Jemele Hill & ESPN

[*michaelsean*]

(09-13-2017, 05:37 PM)GMDino Wrote: And I'll stick by my stance that if someone says it is racist and the person saying it isn't racist then it's wrong, but not a good enough reason to vote for Trump.

I mean if Trump was running against Obama at least they could argue that.  But still they chose to vote for someone who lacks the temperament, skills and experience.  

Someone told me once that everyone who was for "gay marriage" must be a closet ***.  Oddly, I am not and did not think that he meant me personally.


Sure, people who got butthurt because they "weren't racist" but found out the same guy they supported was supported by a lot of racists.

She did mean you.  What else could she mean? 

 Not some people.  Lots of people.  I got tired of it, and still am.  I didn't vote for him personally, but I get it.  

[Belsnickel]

Apparently Sanders stated, from the podium, that this would be a fireable offense. I really don't give two shits about this reporter or ESPN, the only time I watch the channel is when I get my hair cut, but the White House needs to watch out because that is treading dangerously close to infringing on free speech. A lawsuit could be filed based on that statement and I could see it having some substantial merit.

[GMDino]

(09-13-2017, 05:44 PM)michaelsean Wrote: She did mean you.  What else could she mean? 

 Not some people.  Lots of people.  I got tired of it, and still am.  I didn't vote for him personally, but I get it.  

She probably meant (I am not her) that people who think things are "too liberal" are also probably racist.

Since I'm not racist she didn't mean me.  She meant that's what she thinks.

And, again, some reporter on ESPN that I never heard of isn't affecting my life.  She probably upset some people who aren't racist so they don't want lumped in with racists.  Which, since they aren't racist, they aren't lumped in with.

[*michaelsean*]

(09-13-2017, 05:57 PM)GMDino Wrote: She probably meant (I am not her) that people who think things are "too liberal" are also probably racist.

Since I'm not racist she didn't mean me.  She meant that's what she thinks.

And, again, some reporter on ESPN that I never heard of isn't affecting my life.  She probably upset some people who aren't racist so they don't want lumped in with racists.  Which, since they aren't racist, they aren't lumped in with.

No I meant the lady with the gay marriage comment.

[ballsofsteel]

(09-13-2017, 05:45 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Apparently Sanders stated, from the podium, that this would be a fireable offense. I really don't give two shits about this reporter or ESPN, the only time I watch the channel is when I get my hair cut, but the White House needs to watch out because that is treading dangerously close to infringing on free speech. A lawsuit could be filed based on that statement and I could see it having some substantial merit.

Yes, I seen that. Sarah Suckabee speaking for the WH, said she should be fired for what she said. Guess I was right after all.
Trump says whatever he wants with no repercussions while apparently that girl CAN'T say whatever she wants without the WH trying to get her fired.
Is the WH going to censor Ted Cruz the evangelical phony who got caught watching porn on his facebook account?

[GMDino]

Obama's '07 speech which @DailyCaller just released not only shows that Obama is a racist but also how the press always covers for him.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 3, 2012

[StLucieBengal]

(09-13-2017, 10:36 PM)GMDino Wrote:

Obama's '07 speech which @DailyCaller just released not only shows that Obama is a racist but also how the press always covers for him.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 3, 2012

Not sure the text on this speech but it's obvious obama has serious issues with race.

[GMDino]

(09-13-2017, 10:48 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Not sure the text on this speech but it's obvious obama has serious issues with race.

Here's video of Sarah Sanders saying #JemeleHill should be fired for calling Trump a white supremacist #FIRESARAH pic.twitter.com/hH0tM3RThV

— Scott Dworkin (@funder) September 14, 2017

[StLucieBengal]

(09-13-2017, 11:29 PM)GMDino Wrote:

Here's video of Sarah Sanders saying #JemeleHill should be fired for calling Trump a white supremacist #FIRESARAH pic.twitter.com/hH0tM3RThV

— Scott Dworkin (@funder) September 14, 2017

I never said that woman should be fired. And why should espn care what SHS has to say about their HR policy? It's irrelevant..... which is probably why espn will love using this to weigh in on every show.

Reason #5729.2g on why it's pointless To watch that network.

[GMDino]

(09-13-2017, 11:32 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I never said that woman should be fired.

Should Trump have been fired from NBC?

 

(09-13-2017, 11:32 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: And why should  espn care what SHS has to say about their HR policy?   It's irrelevant..... which is probably why espn will love using this to weigh in on every show.

Yeah, ESPN doesn't care. Everyone who thinks free speech is a good idea should care though.

[StLucieBengal]

(09-13-2017, 11:36 PM)GMDino Wrote: Should Trump have been fired from NBC?

 
Yeah, ESPN doesn't care. Everyone who thinks free speech is a good idea should acre though.

It's not my call on trump at NBC or this woman at espn. I do not have an opinion one way or the other neither represent me or my business.

[GMDino]

Hannity assembles a diverse panel of experts to discuss racism pic.twitter.com/FtnWJ52oHl

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) September 14, 2017

[GMDino]

And Trump doesn't help himself at ALL when he can't stop running his mouth.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/14/trump-signs-resolution-condemning-racist-violence-charlottesville/668706001/

Quote:WASHINGTON — President Trump signed a congressional resolution condemning a white nationalist march on Charlottesville, Va. last month, saying he opposes "hatred, bigotry, and racism in all forms."


But the signing came just hours after he once again compared white supremacists, neo-Nazis and the KKK to the anti-fascist "antifa" movement, repeating some of the very remarks that led Congress to pass the resolution in the first place.



"I think especially in light of the advent of antifa, if you look at what's going on there, you know, you have some pretty bad dudes on the other side also," Trump told reporters on board Air Force One Thursday. "A lot of people are saying — in fact a lot of people have actually written —  'Gee, Trump might have a point.'  I said, you got some very bad people on the other side also, which is true."


Both the House and Senate passed the resolution earlier this week by voice vote, suggesting near unanimous support.


Earlier: Congress backs measure condemning white nationalists


The joint resolution, sponsored by Democratic Virginia senators Tim Kaine and Mark Warner, was largely ceremonial. It condemned the events of Charlottesville as a "domestic terror attack," and urged Trump to "speak out against hate groups that espouse racism, extremism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, and White supremacy."

The resolution also honored Heather Heyer, who was killed when a car driven by right-wing demonstrator drove into a crowd of protesters, and two Virginia troopers, Lt. H. Jay Cullen and Pilot Berke M.M. Bates, who were killed in a helicopter crash while policing the August 12 clashes.


After signing the resolution, Trump also explained his support with a signing statement — a presidential pronouncement usually used to express constitutional concerns or reservations about legislation. But Trump said he was "pleased" to sign the resolution.


"No matter the color of our skin or our ethnic heritage, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God," Trump said. "We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal.  As one people, let us move forward to rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans."



Trump met Wednesday with Sen. Tim Scott, an African-American Republican from South Carolina who's been critical of Trump's handling of Charlottlesville. 

Trump said Thursday that the two had "a great talk" and that he agreed to support some of Scott's proposals to create more job opportunities for young minorities struggling to find work.

Sound like he's trying to still placate his white supremacist supporters?  Yep.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(09-14-2017, 11:43 PM)GMDino Wrote: And Trump doesn't help himself at ALL when he can't stop running his mouth.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/14/trump-signs-resolution-condemning-racist-violence-charlottesville/668706001/



Sound like he's trying to still placate his white supremacist supporters?  Yep.

By pointing out that Antifa are giant pieces of shit as well?  Yeah, I don't get how you are supporting racism by pointing out that violent left wing agitators are violent left wing agitators.  I do understand you think violence is an acceptable response to offensive speech, hence your confusion.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

I wanted to add that GMDino really brings out the worst in people.

Probably because he comes off as a smug guy who can't admit he is ever wrong, makes wild (false) claims and denies any culpability for anything he has ever said or done.

[ballsofsteel]

Sean Spicer was on Jimmy Kimmel Weds. night. He said Trump was really a nice guy, cared about people and wanted to help the country. Why would he say this if it wasn't true.
Maybe we should give Trump a chance.

[*michaelsean*]

(09-14-2017, 11:43 PM)GMDino Wrote: And Trump doesn't help himself at ALL when he can't stop running his mouth.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/14/trump-signs-resolution-condemning-racist-violence-charlottesville/668706001/



Sound like he's trying to still placate his white supremacist supporters?  Yep.

How?

[GMDino]

(09-15-2017, 09:15 AM)michaelsean Wrote: How?

Really?

Because while signing the resolution condemning White Supremacists...he still tries to play the "both sides have bad people" card.

Quote:...you have some pretty bad dudes on the other side also," Trump told reporters on board Air Force One Thursday. "A lot of people are saying — in fact a lot of people have actually written —  'Gee, Trump might have a point.'

Anyone trying to force a false equivalency between Nazis and and another group is trying too hard.

ESPECIALLY when they are signing a resolution like that.

Then he found it necessary to "explain" his support?

Quote:After signing the resolution, Trump also explained his support with a signing statement — a presidential pronouncement usually used to express constitutional concerns or reservations about legislation.

Every dog in the country heard that.

[*michaelsean*]

(09-15-2017, 09:25 AM)GMDino Wrote: Really?

Because while signing the resolution condemning White Supremacists...he still tries to play the "both sides have bad people" card.




Anyone trying to force a false equivalency between Nazis and and another group is trying too hard.

ESPECIALLY when they are signing a resolution like that.

Then he found it necessary to "explain" his support?



Every dog in the country heard that.

So you think the white supremecists he condemned have his back now because he said Anfifa was also bad?  

so if I say "Dino is a POS", and I also say "there are some conservatives on this board who are also a POS"  You're like, "Hell yeah, brother!"

[GMDino]

(09-15-2017, 09:32 AM)michaelsean Wrote: So you think the white supremecists he condemned have his back now because he said Anfifa was also bad?  

so if I say "Dino is a POS", and I also say "there are some conservatives on this board who are also a POS"  You're like, "Hell yeah, brother!"

I think a pattern of saying "Yeah Nazi's are bad people...but there are OTHER bad people too" falsely compares other groups to Nazis and that makes the Nazis quite happy.

They don't believe Trump is serious about them because of what he says about the "others".

And, of course, "many people have written Trump is right".