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Is Trump As Bad As The Media Makes Him Sound?
#21
(06-06-2017, 06:01 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Trump got elected because enough Americans believed that an intentionally offensive and amoral con-man with absolutely no political experience was exactly what this country needed. , etc.
 

Repeat left wing hater garbage. No need to read the rest of that gem.

Trumps election was the repudiation of Obama and his policies. Yes, being a non politician played a small role but millions of the same Americans that voted for Obama also voted for Trump because they finally woke up and understood what Obamao meant by stating he would "fundamentally change America"... she doesn't need changed fundamentally, America needs to become great again.

And that is exactly what he's trying to do...despite all the hate, crying, bitching and obstruction taking place on the left.

I am no fan of Trumps style. Can't even stand listening to him speak, so we should put more trust in a smooth talking politician?
Trump is not nearly as bad as the media tries to make him out to be. Not even close. Profoundly biased and on a mission to take Trump down. Its glaring.

If Americans were looking for someone offensive you would be listening to that screechy voiced "most cheated on woman in America" ...and the medias daily fawning over that wench. 
#22
Short answer to "is Trump as bad as the media makes him out to be"?

96% of the talking heads in the media which include ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and most major newspapers vote Democrat.
Figure it out for yourself.
#23
(06-07-2017, 01:49 AM)Vlad Wrote: Short answer to "is Trump as bad as the media makes him out to be"?

96% of the talking heads in the media which include ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and most major newspapers vote Democrat.
Figure it out for yourself.

Figure out for yourself what conglomerates own those enities. Is it self preservation at this point? Honestly. You hate this country so much at this point, why don't you move to Russia?
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(06-07-2017, 01:49 AM)Vlad Wrote: Short answer to "is Trump as bad as the media makes him out to be"?

96% of the talking heads in the media which include ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and most major newspapers vote Democrat.
Figure it out for yourself.

Remember when Trump called out Lester Holt as a liberal and it turned out he was a Republican?
#25
(06-07-2017, 01:49 AM)Vlad Wrote: Short answer to "is Trump as bad as the media makes him out to be"?

96% of the talking heads in the media which include ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and most major newspapers vote Democrat.
Figure it out for yourself.

This is some kind of polytheism nothing more.

The whole world plotting against Trump like Zeus was playing with the mortals to test them.

Maybe it's your own relation with Truth that isn't good ...

It's funny that the word Trump in latin languages very very close to deceiving.

There's no coincidences just symbols.

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

#26
(06-07-2017, 12:25 AM)Vlad Wrote: That's not what Brad asked. He was asking why the media tries to make him out to be Hitler.

Yeah Trump is inarticulate and sounds like a buffoon, Hitler not so much.

That is exactly what Brad asked. Brad is the one that made the reference to Hitler.
#27
(06-07-2017, 01:36 AM)jason Wrote: Oh I know. If he didn't constantly attack them, I'm sure they'd have a few better shots hidden up their sleeves.

Your assuming a lot here, like for instance that the MSM is showing unflattering pictures of Trump on purpose and if any flattering photo's of him even exist.
You don't listen to Rush Limbaugh do you? This is something he would rant about.
#28
(06-07-2017, 01:40 AM)Vlad Wrote:  

Repeat left wing hater garbage. No need to read the rest of that gem

It's pretty clear you didn't read my post because you managed to prove my point by going on a generic tirade and brushing off my assertions as merely cliched butthurt liberal talk.  I'm actually most insulted by your assumptions that I like and/or voted for Hilary and actually want her to be president.
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I think he is as bad as he's made out to be - no one is making up audio clips of things he said, or tweets he gladly takes responsibility for. Nor do you need anyone to point out the obvious lack of decorum and polish he has on the world stage (which is somewhat surprising, given his business experience). He's directly responsible for, I don't know, at least half the garbage spewed at him and basically invites a lot of the rest.

I still don't consider that a valid excuse for actively preventing a democratically elected POTUS from governing. I don't know if that's entirely justified or not, but clearly the career Washington pols have decided he won't be allowed to govern.
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(06-07-2017, 06:48 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: I think he is as bad as he's made out to be - no one is making up audio clips of things he said, or tweets he gladly takes responsibility for. Nor do you need anyone to point out the obvious lack of decorum and polish he has on the world stage (which is somewhat surprising, given his business experience). He's directly responsible for, I don't know, at least half the garbage spewed at him and basically invites a lot of the rest.

I still don't consider that a valid excuse for actively preventing a democratically elected POTUS from governing. I don't know if that's entirely justified or not, but clearly the career Washington pols have decided he won't be allowed to govern.

What do you expect from the Republican controlled House and Senate?
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(06-06-2017, 02:24 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: If you listen to any news, read any online mainstream articles, or watch any news or opinionated shows, you'd think Trump was the worst thing since Hitler, but is that just because the media is liberal and because that's what sells?

Brad, there's negative coverage of him on FOX NEWS! Last time I checked, there aren't too many people accusing FOX of being a liberal network.

Others who have come out strongly against Trump include:

Bush's mastermind and career Republican political strategist Karl Rove
Extreme Conservative political commentator George Will - a self described Goldwater Republican!
The editorial staff at Business Insider: note this is a VERY Conservative publication!
James Clapper - a General who served as an intelligence adviser under Republican and Democratic Presidents
Nicole Wallace - she worked for Bush-Cheney as a special assistant to President Bush and also worked on the McCain-Palin campaign...

That is just off the top of my head. Now, we have to believe either A) all those people have been posing as loyal patriotic Americans and in most cases extreme conservative Republicans for over 200 years combined and it is all part of some secret liberal conspiracy controlled by - I don't know who, Hillary maybe (yeah that's it, she lost the election on purpose, all part of her master plan) - and they are all in on it - every last one of them posing as a loyal champion of Republican Presidents and Republican policies when they were all secretly dirty liberal spies, or B) Trump is as bad or even worse than the media makes him out to be.

I know, it is a close call - take a few weeks to think on it.
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#32
After Donald Trump’s surprise election victory, many people on the right and even in the center tried to make the case that he wouldn’t really be that bad. Every time he showed a hint of self-restraint — even if it amounted to nothing more than reading his lines without ad-libbing and laying off Twitter for a day or two — pundits rushed to declare that he had just “become president.”

But can we now admit that he really is as bad as — or worse than — his harshest critics predicted he would be? And it’s not just his contempt for the rule of law, which came through so clearly in the James Comey testimony: As the legal scholar Jeffrey Toobin says, if this isn’t obstruction of justice, what is? There’s also the way Trump’s character, his combination of petty vindictiveness with sheer laziness, leaves him clearly not up to doing the job.

And that’s a huge problem. Think, for a minute, of just how much damage this man has done on multiple fronts in just five months.

Take health care. It’s still unclear whether Republicans will ever be able to pass a replacement for Obamacare (although it is clear that if they do, it will take coverage away from tens of millions). But whatever happens on the legislative front, there are big problems developing in the insurance markets as we speak: companies pulling out, leaving some parts of the country unserved, or asking for large increases in premiums.

Why? It’s not, whatever Republicans may say, because Obamacare is an unworkable system; insurance markets were clearly stabilizing last fall. Instead, as insurers themselves have been explaining, the problem is the uncertainty created by Trump and company, especially the failure to make clear whether crucial subsidies will be maintained. In North Carolina, for example, Blue Cross Blue Shield has filed for a 23 percent rise in premiums, but declared that it would have asked for only 9 percent if it were sure that cost-sharing subsidies would continue.

So why hasn’t it received that assurance? Is it because Trump believes his own assertions that he can cause Obamacare to collapse, then get voters to blame Democrats? Or is it because he’s too busy rage-tweeting and golfing to deal with the issue? It’s hard to tell, but either way, it’s no way to make policy.

Or take the remarkable decision to take Saudi Arabia’s side in its dispute with Qatar, a small nation that houses a huge U.S. military base. There are no good guys in this quarrel, but every reason for the U.S. to stay out of the middle.

So what was Trump doing? There’s no hint of a strategic vision; some sources suggest that he may not even have known about the large U.S. base in Qatar and its crucial role.

The most likely explanation of his actions, which have provoked a crisis in the region (and pushed Qatar into the arms of Iran) is that the Saudis flattered him — the Ritz-Carlton projected a five-story image of his face on the side of its Riyadh property — and their lobbyists spent large sums at the Trump Washington hotel.

Normally, we would consider it ridiculous to suggest that an American president could be so ignorant of crucial issues, and be led to take dangerous foreign policy moves with such crude inducements. But can we believe this about a man who can’t accept the truth about the size of his inauguration crowds, who boasts about his election victory in the most inappropriate circumstances? Yes.

And consider his refusal to endorse the central principle of NATO, the obligation to come to our allies’ defense — a refusal that came as a shock and surprise to his own foreign policy team. What was that about? Nobody knows, but it’s worth considering that Trump apparently ranted to European Union leaders about the difficulty of setting up golf courses in their nations. So maybe it was sheer petulance.

The point, again, is that everything suggests that Trump is neither up to the job of being president nor willing to step aside and let others do the work right. And this is already starting to have real consequences, from disrupted health coverage to ruined alliances to lost credibility on the world stage.

But, you say, stocks are up, so how bad can it be? And it’s true that while Wall Street has lost some of its initial enthusiasm for Trumponomics — the dollar is back down to pre-election levels — investors and businesses don’t seem to be pricing in the risk of really disastrous policy.

That risk is, however, all too real — and one suspects that the big money, which tends to equate wealth with virtue, will be the last to realize just how big that risk really is. The American presidency is, in many ways, sort of an elected monarchy, in which a temperamentally and intellectually unqualified leader can do immense damage.

That’s what’s happening now. And we’re barely one-tenth of the way through Trump’s first term. The worst, almost surely, is yet to come.
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The above was written by Paul Krugman. He is a Nobel Prize winning economist, or what some call an idiot. Link to the article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/09/opinion/donald-trump-health-care-bill.html?rref=collection%2Fcolumn%2Fpaul-krugman&action=click&contentCollection=opinion®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection

I would welcome anyone questioning the media portrayal of Trump to peruse the above article and point out any factual errors.

It isn't the big bad liberal media sabotaging Trump. He is a regular Barney Fife shooting himself in the foot multiple times on a daily basis. Most recent example: his responses to Comey testimony have led for calls from Senators for an obstruction of justice inquiry. It wasn't Comey's testimony, but rather Trump's response that was the trigger. You can't make this stuff up.
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#33
At least he's white! Amirite xx! Hot damn.
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(06-11-2017, 11:22 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: At least he's white!   Amirite xx!  Hot damn.

Technically, orange is the new black. But let's not give all the credit to DT. There once was a John named Boehner...
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