Is Japan doing it wrong

[*bfine32*]

http://chersonandmolschky.com/2015/04/13/islamic-terrorism-japan/

Quote:In 2011, Sunni Muslims accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third year in a row. Over 5,700 incidents were committed by Sunni Muslims, responsible for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of 12,533 fatalities.*

Another 24 percent of the fatalities are on Shi´a Muslims. So in 2011, Muslims were responsible for 94 percent of the fatalities in terrorist attacks. Since 2011, with ISIS on the scene, the number of the fatalities –victims of the Muslim terrorist attacks- sharply grew, together with Muslims´ share in the world terrorism that is steadily closing in on 100%.

In 2013, according to the US Department of State, a total of 9,707 terrorist attacks occurred worldwide, resulting in more than 17,800 deaths and more than 32,500 injuries. In addition, more than 2,990 people were kidnapped or taken hostage. Information about perpetrators was reported in source materials for 32 percent of terrorist attacks in 2013.

And of these 32 percent, or 17,800 deaths, only three Muslim terrorist groups, namely the Taliban, ISIS and Boko Haram, were responsible for 5,655 fatalities, or for 31.76 percent! That means that  31.76 percent out of the 32 percent of terrorist attacks which had reported information about the attackers were perpetrated by only three Muslim terrorist groups, out of a good 50 more that exist in our turbulent world!

Muslim terrorists can be proud: their share in world terrorist attacks is now close to 100%.

Seems there is not a single country where Muslims would not show their true colors… But no! There is such a country. It’s one of the most developed countries on Earth, and its democratic nature is recognized worldwide, a true ally of the USA and a member of NATO. However, with all this, there was not a single terrorist attack perpetrated by Muslims in this country. Moreover, there was not a single, even minor, riot, disturbance or protest, no matter how many citizens of this country support cartoons of the prophet Muhammad published in some Danish newspaper or in a French magazine.

The name of this lucky country is Japan.

Of course, Japan achieved this by some super effective integration policy, through using the most advanced technologies and assigning billions of yen on the building of thousands of mosques and Islamic schools all over Japan, banning pork in all public places, introducing separate hours for boys and girls in swimming pools in all public schools, and Japanese male doctors do not dare touch their female patients, Muslim women get immense social aid each time they have a child, Shari´a courts were introduced in the judicial system of Japan, and the Koran is considered a Holy Book in Japan…

No, nothing of the kind. What Japan did to avoid problems related to Muslims was much simpler and cheaper; Japan is practically closed to Muslims.

Officially, immigration to Japan is not closed to Muslims. But the number of the immigration permits given to the applicants from Islamic countries is very low. Obtaining a working visa is not easy for adepts of Islam, even if they are physicians, engineers and managers sent by foreign companies that are active in the region. As a result, Japan is “a country without Muslims”.

There is no reliable estimate on the Japanese Muslim population. However, claims of thirty thousand made by some researchers are without doubt an exaggeration. Some claim that there are only a few hundred. This probably amounts to the number of Muslims openly practicing Islam. Asked to give an estimate on the actual number of Muslims in Japan, the ex-president of the Japan Islamic Association Abu Bakr Morimoto replied, “To say frankly, only one thousand. In the broadest sense, I mean, if we do not exclude those who became Muslims for the sake of, say marriage, and do not practice then the number would be a few thousand.”

One of the leaders of the Muslim community in Japan,  Nur Ad-Din Mori, was asked: “What percentage of Japan’s total population are Muslims?” He responded, “The answer at the moment is: One out of a hundred thousand.”

Japan’s population is 130 million people, so if these Muslim leaders are correct, then there must be around 1300 Muslims. But even those  Muslims who obtained immigration permits and lived many years in the country have very poor chances of becoming Japanese citizens.

Japan officially forbids exhorting people to adopt the religion of Islam (Dawah), and any Muslim who actively encourages conversion to Islam is seen as proselytizing to a foreign and undesirable culture. Too active “promoters of Islam” face deportation- and sometimes even a jail sentence.

The Arabic language is taught by very few academic institutes; I could find only one such institute: The Arabic Islamic Institute in Tokyo. But even the International University of Japan in Tokyo does not offer courses on Arabic or Islamic languages.

Importing the Koran in Arabic is practically impossible, and the only one permitted is the “adapted” version in Japanese.

Until recently, there were only two mosques in Japan: Tokyo Jama Masjid and Kobe Mosque. Now, the total number of Muslim praying sites in Japan is counted in some 30 single story mosques and about a hundred apartment rooms set aside for prayers.

And Japanese society expects Muslims to pray at home: no collective “prostrating” in the streets or squares; in Japan, for such “shows” the actors can get pretty high fines, and in those cases Japanese Police consider “serious”, the participants can be deported.

Quite often, Japanese companies seeking foreign workers specifically note that they are not interested in Muslims.

There is not even a trace of a Shari´a Law in Japan, and halal food is extremely difficult to find in there.

The Japanese tend to perceive Islam as a “strange  and dangerous religion” that a true Japanese should avoid, and the recent murders of two Japanese nationals, Haruna Yukawa and Kenji Goto, by ISIS have not contributed to any improvement in the opinions of the Japanese on this matter.

And the most  interesting thing in the Japanese approach to Muslims is the fact that the Japanese do not feel any guilt for such a “discriminatory” approach to Islam, and they evidently do not think they should  apologize to Muslims for the negative way in which they perceive their religion. Arab gas and oil- yes, and Japan maintains good relations with Arab exporters. But Islam – no, and Muslim immigration- neither. Islam is something that is suitable for others, not for Japan, and therefore the Muslims must remain outside.

And Muslims in Japan do not riot, they do not brand the Japanese “racists”, they do not burn cars, smash windows, behead Japanese soldiers for having been in Afghanistan, Iraq or anywhere else on Earth – and not a single Japanese has been victim of a Muslim terrorist attack on Japanese soil in the last 30 years.

Maybe Europe and the USA should look at the Japanese model of dealing with Muslims more closely?

*This information comes from the National Counterterrorism Center’s (NCTC) unclassified report.  The NCTC provides the State Department with the statistical data it needs and was created to provide government agencies with this type of information.

Just asking

[GMDino]

(12-11-2015, 02:02 AM)bfine32 Wrote: http://chersonandmolschky.com/2015/04/13/islamic-terrorism-japan/


Just asking

I'll have to find time to check their numbers and theories.  How did you say it? "I don't have to read every word that the good, down the middle, people at Cherson and Moschky..."

But...

Quote:ABOUT

This is the blog of authors Y.K. Cherson and Rachel Molschky.

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Please take a moment to check out our book, currently for sale on Amazon:
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Who We Are


Y.K. Cherson is an Israeli writer who has written countless articles for sites like Right Side News, Ali Sina’s Faith Freedom and many more. He has spent a lifetime serving the public. With an extensive military career which provided invaluable experience dealing firsthand with terrorists and future terrorists, his current “day job” keeps him on the front lines of the immigration and related crime issues facing us today.

A graduate of Moscow State University and Tel Aviv University, Cherson has a Ph.D. in International Politics and Economics. Aside from his military and academic background, his unique perspective comes from a lifetime of living around the world: first in Eastern Europe, then the Middle East, and currently in the West.


Rachel Molschky is Cherson’s writing partner. A graduate of Syracuse University and with a background in journalism, as well as business writing and research, Molschky has joined forces with Cherson to inform the public of what the mainstream media fails to report, with the main focus being the three “I’s”: immigration, Islam and Israel.

Both Cherson and Molschky have had personal experience with theimmigration process in different places, and Rachel is a second-generation American native-born citizen, which means it wasn’t long ago that her own family immigrated to a nation completely foreign to their culture. Yet they assimilated into the “melting pot” that used to be America, unlike today with the “multicultural” approach pushed by the liberal front, a concept that is a complete failure when the “religious” values of the immigrants clash with those of the native inhabitants.

Multiculturalism does not promote assimilation, and instead of a cohesive nation with a shared patriotism, immigrants now live in their own parallel communities, many with a hatred for their adopted country.


While they may seem like an unlikely pair, with Cherson from the East and Molschky from the West, both share a nearly identical ethnic and religious heritage. Identifying strongly with the religious ideals which were once the backbone of our nations, they work together to bring the reader a comprehensive and logical view of these topics, something that is lacking in the general mainstream media.

Just saying.

[Benton]

couple thoughts.

unsourced vague stats dont mean a lot.

Japan doesn't have much to do with religions, especially anything western. Most of the country is Buddhist. We've pretty well blurred that line.

many (most?) Asian countries dont have problems with terror attacks. Of course, no Asian country I spending trillions carpet bombing Muslims, extreme and non extreme alike.

honestly, you want to end our problem with extremist Muslims? Stop bombing them, leave the middle east and stop arming other groups of extremist Muslims. Problem solved, we would save a few trillion and nobody gets their rights denied.

[Belsnickel]

Well, I clicked the wrong one. Good for me not following directions.

In all seriousness, the numbers in this are questionable. What the authors on this also fail to mention is that Japanese culture, as Benton pointed out, doesn't much deal with religion, especially not western ones. In fact, despite Japanese employment laws, it is a well known secret that Christian employees are expected to work on days like Christmas and Easter and conform to the norms of the culture. Religious discrimination extends to all of the Abrahamic faiths in Japan.

This also doesn't take into account that Japan is just not a very violent place. Violence breeds violence. When your native population doesn't engage in much violence, within or outside of its borders, it's going to be an overall less violent place and it will not draw in violence from other places, such as international terrorism.

[GMDino]

(12-11-2015, 09:50 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, I clicked the wrong one. Good for me not following directions.

In all seriousness, the numbers in this are questionable. What the authors on this also fail to mention is that Japanese culture, as Benton pointed out, doesn't much deal with religion, especially not western ones. In fact, despite Japanese employment laws, it is a well known secret that Christian employees are expected to work on days like Christmas and Easter and conform to the norms of the culture. Religious discrimination extends to all of the Abrahamic faiths in Japan.

This also doesn't take into account that Japan is just not a very violent place. Violence breeds violence. When your native population doesn't engage in much violence, within or outside of its borders, it's going to be an overall less violent place and it will not draw in violence from other places, such as international terrorism.

They have a problem with gangs / mafia though do they not?  Or is that more of a case where it is such an ingrained part of the culture they accept that?

[Belsnickel]

(12-11-2015, 10:23 AM)GMDino Wrote: They have a problem with gangs / mafia though do they not?  Or is that more of a case where it is such an ingrained part of the culture they accept that?

The Yakuza is big in Japan, however while they do take violent action the rate of their violence is low. Even with such a large issue with them the murder rate in Japan is very, very low. Like, bottom 5 in the world low.

[*bfine32*]

(12-11-2015, 09:21 AM)Benton Wrote: couple thoughts.

unsourced vague stats dont mean a lot.

Japan doesn't have much to do with religions, especially anything western. Most of the country is Buddhist. We've pretty well blurred that line.

many (most?) Asian countries dont have problems with terror attacks. Of course, no Asian country I spending trillions carpet bombing Muslims, extreme and non extreme alike.

honestly, you want to end our problem with extremist Muslims? Stop bombing them, leave the middle east and stop arming other groups of extremist Muslims. Problem solved, we would save a few trillion and nobody gets their rights denied.

Well it does say:


*This information comes from the National Counterterrorism Center’s (NCTC) unclassified report. The NCTC provides the State Department with the statistical data it needs and was created to provide government agencies with this type of information.

[*bfine32*]

(12-11-2015, 08:48 AM)GMDino Wrote: I'll have to find time to check their numbers and theories.  How did you say it? "I don't have to read every word that the good, down the middle, people at Cherson and Moschky..."

But...


Just saying.

You keep trying and one day you may be just like me.........






















Just giving you false hope.

[GMDino]

(12-11-2015, 10:49 AM)bfine32 Wrote: You keep trying and one day you may be just like me.........






















Just giving you false hope.

But enough about me.

[GMDino]

(12-11-2015, 10:29 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: The Yakuza is big in Japan, however while they do take violent action the rate of their violence is low. Even with such a large issue with them the murder rate in Japan is very, very low. Like, bottom 5 in the world low.

Well as I said I haven't looked at the numbers yet.  I just knew about them from reading a bit in the past.

[Belsnickel]

(12-11-2015, 10:46 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Well it does say:


*This information comes from the National Counterterrorism Center’s (NCTC) unclassified report. The NCTC provides the State Department with the statistical data it needs and was created to provide government agencies with this type of information.

That's only referring to the first paragraph specifically, thus the matching asterisks.

[Benton]

(12-11-2015, 10:46 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Well it does say:


*This information comes from the National Counterterrorism Center’s (NCTC) unclassified report. The NCTC provides the State Department with the statistical data it needs and was created to provide government agencies with this type of information.

In reference to:

Quote: Over 5,700 incidents were committed by Sunni Muslims, responsible for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of 12,533 fatalities.*

And it cites the US State Department for

Quote:In 2013, according to the US Department of State, a total of 9,707 terrorist attacks occurred worldwide, resulting in more than 17,800 deaths and more than 32,500 injuries. In addition, more than 2,990 people were kidnapped or taken hostage. Information about perpetrators was reported in source materials for 32 percent of terrorist attacks in 2013.

But other than that, it's pretty vague on where they got a Muslim head count. Or the number of mosques. And it makes mention of Japan fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, but I'm sure you know they only took part in reconstruction and support, Japan did not send troops to actively fight.

[*bfine32*]

(12-11-2015, 09:50 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: What the authors on this also fail to mention is that Japanese culture, as Benton pointed out, doesn't much deal with religion, especially not western ones. In fact, despite Japanese employment laws, it is a well known secret that Christian employees are expected to work on days like Christmas and Easter and conform to the norms of the culture. Religious discrimination extends to all of the Abrahamic faiths in Japan.

So are you saying strict assimilation is a good tool to prevent terrorist attacks?

[Belsnickel]

(12-11-2015, 02:34 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So are you saying strict assimilation is a good tool to prevent terrorist attacks?

No.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(12-11-2015, 09:21 AM)Benton Wrote: couple thoughts.

unsourced vague stats dont mean a lot.

Japan doesn't have much to do with religions, especially anything western. Most of the country is Buddhist. We've pretty well blurred that line.

many (most?) Asian countries dont have problems with terror attacks. Of course, no Asian country I spending trillions carpet bombing Muslims, extreme and non extreme alike.

honestly, you want to end our problem with extremist Muslims? Stop bombing them, leave the middle east and stop arming other groups of extremist Muslims. Problem solved, we would save a few trillion and nobody gets their rights denied.

What a statement. Are you really that blind to terrorism in Asia?
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2014/239405.htm  <--- Lists many of the Asian Countries and the atrocities that happened in 2014 and how the countries are combating it (includes Japan).

Didn't China just boast recently about their elimination of 180 gangs of extremists?
http://www.ibtimes.com/china-says-over-180-gangs-smashed-anti-terror-crackdown-xinjiang-1936755

Philippines: Extremists there want their own country and have tried in the past to take over the island of Mindanao.
http://www.dw.com/en/mindanao-conflict-uproots-tens-of-thousands/a-18330640

Thailand: Bangkok bomb: Deadly blast rocks Thailand capital
http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/muslims-bomb-hindi-shrine.html/

And of course, India and Australia are having their own fair share of terrorists.


Global Terrorism rankings:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

2 Asian Countries in the top 10.. 6-7 in the top 50. There is also only 4 Asian countries that didn't report having any attacks/casualties in 2014 from Terrorists (Japan, North Korea, South Korea and Vietnam). Now that doesn't mean that there wasn't any planned attacks, just that they were thwarted.

And that's probably going to change in 2015-2016. ISIS has been trying to hit South Korea. And I'm sure Japan is also on that list of Countries to hit, but they are very hard to get into and they watch over any Muslim that is inside their country like hawks.

Vietnam doesn't appear to be proactively going after terrorists, and terrorists travel thru Vietnam to get to China and then back to Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia.

[StLucieBengal]

(12-11-2015, 03:30 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: What a statement. Are you really that blind to terrorism in Asia?
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2014/239405.htm  <--- Lists many of the Asian Countries and the atrocities that happened in 2014 and how the countries are combating it (includes Japan).

Didn't China just boast recently about their elimination of 180 gangs of extremists?
http://www.ibtimes.com/china-says-over-180-gangs-smashed-anti-terror-crackdown-xinjiang-1936755

Philippines: Extremists there want their own country and have tried in the past to take over the island of Mindanao.
http://www.dw.com/en/mindanao-conflict-uproots-tens-of-thousands/a-18330640

Thailand: Bangkok bomb: Deadly blast rocks Thailand capital
http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/muslims-bomb-hindi-shrine.html/

And of course, India and Australia are having their own fair share of terrorists.


Global Terrorism rankings:
http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Global-Terrorism-Index-2015.pdf

2 Asian Countries in the top 10.. 6-7 in the top 50. There is also only 4 Asian countries that didn't report having any attacks/casualties in 2014 from Terrorists (Japan, North Korea, South Korea and Vietnam). Now that doesn't mean that there wasn't any planned attacks, just that they were thwarted.

And that's probably going to change in 2015-2016. ISIS has been trying to hit South Korea. And I'm sure Japan is also on that list of Countries to hit, but they are very hard to get into and they watch over any Muslim that is inside their country like hawks.

Vietnam doesn't appear to be proactively going after terrorists, and terrorists travel thru Vietnam to get to China and then back to Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia.

Isn't the Middle East region in Asia technically?

[StLucieBengal]

(12-11-2015, 02:52 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: No.

Do you think assimilation is even needed?   Or are you ok with integration only?

[Mike M (the other one)]

(12-11-2015, 09:23 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Isn't the Middle East region in Asia technically?

Middle East is technically a region, which includes countries from both Asia and Africa. Just like Russia is also on Asia and Eastern Europe. 
For me, when someone refera to Asia i think of the SE Asia not Russia or the Middle East.