Gov. Rick Snyder to appeal 3% teacher retirement case without AG Schuette's help

[GMDino]

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/07/gov_rick_snyder_to_appeal_3_te.html

Quote:LANSING, MI -- Gov. Rick Snyder plans to appeal a Court of Appeals ruling that would return a 3 percent retirement health care contribution to teachers, but he won't have any help from Attorney General Bill Schuette.


The case stems from a 2010 law that required school employees to contribute three percent of their pay to retiree health benefits. That three percent was collected from July 2010 to Jan. 2013 before a legal battle threw the money into escrow. It now tops $550 million.

The Court of Appeals in a June 7 ruling said that the money was collected unconstitutionally and should be returned to teachers.
Schuette said Tuesday he would not represent Gov. Rick Snyder on an appeal.

"After reviewing the appellate decision in American Federation of Teachers v. State of Michigan ... the Attorney General is declining to provide counsel if the Governor wishes to appeal the 3% MPSERS (Michigan Public School Employees Retirement System) ruling," said Schuette spokeswoman Andrea Bitely.

Less than two hours later, Snyder's office said he would in fact be pursuing an appeal.

"These payments are necessary for the long-term financial stability of the retirement system teachers rely on for health care benefits after their years of hard work come to a close. Keeping the money in the system will help their investments continue to grow and benefit Michigan educators for decades to come," said Snyder spokeswoman Anna Heaton.

The Attorney General will appoint a Special Assistant Attorney General to the case, Bitely said.

The case has already made it up to the Supreme Court level once, but the court remanded it for further consideration by the Court of Appeals.

The American Federation of Teachers - Michigan and Michigan Education Association have been urging Schuette and Snyder to decline appeal and return the $550 million to employees. The unions delivered 33,000 signatures to that effect last month.

"We've been fighting this court battle for five years, and Gov. Snyder and Attorney General Schuette should stand up for hardworking school employees, not work against them," said MEA President Steven Cook in a press release on June 23, when he helped deliver the petitions to Schuette and Snyder.

Nothing says fiscally responsible like holding money illegally and wasting tax payer dollars to defend it.

[*michaelsean*]

Taking people's money for their own good is a liberal's wet dream. These teachers should love it.

[BmorePat87]

3%

I contribute like 7% to my pension and another 6% or so to a private retirement account because I'm not a dumb ass who is going to rely on social security when I'm retired.

[treee]

(07-05-2016, 11:37 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Taking people's money for their own good is a liberal's wet dream. These teachers should love it.

Exhibit A: Types of things people say when they have nothing intelligible to state.

[GMDino]

(07-05-2016, 11:37 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Taking people's money for their own good is a liberal's wet dream.  These teachers should love it.

Well the court ruled against it...five times.

[*michaelsean*]

(07-06-2016, 09:06 AM)GMDino Wrote:

Well the court ruled against it...five times.

I'm just wondering why the teachers don't love it.  

[GMDino]

(07-06-2016, 09:53 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I'm just wondering why the teachers don't love it.  

Because it's unconstitutional.

[*michaelsean*]

(07-06-2016, 09:59 AM)GMDino Wrote: Because it's unconstitutional.

Yeah but they had to bring it to court to have that decided.  

[GMDino]

(07-06-2016, 10:27 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Yeah but they had to bring it to court to have that decided.  

Five times.

[*michaelsean*]

(07-06-2016, 10:35 AM)GMDino Wrote: Five times.

Tell me about it.  They must really hate seniors and want them to die.

[GMDino]

(07-06-2016, 11:38 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Tell me about it.  They must really hate seniors and want them to die.

Probably just hates teachers and unions.

Also must hate the courts and law.

[*michaelsean*]

(07-06-2016, 11:44 AM)GMDino Wrote: Probably just hates teachers and unions.

Also must hate the courts and law.

By appealing?  That seems pretty commonplace in courts.

But hey he's just trying to save senior's lives while teachers and their unions want to kill them.

[GMDino]

(07-06-2016, 11:46 AM)michaelsean Wrote: By appealing?  That seems pretty commonplace in courts.

But hey he's just trying to save senior's lives while teachers and their unions want to kill them.

Appealing five times.

Even the SC wouldn't hear his appeal.

All he's doing is taking money illegally.

[*michaelsean*]

(07-06-2016, 12:02 PM)GMDino Wrote: Appealing five times.

Even the SC wouldn't hear his appeal.

All he's doing is taking money illegally.

Like death row people?  The governor is trying to save the lives of the old people that the teacher's union wants to kill.  To paraphrase, "Extremism in defense of life is no vice."

[GMDino]

(07-06-2016, 11:38 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Tell me about it.  They must really hate seniors and want them to die.

(07-06-2016, 11:46 AM)michaelsean Wrote: By appealing?  That seems pretty commonplace in courts.

But hey he's just trying to save senior's lives while teachers and their unions want to kill them.

(07-06-2016, 12:11 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Like death row people?  The governor is trying to save the lives of the old people that the teacher's union wants to kill.  To paraphrase, "Extremism in defense of life is no vice."

Yeah...no.

The law his passed only guaranteed the money would be taken...not that it ever be actually used for the retirees.  Nor did it give teachers an opt-out of it.

that's why he keeps losing in court and wasting MORE tax payer money that he claims to need.

But maybe if you say it a few more times it will be true.  

[*michaelsean*]

(07-06-2016, 12:21 PM)GMDino Wrote: Yeah...no.

The law his passed only guaranteed the money would be taken...not that it ever be actually used for the retirees.  Nor did it give teachers an opt-out of it.

that's why he keeps losing in court and wasting MORE tax payer money that he claims to need.

But maybe if you say it a few more times it will be true.  

The teacher's union wants to kill seniors.

[*michaelsean*]

It doesn't matter why you oppose something if it involves seniors children or minorities. Whatever your reason, you do it because you hate them and want them to die. See I pay attention to you guys.

[GMDino]

(07-06-2016, 12:31 PM)michaelsean Wrote: It doesn't matter why you oppose something if it involves seniors children or minorities. Whatever your reason, you do it because you hate them and want them to die. See I pay attention to you guys.

Seems like you only pay attention to the right wing noise machine interpretation of reality instead.

[fredtoast]

(07-06-2016, 12:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: Seems like you only pay attention to the right wing noise machine interpretation of reality instead.

Rep.

[treee]

(07-06-2016, 12:26 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The teacher's union wants to kill seniors.

Either you love drenching things in sarcasm or are trolling. There's no way you actually believe what you are saying.