Hillary wants to unemploy hard working Americans

[*michaelsean*]

(03-21-2016, 10:53 AM)CageTheBengal Wrote: All I've taken away from this thread is that the same people who have trouble grasping human evolution have trouble grasping technological evolution as well.


Science is a great subject folks!

Technological evolution that isn't where it needs to be yet.  There's a reason gas cars outsell electric cars by a billion percent.

[*Nately120*]

(03-21-2016, 03:03 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Yeah, I'm not sure if you're trying to refute or affirm my point.

I don't really argue points outside of doing so to analyze why certain people believe or feel the way they do.  I'm more interested in people's perceptions than the environment or jobs in this case.  I find it interesting when people cite job loss as a key factor in something; as if the livelihood of people who dig in the dirt are really a key component when it comes to plutocrats deciding how to fuel the many toys of the consumers in this country.

(03-21-2016, 11:22 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Technological evolution that isn't where it needs to be yet.  There's a reason gas cars outsell electric cars by a billion percent.

Meh, the people on this country run on a health destroying corn-base source of fuel that is propped up by special-interest groups, profit-seeking, and other ridiculous reasons.  We are basically a population that is being fueled by overly processed junk that is giving us diabetes, obesity, and other health related issues on a massive scale (no pun intended).  So if the glory of our lobby-driven capitalistic society has the populace fueling itself with damaging crap what should make me believe this same system is ensuring my car is running on the best and most efficient fuel possible?   

[fredtoast]

(03-21-2016, 06:07 AM)McC Wrote: Hillary's a joke.  Her followers are of limited intelligence.  She contradicts herself so much, she can't even keep track.  Here entire trillion dollar "Clinton Plan", her Socialist manifesto, the one where the government gives everybody everything, is funded by "tax the ultra rich," this liberal battle cry they've been yelling for as long as anyone can remember.  Tax the rich, tax the rich, redistribute the wealth, the backbone of Socialism.

Except, it never really happens because the rich are the ones with their hands up her giant ass, paying for her multi-billion dollar campaign of crap and empty lies.

It never happened before because she has not been President before.

Trump keep promising to build a wall, but it hasn't happened yet either.

[*michaelsean*]

(03-21-2016, 11:49 AM)Nately120 Wrote: I don't really argue points outside of doing so to analyze why certain people believe or feel the way they do.  I'm more interested in people's perceptions than the environment or jobs in this case.  I find it interesting when people cite job loss as a key factor in something; as if the livelihood of people who dig in the dirt are really a key component when it comes to plutocrats deciding how to fuel the many toys of the consumers in this country.


Meh, the people on this country run on a health destroying corn-base source of fuel that is propped up by special-interest groups, profit-seeking, and other ridiculous reasons.  We are basically a population that is being fueled by overly processed junk that is giving us diabetes, obesity, and other health related issues on a massive scale (no pun intended).  So if the glory of our lobby-driven capitalistic society has the populace fueling itself with damaging crap what should make me believe this same system is ensuring my car is running on the best and most efficient fuel possible?   

You don't have to believe anyone.  Go buy a Volt and see for yourself.  Tesla does much better as far as mileage and is predicting 600 miles a charge, but price wise are far out of reach for most people.  

[fredtoast]

(03-21-2016, 11:22 AM)michaelsean Wrote:   There's a reason gas cars outsell electric cars by a billion percent.

Congratulations.  You just came up with a logical argument that Big Mac are better for us than healthy vegetables and Justin Beiber is more talented than Miles Davis.

"It must be true because people buy more of them."

[*michaelsean*]

(03-21-2016, 02:30 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Congratulations.  You just came up with a logical argument that Big Mac are better for us than healthy vegetables.

No I didn't.  

[fredtoast]

(03-21-2016, 02:33 PM)michaelsean Wrote: No I didn't.  

Don't people buy more Big Macs (or fast food in general) than healthy vegetables?

[*michaelsean*]

(03-21-2016, 02:34 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Don't people buy more Big Macs (or fast food in general) than healthy vegetables?

I have no idea, but it doesn't matter.  I'm talking about what people consider the best alternatives.  Your idea of what makes the best alternative isn't necessarily what everyone else considers the best alternative.  Convenience and taste at an affordable price leads the list of what they value most.

[Griever]

(03-20-2016, 06:00 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So what.  If the government had supported the auto industry back then does that mean people like you would have still rode horses.  It is foolish to oppose a good idea just because the government is involoved.  The Chinese government is devoting billions of dollars to solar power.  if we don't do something they will own our asses in 20 years.

Meanwhile here in the US the fossil fuel industry has finally admitted that fracking is the cause of the 900% increase in earthquakes in Oklahoma over the last few years.  Then there is the increase in disease caused by air pollution and the effects on our environment.  If we continue to tie our future to fossil fuels we are doomed.

with how much we are in debt to them, don't they technically already own our ass?

[fredtoast]

(03-21-2016, 02:41 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I have no idea, but it doesn't matter.  I'm talking about what people consider the best alternatives.  Your idea of what makes the best alternative isn't necessarily what everyone else considers the best alternative.  Convenience and taste at an affordable price leads the list of what they value most.

Then you are not talkingh about actual technological evolution.  You are talking about perception.  Those are two different things.

Seat belts and safety glass were clearly superior choices in automobiles, but people were not willing to pay for them.

Instead of just letting people die because of their poor choices the government stepped in and saved millions of lives and billions of dollasr.