitful, two-faced she-woman. Never trust a female, Delmar, remember that one simple precept and your time with me will not have been ill spent.
(04-20-2016, 10:43 AM)fredtoast Wrote: We need to do away with special parking places for handicapped people because some people might fake being handicapped in order to park there, right Brad?
Only if we start reserving them for the mentally handicapped.
(04-20-2016, 06:45 AM)GMDino Wrote: We've covered this....you're just late to the party. I don't have time to find all the details again so feel free to research it.
Also, this is still not a transgender person committing a crime...it is a sex offender. who would have committed the crime anyway. And had in the past.
The point was a person could pretend to be transgender.
(04-20-2016, 10:43 AM)fredtoast Wrote: We need to do away with special parking places for handicapped people because some people might fake being handicapped in order to park there, right Brad?
And you are the one out of touch with reality if you do not understand Gender Indentification Disorder. You are running your mouth again without having a clue what you are talking about.
I wish Fred was the lawyer that was defending the cemetery in my case because he's horrible at arguing things (actually, so was their lawyer, but the jury ruled against us for something that he didn't even argue).
The handicapped parking is completely different because who are they endangering by parking in a handicapped spot? They're dicks, but they're not hurting anyone, and that's a huge difference.
Also, being physically disabled is visual and can't really be faked, and even someone who tried to fake a limp or something could easily be identified as a fraud, just as people who aren't the same sex as the bathroom they're using can be identified as a fraud, so you're arguing against yourself.
You're the one out of touch with reality, but it's typical of you.
1- The guy — as Dino already pointed out — isn't transgender, he's a sex offender. If the arrests are true (raping a child and a 27 year old woman), the guy is a sexual deviant and should not have been out of jail after 4 years. Or, in the case of raping a child, ever. Soooo... that's got nothing to do with arguing about transgender folks.
2- Who wears a bathing suit to bed?
3- A sign on a door doesn't stop a sexual offender. One of the local hospitals here has a problem with a guy who sneaks in and hides in the women's restroom, then peaks under the stalls. Or he hides in the ceiling. There's been numerous complaints. Security tries to keep an eye out for him. But the guy still manages to sneak in every few weeks and catch a glimpse of a nurse dropping a log.
Why? Because he's a sex offender, and a small plastic sign indicating he's of the wrong gender doesn't prohibit him from entering.
Transgender rights have nothing do to with sex offenders. That's like trying to equate laws for those in wheelchairs to driving codes because both have wheels.
1 So, a person with no offenses or behavior that made him a sex offender couldn't use the bathroom as a first time to commit his crimes?
2 And tights? Would be one thing if she just came back from the pool and just decided to crash, but tights, too? What kind of kinky stuff is she into?
3 It stops him from just walking into a women's restroom in the middle of a gym or restaurant or anything like that.
The point is that sex offenders can use the transgender bathroom deals as a way to commit crimes.
Also, what about gyms? The gym I go to, the only bathrooms on the bottom floor are locker rooms with showers, so a person could walk into the locker room and pretend like they need to use the bathroom just to look at people naked?
(04-20-2016, 12:09 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Crap, if only this straight sex offender would have used a gun to sexually assault women in the women's room we could have enough evidence to outlaw guns AND restroom freedom!
(04-20-2016, 03:08 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I have found they always lose their transgender status when they commit a crime and become a regular sex offender.
You are missing the point. the attack did not occur because he was transgender. the attack occured because he was a sexual predator.
Here is a story about two straight men attacking another man because they thought he was gay. Based on your logic that means we can't let straight men into mens rooms because they might attack other men.
(04-20-2016, 03:21 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I wish Fred was the lawyer that was defending the cemetery in my case because he's horrible at arguing things (actually, so was their lawyer, but the jury ruled against us for something that he didn't even argue).
(04-20-2016, 03:23 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You are missing the point. the attack did not occur because he was transgender. the attack occured because he was a sexual predator.
Here is a story about two straight men attacking another man because they thought he was gay. Based on your logic that means we can't let straight men into mens rooms because they might attack other men.
Not really my logic at all and that's a strange coorelation. I'm simply stating that two of the first few posters stated this person wasn't a transgender instead he/she was a sex offender. I'd assert no one on this board knows how feminine that person felt when they committed the crime.
But the good news is I know how to cure any transgender that wants curing. Thinking of startin a practice.
(04-20-2016, 03:39 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Once again, Fred attacks me instead of debating and countering the points I made BECAUSE HE CAN'T!
Also, who agreed with you?!
One person?
That's everyone?
It's ridiculous how delusional you are.
I'm delusional?
I'm sorry I must have you confused with another BradFritz who claimed that I magically influenced everyone to agree with me. He claimed that everyone else here except him was too stupid to see through my bullshit.
I apologize for the mistake.
And obviously a cemetery should be liable for the damages to a kid who was so stupid that he got in a car with a drunk driver who drove at ridiculous speed through the cemetery until he crashed. Stupid jury. Stupid lawyers.
(04-20-2016, 03:48 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Not really my logic at all and that's a strange coorelation.
actually my logic is straight on. It is the exact same logic that people are using to discriminate against transgender people.
If we can't let transgender people into public restrooms because they might commit an assault then we can't let straight men into restrooms either because they also commit assaults.
What's that you say? Just because you are a straight man that does not mean you will commit an assault? Hmmmm. . .
(04-20-2016, 01:19 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Everyone that was claiming that people that are transgender should be able to use the bathroom of the sex that they identify as, regardless of plumbing, this is exactly what many of us warned about:
So, it was that easy for him to assault women and cause all of these problems, so do you still think it's ok to risk the privacy and rights of the high majority to satisfy a very small minority of people who are out-of-touch with reality and don't realize that having a penis makes them a man and having a vagina makes them a woman?
you have quite the boner for transgender stories dude
(04-20-2016, 03:58 PM)fredtoast Wrote: actually my logic is straight on. It is the exact same logic that people are using to discriminate against transgender people.
If we can't let transgender people into public restrooms because they might commit an assault then we can't let straight men into restrooms either because they also commit assaults.
What's that you say? Just because you are a straight man that does not mean you will commit an assault? Hmmmm. . .
Nope, if I followed the logic then i would say He's not straight he's a sex offender.
FWIW, your reply to Brad set a new standard in low.
(04-20-2016, 03:08 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I have found they always lose their transgender status when they commit a crime and become a regular sex offender.
You have not found anything becaue you never even look for anything. You have no clue what you are talking about. You just make shit up and claim it is true.
TORONTO - A convicted sexual predator who falsely claimed to be transgender and preyed on women at two Toronto shelters could be declared a dangerous offender this month.
In his psychiatric assessment he lied that he had been receiving hormone treatment for many years and lied that he wanted to pursue a sex change. He admitted he only dressed intermittently in women’s clothing and wanted to remain a man and have a relationship with a woman.
Psychiatric reports concluded Hambrook is not transgender.
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