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FBI invgestigation implicates Clinton’s and Obama Administration
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(10-19-2017, 10:06 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Can we give a 3rd party a serious glance finally?

Can a 3rd party produce a viable candidate finally?

Not that the other parties are hitting it out of the park with their selections.....
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(10-19-2017, 11:28 AM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: Can a 3rd party produce a viable candidate finally?

Not that the other parties are hitting it out of the park with their selections.....

There's some interesting ideas.

https://www.pete4nj.com/tax-plan/
TL;Didn't read the crazy anti-tyranny talk: People in NJ would get a flat tax and could opt what they want to pay taxes on. 
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Obviously I'm not fan of many of Obama's or Hillary's policies and question the morality of Hillary. WTS: There has to be a cloak of secrecy on certain political dealings. It truly is a swamp and Trump won an election claiming he would drain it.

Deals must happen and often if exposed the public can find fault in them if motivated to do so.
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(10-19-2017, 11:28 AM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: Can a 3rd party produce a viable candidate finally?

Not that the other parties are hitting it out of the park with their selections.....

In all fairness, the viability of the candidate seems to be less important than the candidate being the member of a party that can win.  Also, as soon as a 3rd party is viable you'll see the schlock politicians running to show they were "totally always really a 3rd party politician the whole time."  I recall during the election when the media was starting to point out Gary Johnson's flaws and people came to me expecting me to explain them away when I just stated that the Libertarian party must be gaining some steam if we're starting to see political opponents poke holes in their candidate.

Score! In short, the sooner a 3rd party is viable the sooner it will become a breeding ground for garbage politicians. Mainstream popularity tends to water down/ruin everything.
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(10-19-2017, 01:36 PM)Nately120 Wrote: In all fairness, the viability of the candidate seems to be less important than the candidate being the member of a party that can win.  Also, as soon as a 3rd party is viable you'll see the schlock politicians running to show they were "totally always really a 3rd party politician the whole time."  I recall during the election when the media was starting to point out Gary Johnson's flaws and people came to me expecting me to explain them away when I just stated that the Libertarian party must be gaining some steam if we're starting to see political opponents poke holes in their candidate.

Score!  In short, the sooner a 3rd party is viable the sooner it will become a breeding ground for garbage politicians.  Mainstream popularity tends to water down/ruin everything.

The guy wasn't getting elected, so I didn't care what his flaws were.  I was just hoping they'd get a bounce.  Unfortunately they seem to have performed about the same.
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(10-19-2017, 03:17 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The guy wasn't getting elected, so I didn't care what his flaws were.  I was just hoping they'd get a bounce.  Unfortunately they seem to have performed about the same.

Oh well, at least I don't have to justify voting for someone I couldn't stand like almost everyone else I know.
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The mere fact this witness is still alive PROVES he has no dirt on Hillary :)
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