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Matt Gaetz claims he has a "son"
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Crazy story.

After a go round with another official about black parents worrying more about their children than whit.  Gaetz shares photos of a soon to be 19 year old named Nestor who he says is his son.

The story has veered a bit overnight but Matt said he was dating the boy's sister and took the boy (both of whom he says came from Cuba "legally, of course") in when he was 12 or 13 after his parents died.

He posted pictures of him before calling him a "local student" and Nestor worked as an aide in the Florida House.

So many questions.

From what I have read there is no legal adoption from Cuba.
Gaetz is a single man with a DUI...how did he get to "adopt" a child"?
I'm seeing photos of Nestor with his parents when he was older than 13.  (Not verified yet)


Friends of Gaetz have stepped up and say they new Nestor and the story but Matt didn't want to make him political.

While this would be a heartwarming story it goes against everything Matt Gaetz has ever done publicly that is political.

It is interesting to say the least.

https://people.com/politics/matt-gaetz-tells-story-boy-he-raised-as-a-son/?amp=true


Quote:Six years ago, Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz says, he met the young boy he now calls his son.

Nestor Galban was 12 and had just arrived from Cuba, where he’d grown up and where his mother had recently died of breast cancer, Gaetz says. Then a state legislator, Gaetz was dating Nestor’s older sister.


And so Nestor moved in with them — “a modern family,” Gaetz says now.


He says that, except for an interruption during Nestor’s junior year after Gaetz and Nestor’s sister broke up, Nestor has basically lived with him since moving from Cuba.


“He is a part of my family story,” Gaetz, 38, tells PEOPLE, adding: “My work with Nestor, our family, no element of my public service could compare to the joy that our family has brought me.”


Geatz did not formally adopt Nestor (and he declines to discuss Nestor’s relationship with his biological family now). He re-frames the matter, saying, “Our relationship as a family is defined by our love for each other, not by any paperwork.”


Nestor, he says, “is my son in every conceivable way, and I can’t imagine loving him any more if he was my own flesh and blood.” Recalling those early days with Nestor — including a scene he paints of the two playing catch not long after the boy arrived to the U.S. — Gaetz warns that he might start to choke up.

“I just think that it’s been the greatest thing in my life that this young man has been a part of my family,” he says, “and going forward I look forward to being his biggest cheerleader.”


This is the first time any of this story has been shared publicly.


On Thursday, Gaetz tweeted a photo of himself and Nestor, announcing that he’d been parenting the 19-year-old for years.


"I am so proud of him and raising him has been the best, most rewarding thing I’ve done in my life," he wrote before biting back at a Democratic congressman he had argued with at a hearing the day before over policing and raising kids of color.


“As you can imagine, I was triggered when (to make an absurd debate point) a fellow congressman diminished the contributions of Republicans because we don’t raise non-white kids,” he wrote. “Well, I have."


The second-term Republican congressman from Florida's Panhandle had not publicly identified himself as a father before this week and his office has said that he did not have kids.


His announcement drew widespread surprise and, in many left-leaning circles, much criticism. (It was also rapidly meme'd.)

Detractors said Gaetz had turned the teenager into a prop; others called it a dismissive slight-of-hand — like shrugging off accusations of prejudice by pointing to personal friendships with people of color. Many pointed to his views on immigration more broadly. In a characteristic slam, one user tweeted: “Matt Gaetz using Nestor to score political points or to show he is not racist is disgusting.”

In other corners of social media, conspiratorial theories began tangling together about Nestor’s biography and his biological relatives.


None of that fazes Gaetz.


“I haven’t responded to it there and feel no need to respond to it now,” he says of the social media discussion about Nestor. “My son and I owe no explanation about our family to the blue-checkmark brigade.”

“I don’t really live in the minds of others,” says the lawmaker who earlier this year made headlines for wearing a gas mask on the floor of the House of Representatives, in the early days of the novel coronavirus pandemic. “I live for the values and principles that matter to my constituents and that I’ve been raised with.”


He says he was motivated to speak out about Nestor because, in his view, he was being unfairly maligned after his viral argument with Democratic Rep. Cedric Richmond at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday.

Richmond had been discussing the need for police reform and the "imminent threat" of police to black men. “People are dying as we talk. I am not interested in moving at a snail's pace. I’m not interested in a watered-down bill that mandates nothing,” he said.

Afterward, Gaetz said that he "appreciate[d] your passion" but then asked Richmond if he was saying none of the other representatives had non-white kids. (Richmond had referred to his own son.)

Richmond snapped back that he wouldn't be "sidetracked about the color of our children .... It is about black males, black people in the streets that are getting killed. And if one of them happens to be your kid, I'm concerned about him, too. And clearly I'm more concerned about him than you are."


"Excuse me, you're claiming you're more concerned for my family than I do?" Gaetz replied, voice rising to a yell. "Who in the hell do you think you are?"

Richmond later shot back: "Was that a nerve?"


The exchange, Gaetz says now, “made me want to get up and rip his head off.”


For years, Gaetz says he maintained Nestor’s privacy. But that, he insists, “is very different than suggesting I was hiding him.”


“Just imagine: You’re 12 years old, your mom has just died, you’re learning English as you’re trying to get your footing in school. It just wasn’t the right time in middle school and high school to subject him to politics,” Gaetz says now.


Of the incredulous responses he’s received from users who point back to a March 2016 photo in which Gaetz refers to Nestor as a “local student” or a 2017 Facebook video Gaetz recorded for constituents with Nestor sitting in the background in which he calls Nestor his “helper” (seeming almost to catch himself on an S-sounding word first), Gaetz says:


“I felt like coming to the country, dealing with the death of a mother, learning English and enduring the normal trials and tribulations of high school and middle school were enough on the young man’s plate.”
Now, however, Gaetz says that Nestor is ready: “He’s very eager to be identified as my son as publicly as people will accept it.”


Gaetz says his bond with Nestor has been known in his Florida community and among his social circle, including on Capitol Hill: “My friends know I have a son. The people who go to church with me know I have a son, my fellow soccer parents know I have a son.” (He says Nestor was his “best door-knocker” during his 2016 congressional campaign: “Nestor was very persuasive at getting people to accept Matt Gaetz yard signs.”)

On Twitter, former California Rep. Katie Hill, a Democrat, spoke out in defense of Gaetz’s revelation that he’s been secretly parenting a teenager.


"Many of you know @mattgaetz & I have an unlikely friendship. I can’t stand a lot of his beliefs but he’s been there for me when others haven’t," she wrote. "He talks about Nestor more than anything, has done so much for his son & is truly a proud dad."

Detailing the timeline, Gaetz tells PEOPLE Nestor lived with him for around four years after first arriving in Cuba before going to Miami for his junior year and living with his biological father: “Then he turned 18 it was easier for him to just move back with me.” (Gaetz declines to specify when exactly he and Nestor's older sister broke up.)

Elsewhere in the interview, he describes the sequence of events this way: “There was a time period at the beginning of my service in Congress where, based on his age and other circumstances, it was not tenable for him to live with me."
With his own Twitter account, Nestor has been wading into the reaction online. He tweeted back at another user on Thursday: "I wanted as a secret before because I wanted to have a normal life without any of y’all getting in it. But now I’m 19 and I old enough to handle it."

Briefly speaking with PEOPLE while on the phone with Gaetz, Nestor says: “Matt is not my biological father, but he raised me as his own son when I came from Cuba after my mother’s death.”


“He’s always been a role model in my life,” Nestor says, rattling off a quick list of lessons learned: baseball, cooking, English. (“I taught him some Spanish, too.”)

Nestor, Gaetz says, has taught him patience — the kind any parent learns.


"Of course," he also says, "my views on race are informed by the fact that I have been raising a non-white child."
"I’ve had ‘the talk’ with Nestor about how to interact with law enforcement," he says. "It’s probably a different talk than I would have had if I had a white son."

Gaetz's sister, Erin, tweeted on Thursday as well. She shared family photos of Nestor through the years, including of his high school graduation earlier this year, him on Christmas Eve in 2013 and him with Gaetz and his grandmother and grandfather. (Nestor posted the same photo on Instagram in 2018 with the caption “Grandma’s Boys.”)

In the fall, Nestor will start at Troy University in Alabama, where he plans to study nursing. The distance, Gaetz says, is “far enough away and still close enough.”


Their first parent-student visit to the campus is in three weeks, Gaetz says.


“I want to study nursing because I like helping people and I think every day being able to save people’s lives and being able to heal people and take care of them makes me happy,” Nestor says. Also: He really likes science.

None of this, if all 100% true makes Matt Gaetz less of an ahole, but it is very interesting that he kept it out of the public eye all this time and that the story isn't set in stone.
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Family comes in all shapes. Good on gaetz for helping a kid out.
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(06-19-2020, 10:46 AM)Benton Wrote: Family comes in all shapes. Good on gaetz for helping a kid out.

The question is...did he "help"?

Daddy has money and influences so the kid had a much easier life with Gaetz but does that make him his "son"?

See if someone is an awful person and says awful things then I have to withhold my congratulations when they seem to have done someone not awful.

Like Strom Thurmond was really nice to his black daughter...he just didn't tell anyone about her while continuing to be awful.

And I am NOT slamming Matt for not telling anyone or for potentially being a decent human in one tiny sliver of his life.

But I do have questions.  Like why the story changed in the hours after it wa posted.  How he came to live with Matt, why he left, and why he came back.  And what is the deal with his parents.

They both went on Tucker's show last night so the questions are fair.
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(06-19-2020, 10:46 AM)Benton Wrote: Family comes in all shapes. Good on gaetz for helping a kid out.

Yea, this. I know people want to attack Gaetz for the fact that he's a sack of shit, but it sounds like he did something decent. I'm not going to sit here and praise him, but I don't think it requires an attack.
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(06-19-2020, 11:07 AM)GMDino Wrote: The question is...did he "help"?

Daddy has money and influences so the kid had a much easier life with Gaetz but does that make him his "son"?

See if someone is an awful person and says awful things then I have to withhold my congratulations when they seem to have done someone not awful.

Like Strom Thurmond was really nice to his black daughter...he just didn't tell anyone about her while continuing to be awful.

And I am NOT slamming Matt for not telling anyone or for potentially being a decent human in one tiny sliver of his life.

But I do have questions.  Like why the story changed in the hours after it wa posted.  How he came to live with Matt, why he left, and why he came back.  And what is the deal with his parents.

They both went on Tucker's show last night so the questions are fair.


If all he was doing was helping a kid out, good on him. Does t mean he's not  a toxic, opportunist politician. But I'm not going to pick apart an act of kindness if that's what it was.
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(06-19-2020, 11:57 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Yea, this. I know people want to attack Gaetz for the fact that he's a sack of shit, but it sounds like he did something decent. I'm not going to sit here and praise him, but I don't think it requires an attack.


Same.

He did a good thing by helping the kid out.  I don't like how he just suddenly brought him forward as a political stunt, but if the kid is not complaining I don't have a lot of grounds to be upset.
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(06-19-2020, 11:57 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Yea, this. I know people want to attack Gaetz for the fact that he's a sack of shit, but it sounds like he did something decent. I'm not going to sit here and praise him, but I don't think it requires an attack.

(06-19-2020, 12:23 PM)Benton Wrote: If all he was doing was helping a kid out, good on him. Does t mean he's not  a toxic, opportunist politician. But I'm not going to pick apart an act of kindness if that's what it was.

(06-19-2020, 12:26 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Same.

He did a good thing by helping the kid out.  I don't like how he just suddenly brought him forward as a political stunt, but if the kid is not complaining I don't have a lot of grounds to be upset.

We all agree that this (if true) is a good thing and doesn't make him less of a sack of crap.  My natural curiosity though wonders about a lot of the story and how it changed within twelve hours.  That is above and beyond the good thing or not.
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what changes to the story?
If it was exact dates changed, I wouldn't worry much about that.
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(06-22-2020, 09:45 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: what changes to the story?
If it was exact dates changed, I wouldn't worry much about that.

"I have a son" became "I have a boy who stayed with me while I dated his sister after he lost his parents who are actually quite alive and he really only moved back in with me after her turned 18."

He didn't adopt him.

We don't even know if he had anything to do with his education or upbringing except he got his a page job and took some nice holiday photos with him occasionally.

That is not a "son".  Big Brother and Big Sisters do more with children than that.  
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