Quote:The rapper’s eleventh studio album, Music To Be Murdered By, was released Friday as well as the video for the track “Darkness,” which calls for an overhaul of U.S. gun laws.
The six-minute video eerily shows a concert shooting playing out with both the dramatization and lyrics referencing the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, when Stephen Paddock opened fire into a crowd of concertgoers at the Route 91 Harvest music festival. It was the deadliest mass shooting in recent U.S. history, killing 59 people and wounding hundreds.
And although "The Sound of Silence" was originally sang by Art Garfunkle I don't think it is fair to blame him. His version was not the one sampled in this song.
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(01-17-2020, 10:16 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Sure we're allowed. I simply asked was reenacting the LV mass shooting in a music video going too far.
Do not confuse me with someone who doesn't want stricter gun laws.
Would it be different if it was in the form of a 2-hour movie?
Questions like this never seem to come up with movies like Zero Dark Thirty or Gettysburg. Those tend to be revered for showing the humanity and reality of life.
(01-17-2020, 10:32 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: My art has been commended as being strongly vaginal which bothers some men. The word itself makes some men uncomfortable. Vagina.
(01-21-2020, 02:42 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Are people going to get more upset about a fictional mass shooting than a real one?
(01-21-2020, 03:14 PM)GMDino Wrote: They're "just asking" if the fictional one is worse.
It's like that morning show interview with Bill Burr. The host asked him if his jokes about the Catholic church (it wasn't specified in the question, but the jokes were about the sexual assaults and abuse) went to far and he goes "Don't you think the Catholic church went a little too far?"
(01-22-2020, 02:50 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This thread is going nowhere.
So let me ask what would have been "too far"?
What if he had used actual footage of the victims dying from their wounds?
I cannot define "too far" in art.
The problem with judging art by its content is that what makes it "art" is how it is framed.
Actual footage of victims dying could certainly be art, especially if part of the point was to help people understand the real world consequences of mass shootings. It could be legitimate in other "non-artistic" contexts as well.
On the other hand, such scenes could also be framed as "death porn" for people who get off on that stuff. I would call that "wrong," not art going too far.
(01-24-2020, 03:59 PM)Dill Wrote: I cannot define "too far" in art.
The problem with judging art by its content is that what makes it "art" is how it is framed.
Actual footage of victims dying could certainly be art, especially if part of the point was to help people understand the real world consequences of mass shootings. It could be legitimate in other "non-artistic" contexts as well.
On the other hand, such scenes could also be framed as "death porn" for people who get off on that stuff. I would call that "wrong," not art going too far.
I understand your position, but "profit motive" becomes an issue when the "art" is also a consumer product. Sometimes shock and controversy sells more than the quality of the "art".
Not saying that performing artists should not make social commentary. Just saying that sometimes they are thinking more about the bottom line than their statement.
John Wayne made many movies glorifying war as a recruitment tool. In "The Fighting Sea Bees" He had a line in there that went something like "Tojo and his bug eyed friends" to stir up animosity among Americans. During the Vietnam War, John Wayne made "The Green Berets" hoping to educate and stir up recruitment. Bugs Bunny called the Japanese "Japo's" during the war.
A few weeks ago, I heard about a guy who duct taped a banana to a canvas and sold it for like $50,000.00 or something stupid like that.
Art is art and we need more of it but when a banana sells for $50,000.00, it tells me there is way to much disposable income out there, lol.
Song of Solomon 2:15
Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.
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