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More Proof the Russians worked with BLM.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosalindadams/these-americans-were-tricked-into-working-for-russia-they?utm_term=.ncqebKoQ2#.kq5R4O1bx

Sowing the seeds of dissent.

Quote:These Americans Were Tricked Into Working For Russia. They Say They Had No Idea.

BuzzFeed News spoke to four people who organized black rights protests and taught self-defense classes after being contacted by Russian trolls pretending to be US activists.

October 17, 2017, at 10:34 p.m.
BuzzFeed News spoke to four people who organized black rights protests and taught self-defense classes after being contacted by Russian trolls pretending to be US activists.

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Russia’s most infamous troll farm recruited US activists to help stage protests and organize self-defense classes in black communities as part of an effort to sow divisions in US society ahead of the 2016 election and well into 2017.

Four people contacted by what is believed to be the “American Department” of the St. Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency told BuzzFeed News that while they found their contacts strange, they never suspected that they were the target of foreign recruitment.

The operation, including the names of the activists, was first reported by Russian news outlet RBC in a major investigation published Tuesday.

One target was Micah White, a cofounder of Occupy Wall Street. When he was contacted in May 2016 by a man named Yan Big Davis, who presented himself as a freelance reporter, he didn’t think anything of it, since he often gave interviews about activism.

According to emails seen by BuzzFeed News, Davis said he was writing for a site called BlackMattersUS, which had over 200,000 followers and focused “mostly on racism and police brutality themes.” In its report, based on interviews with current and former employees of the troll farm as well as a source close to its leadership and internal documents, RBC found that BlackMattersUS was linked to the Internet Research Agency.

The BlackMatters site, which is still up, features awkward language throughout. Its contact page tells those who would reach out, “You are exactly that person, who can help us to figure out not only the top stories, but also the events that are really important to an ordinary African-American.” The group did not immediately respond to a BuzzFeed News request for comment.

Although the group’s main site is still live, its Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook accounts have been suspended. RBC said Facebook suspended the group’s account as part of a purge of 470 accounts run by the Internet Research Agency. Andy Stone, a Facebook spokesperson, told BuzzFeed News he was "not able to confirm" that the groups were suspended as part of the purge.

Davis wrote to White requesting an interview. “We admire the job you did for the protest movement in the US,” he wrote in an email seen by BuzzFeed News.

When they spoke on the phone the following month, White said the connection sounded as if Davis was calling from a long distance. His accent sounded strange. He assumed he was probably speaking to an African man.

“The idea that he was a Russian was the furthest thing from my mind,” White told BuzzFeed News.

The questions Davis asked him in the interview also sounded different to him than the questions he routinely gets from reporters.



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White said that after the story was published on the BlackMatters site a few days later, he didn’t think more about it. But Davis continued to email him for several months and asked him to promote some events. White said that since the interview had been so strange and the piece hadn’t particularly resonated with him, “I just kind of ignored them.”

In August 2016, Davis emailed him about a flashmob dedicated to the MOVE 9, members of a black radical group that formed in the 1970s who are currently in prison. “I hope you will share our aspiration to bring attention to MOVE 9, seven of them are still alive,” Davis wrote. “They were in rows of the first people who fought with police brutality because they were worried about the safe future of black kids.”

White didn’t respond. “I support MOVE but it’s also outside of the normal concerns for black activists I would say,” he told BuzzFeed News.

The following month, Davis emailed him again asking him to share information with his “audience”about the case of Jerome Skee Smith, an African-American convicted of a murder he says he didn’t commit. “It is really the case when only simple sharing can save his life,” Davis wrote to him. White also didn’t respond. Davis emailed him one final time to tell him that the trial had been pushed back and to ask again that he share the information with his audience.

“Thank you for being a part of this. Together, we are creating history,” Davis wrote to him. An email sent to the address for Davis that corresponded with White went unanswered.

BlackMattersUS also contacted other activists such as Conrad James, who runs a nonprofit based in Raleigh, North Carolina called Living Ultra-Violet. James told BuzzFeed News that BlackMattersUS reached out with a message from its Facebook page, rather than from an individual member, asking him to speak at a rally in September 2016 after the death of Keith Lamont Scott, a black man who was shot by police in Charlotte.

“I thought it was a knockoff of Black Lives Matter,” James said about the name, but when he looked at their website, “they looked legit.”

James said that when he found out there was no organizer for the event, he offered to organize the rally himself and was told by the page’s manager to contact a woman named Stephanie Williamson, who he described to BuzzFeed News as a spokeswoman. While James said he found this odd, the only other detail that struck him as strange was a white man who he said accompanied Williamson and never said a word or smiled.

Other things checked out, however. Williamson gave him a bank card to pay for expenses such as microphones and speakers, James said. And the permits for the event appeared to be in order. James said he also organized a second, larger rally in October for BlackMattersUS that took place in tandem with a national set of protests organized by the NAACP, the ACLU, and other groups. BuzzFeed News could not immediately track down Williamson. A video hosted by the Black Matters YouTube account is titled “Stephanie Williamson at BM Charlotte protest.” James says that he no longer has Williamson’s contact information. It’s unclear whether Williamson was herself tricked into participating.

James said he didn’t find out that the group was linked to a Russian troll farm until he was contacted by reporters from RBC a few weeks ago.

But it was “angering,” James said, that “they were using black culture here in America as a springboard for a divisive tactic and strategy.”


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The troll farm was also linked to a group called Black Fist, according to RBC. Black Fist’s site says that the group teaches black communities self-defense, or as the Black Fist site put it, "organized by black for black." The website is still up, though its Facebook and Instagram accounts have been suspended. The group did not immediately respond to a BuzzFeed News request for comment sent to the email address provided on its page. Facebook also declined to comment on Black Fist’s page being taken down.

"Be ready to protect your rights," the site reads. "Let them know that Black Power Matters."

One of the trainers listed on the Black Fist website, Omowale Adewale, says he was directly contacted by what he now knows to be the troll farm to hold courses in New York City. He's been active in politics for years, his personal website says, and is also an MMA fighter. His Instagram feed is filled with posts about civil rights and his vegan lifestyle. (A fourth person, who was also listed as a trainer on the site but did not wish to be named, said that they had no connection with the group and was unaware of their listing.)

Adewale, in an interview with BuzzFeed News between personal training clients, said that he was first contacted by the man he knew as "Taylor" via his Instagram in January 2017, to teach four self-defense classes a month. Though he was initially wary, his concerns dropped once the first of the payments came through — $320 per month. Adewale, like White, described the man with whom he spoke over the phone but never met, as having "an accent from the African continent."

"I'm thinking there is a sense he wanted to do something for the community, get this aptitude for self-defense, and I'm thinking someone else is handling education somewhere else, other community issues as well," he said. "We never talked about that."

The classes weren't hugely attended when they started in March — at most, a dozen people, Adewale recalled. Sometimes nobody would show up at all. But attendance started to rise as "Taylor" began paying for Facebook ads and other promotions to get more people to show up in Queens, then in added sessions in Brooklyn, Adewale said.

Soon there were two classes a week. Adewale said he was instructed by Taylor to take pictures and video of the sessions. He never spoke with any of the other four trainers listed on the site, he says, but became suspicious again when the people paying him began having trouble with Google Wallet, insisting that he switch to using PayPal.

That, combined with the fact that the group never discussed the politics that had drawn him in, caused Adewale to be leery.

"When I started to ask questions, that's when they had somebody who wanted to train with me, so they could start their own class," Adewale said, but that person was a martial arts novice, an oddity for a self-defense class. According to Adewale, Taylor soon stopped contacting him altogether.

The classes stopped in May. But Adewale said he didn’t realize that the situation was connected to Russia until recent reports began to connect Russian efforts to sway the election through Facebook, Twitter, and — in particular — targeting black organizers.

"The whole time I thought this was something they made up at the DNC," he said about the reported Russian interference in the election. "But they didn't contact me during the election, so what I'm getting from media outlets is that they're making it seem like it's just for the election. It was in January they contacted me."

Adewale said that Google has been in touch with him since May to discuss the security of the company's products.

"I think they were using everything they could, and when they could no longer use those resources, when they were being found out, then they were shutting everything down," he said.
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Bartender !!
Black Russian, please !

Russian trolls are all over 4chan and reddit. People are just to damn gullible and hammer the bait.

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(10-19-2017, 06:42 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: Bartender !!
Black Russian, please !

Russian trolls are all over 4chan and reddit. People are just to damn gullible and hammer the bait.

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This is nothing new. We've known for a while now that Russian efforts have been going on like this. They didn't just target conservatives, they targeted everybody. They just targeted certain groups with certain things and were very selective in where and when they did it.

There are stories of people falling for stuff like this all over the place. It's not them willingly working with the Russians, or even knowing Russians were involved, but it happened often.
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I'm shocked Buzzfeed would try to mislead folks, but it sounds more like Russia was latching onto existing causes and people as a way to increase dissent; which isn't the same as those people working with Russia.

If you're a car salesman and you sell Timothy McVeigh — whom you've never met — a truck in March 1995, it's not accurate to say you worked with a terrorist.
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So far the only people working with the Russians is the clintons, Obama admin, and BLM.
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(10-19-2017, 12:05 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So far the only people working with the Russians is the clintons, Obama admin, and BLM.

Unproven, false and false. 

Good grief. 

LOL
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Undisputable, 100% proof that the GOP worked with the Russians.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/trump-associates-retweeted-fake-gop-account-run-russians-article-1.3573029


Oops, almost forgot the Ninja
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(10-19-2017, 12:55 PM)Benton Wrote: Unproven, false and false. 

Good grief. 

LOL

Obama admin/ Clinton didn’t give away uranium to Russian interests.

Russians didn’t buy advertising for BLM?
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(10-19-2017, 02:19 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Obama admin/ Clinton didn’t give away uranium to Russian interests.  

Russians didn’t buy advertising for BLM?

If Clinton did, it remains to be seen. It looks like the Clintons helped facilitate discussions... which isn't the same has loading uranium into the trunk of a shifty-eyed Russian agent's car outside of a Costco. There are multiple regulatory agencies that — if this is correct — either were failed or were involved. That's not a partisan issue. It's not an Obama issue. It's a failure by the government to do its job, although exactly why isn't clear yet.

To the other... if that's your basis:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/26/facebook-russia-trump-sanders-stein-243172
Quote:Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein was the beneficiary of at least one of the Russian-bought political ads on Facebook that federal government officials suspect were intended to influence the 2016 election.

Other advertisements paid for by shadowy Russian buyers criticized Hillary Clinton and promoted Donald Trump. Some backed Bernie Sanders and his platform even after his presidential campaign had ended, according to a person with knowledge of the ads.

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Earlier this month, Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, the Democratic vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said the 3,000 ads that Facebook has determined to have Russian links may be “the tip of the iceberg” and part of a far larger Kremlin plot to influence the 2016 election through Facebook and other social media platforms.

So if buying ads for them is the collaborative yard stick, toss in Sanders and Trump, too.

Which... I'm not. Just because someone buys an ad for a group doesn't make them tied together. It just sows seeds of dissent... which appeared to have worked pretty well judging by this forum.
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(10-19-2017, 03:49 PM)Benton Wrote: If Clinton did, it remains to be seen. It looks like the Clintons helped facilitate discussions... which isn't the same has loading uranium into the trunk of a shifty-eyed Russian agent's car outside of a Costco. There are multiple regulatory agencies that — if this is correct — either were failed or were involved. That's not a partisan issue. It's not an Obama issue. It's a failure by the government to do its job, although exactly why isn't clear yet.

To the other... if that's your basis:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/26/facebook-russia-trump-sanders-stein-243172

So if buying ads for them is the collaborative yard stick, toss in Sanders and Trump, too.

Which... I'm not. Just because someone buys an ad for a group doesn't make them tied together. It just sows seeds of dissent... which appeared to have worked pretty well judging by this forum.

Let me be clear.

1. On the uranium. Obviously she wasn’t loading it up. But the payoffs and kick backs plus the obama FBI knew and did nothing.

Clinton Foundation is dirty. Clinton’s are dirty. None of that is disputed. As far as obama admin..... he has a nice long list of actions that were pretty crazy.

2. On russia. I am only using the leftist threashold of facts when it comes to Russia. All we hear is Trump/Russia..... its funny to see its turning out to be democrats and Russians
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(10-19-2017, 10:40 AM)Benton Wrote: ...which isn't the same as those people working with Russia.

Ehhhh, someone can unwittingly be an agent of a foreign govt.....that was kind of the basis for the entire investigation of the Trump campaign.
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(10-19-2017, 06:34 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Ehhhh, someone can unwittingly be an agent of a foreign govt.....that was kind of the basis for the entire investigation of the Trump campaign.

Indeed, that was one of the things that spurred the investigation. Though most (sensible) people would agree that unwittingly being an agent shouldn't result in criminal charges. Just plenty of mockery.
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(10-19-2017, 05:09 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Let me be clear.  

1. On the uranium.   Obviously she wasn’t loading it up.  But the payoffs and kick backs plus the obama FBI knew and did nothing.  

Clinton Foundation is dirty.   Clinton’s are dirty.   None of that is disputed.   As far as obama admin.....  he has a nice long list of actions that were pretty crazy.    

2. On russia.    I am only using the leftist threashold of facts when it comes to Russia.    All we hear is Trump/Russia.....  its funny to see its turning out to be democrats and Russians

You do know that it was the Trump foundation that was forced to stop taking donations and found to have used donations for personal things and not chairty while the Clinton Foundation continues to operate, right?

Multiple people in the Trump camp had meetings with the Russians in one form or another.  Most "forgot" when filling out their security paperwork.  There is, purely in the contact sense, much more Trump to Russian link than Clinton to Russian.

However I am *sure* the GOP will have a couple (dozen) investigations into Clinton over this because...Clinton.
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(10-19-2017, 10:37 PM)GMDino Wrote: You do know that it was the Trump foundation that was forced to stop taking donations and found to have used donations for personal things and not chairty while the Clinton Foundation continues to operate, right?

Multiple people in the Trump camp had meetings with the Russians in one form or another.  Most "forgot" when filling out their security paperwork.  There is, purely in the contact sense, much more Trump to Russian link than Clinton to Russian.

However I am *sure* the GOP will have a couple (dozen) investigations into Clinton over this because...Clinton.

Ah the old .... meetings > giving away 25% of uranium.
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(10-19-2017, 10:57 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Ah the old ....  meetings > giving away 25% of uranium.

Well since you don't want to understand that Clinton didn't give away 25% of our uranium I'm trying to at least get you to understand something.
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(10-19-2017, 11:03 PM)GMDino Wrote: Well since you don't want to understand that Clinton didn't give away 25% of our uranium I'm trying to at least get you to understand something.

Just Stick to memes and gifs.
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(10-19-2017, 10:57 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Ah the old ....  meetings > giving away 25% of uranium.

(10-19-2017, 11:03 PM)GMDino Wrote: Well since you don't want to understand that Clinton didn't give away 25% of our uranium I'm trying to at least get you to understand something.

(10-19-2017, 11:34 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Just Stick to memes and gifs.

This is why they won't elect you to the board of the secret club.   Smirk
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(10-19-2017, 11:38 PM)GMDino Wrote: This is why they won't elect you to the board of the secret club.   Smirk

how can you be on the board when you are always suspended?

that would hamper any work getting done
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