More Transgenders are regretting surgery

[StLucieBengal]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/21834/more-transgenders-are-regretting-surgery-no-one-hank-berrien


So pretending these people are the opposite sex or gender isn't helping and even chopping/adding the hog isn't helping them.

It's almost like this is a mental issue ..... shocking.

Quote:More Transgenders Are Regretting Surgery, But No One Wants To Talk About It

Hank BerrienOctober 2, 2017

Ozan Kose/AFP/Getty Images
There are a number of people who have undergone so-called “gender reassignment” surgery who regret it deeply, and they are largely being ignored in the rush to pronounce such surgery a beneficent act.

Professor Miroslav Djordjevic of Belgrade, one of the world’s leading genital reconstructive surgeons, has spoken with at least a dozen men who have undergone the traumatic surgery involving removing their genitalia and now wish to reverse the procedure. According to The Telegraph, the clients in question come from all over Europe. The Telegraph explains, “Reattaching the male genitalia is a complex procedure and takes several operations over the course of a year to fully complete (at a cost of some €18,000).”

Djordjevic stated that many of these individuals have contemplated suicide.

Yet it has been alleged that Bath Spa University rejected an application for research on gender reassignment reversal because it was a subject deemed “potentially politically incorrect.”

The Telegraph reports:

James Caspian, a psychotherapist who specialises in working with transgender people, suggested the research after a conversation with Prof Djordjevic in 2014 at a London restaurant where the Serbian told him about the number of reversals he was seeing, and the lack of academic rigour on the subject. According to Caspian, the university initially approved his proposal to research “detransitioning.” He then amassed some preliminary findings that suggested a growing number of young people – particularly young women – who were transitioning their gender and then regretting it.

But after submitting the more detailed proposal to Bath Spa, Caspian discovered he had been referred to the university ethics committee which rejected it over fears of criticism that might be directed toward the university.

Caspian said the university told him, "Engaging in a potentially politically incorrect piece of research carries a risk to the university. Attacks on social media may not be confined to the researcher, but may involve the university. The posting of unpleasant material on blogs or social media may be detrimental to the reputation of the university.”

Djordjevic commented, “Definitely reversal surgery and regret in transgender persons is one of the very hot topics. Generally, we have to support all research in this field.”

One anonymous transgender person told The Guardian that if she had been counseled, she might not have gone through the process, admitting, “Had that been the case for me, I might not have transitioned. I was so focused on trying to change my gender, I never stopped to think about what gender meant.”

Djordjevic is afraid that the current World Professional Association for Transgender Health guidelines forbidding “gender reassignment” surgery to anyone under 18 could be altered to include minors. He said he would not perform the surgery, adding, “I’m afraid what will happen five to 10 years later with this person. It is more than about surgery; it’s an issue of human rights. I could not accept them as a patient because I’d be afraid what would happen to their brain and mind.”

[*Nately120*]

They can't possibly regret it any more than I regret shacking up with that nutty broad in 2013.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-02-2017, 10:53 PM)Nately120 Wrote: They can't possibly regret it any more than I regret shacking up with that nutty broad in 2013.

You sure it Was it a broad?

[*Nately120*]

(10-02-2017, 11:05 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You sure it Was it a broad?

Yes, unlike you I'm not fascinated with fake penises.

[Bengalzona]

(10-02-2017, 10:53 PM)Nately120 Wrote: They can't possibly regret it any more than I regret shacking up with that nutty broad in 2013.

You were with her in 2013?

That must have been right after I finally got rid of her.

[*Nately120*]

(10-02-2017, 11:11 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: You were with her in 2013?

That must have been right after I finally got rid of her.

Ah, so you are that drug addicted d-bag of an ex of hers?  I knew it.  Still haulin' junk for your ol' man?

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-02-2017, 10:16 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/21834/more-transgenders-are-regretting-surgery-no-one-hank-berrien


So pretending these people are the opposite sex or gender isn't helping and even chopping/adding the hog isn't helping them.

It's almost like this is a mental issue ..... shocking.

"Professor Miroslav Djordjevic of Belgrade, one of the world’s leading genital reconstructive surgeons, has spoken with at least a dozen men who have undergone the traumatic surgery involving removing their genitalia and now wish to reverse the procedure."

Wow, at least a dozen.

[*Nately120*]

(10-02-2017, 11:16 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: "Professor Miroslav Djordjevic of Belgrade, one of the world’s leading genital reconstructive surgeons, has spoken with at least a dozen men who have undergone the traumatic surgery involving removing their genitalia and now wish to reverse the procedure."

Wow, at least a dozen.

Yeah, I didn't feel like getting into the actual article itself because it's not a study, it doesn't have a sample size that can yield applicable data, and as you pointed out the guy is one of the world's leading surgeons in this field and has a dozen cases of regret.

With that said, I'm sure the PC Patrol puts pressure on the suppression of those who lament the surgery, but to conclude it's a mental illness or fad based upon this article is flawed.  Also, people regret stuff all the time.  The grass is always greener or in this case, the penis is always penisier.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-02-2017, 11:21 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Yeah, I didn't feel like getting into the actual article itself because it's not a study, it doesn't have a sample size that can yield applicable data, and as you pointed out the guy is one of the world's leading surgeons in this field and has a dozen cases of regret.

With that said, I'm sure the PC Patrol puts pressure on the suppression of those who lament the surgery, but to conclude it's a mental illness or fad based upon this article is flawed.  Also, people regret stuff all the time.  The grass is always greener or in this case, the penis is always penisier.

The Science has been In on mental disorder. Also this article highlights the simple fact that "transitioning" does nothing to cure their issues.

[Bengalzona]

(10-02-2017, 11:12 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ah, so you are that drug addicted d-bag of an ex of hers?  I knew it.  Still haulin' junk for your ol' man?

And you must be the meth-dealer with all the STD's! Nice to meet ya, bro.... and thanks!!!

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-02-2017, 11:54 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The Science has been In on mental disorder. Also this article highlights the simple fact that "transitioning" does nothing to cure their issues.

Insulin doesn't cure diabetes.

[Vas Deferens]

(10-03-2017, 01:07 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Insulin doesn't cure diabetes.

Vaccinations cause autism and we should privatize fire stations. All good science for those with tiny problems in a big world crying out for attention because their wives refuse or are unable to listen.

[*Nately120*]

(10-02-2017, 11:54 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The Science has been In on mental disorder.    Also this article highlights the simple fact that "transitioning" does nothing to cure their issues.

You can't draw facts from a sample size of roughly 12 people, particularly when the article doesn't give the number of transitions this doctor has performed for people who aren't regretting it.  I'm not saying you are wrong in your assertions, but using this article as a means to prove you are right is sloppy and biased fake-science.

There are no facts to be had here.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-03-2017, 07:04 AM)Nately120 Wrote: You can't draw facts from a sample size of roughly 12 people, particularly when the article doesn't give the number of transitions this doctor has performed for people who aren't regretting it.  I'm not saying you are wrong in your assertions, but using this article as a means to prove you are right is sloppy and biased fake-science.

There are no facts to be had here.

I am not using this article to prove anything other than more news that it doesn't help these people if they get the chop or we play along with their dillusions.

[*Nately120*]

(10-03-2017, 08:27 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I am not using this article to prove anything other than more news that it doesn't help these people if they get the chop or we play along with their dillusions.

Sounds like you are drawing conclusions, to me.

[GMDino]

(10-03-2017, 08:55 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Sounds like you are drawing conclusions, to me.

[BmorePat87]

So the Daily Wire, known for using Facebook posts and college newspaper op-eds to form narratives, is using anecdotal evidence and not a study to make claims. I'm shocked. I really am.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-03-2017, 08:55 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Sounds like you are drawing conclusions, to me.

This is just reinforcing facts already on the table. Facts through lengthy studies.

But you are entitled to think whatever you wish. Maybe the people who think they are tinker bell are actually tinker bells.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-03-2017, 09:12 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: So the Daily Wire, known for using Facebook posts and college newspaper op-eds to form narratives, is using anecdotal evidence and not a study to make claims. I'm shocked. I really am.

Social media shares? You mean just spreading their articles....... it's how any business uses social media.

[Belsnickel]

(10-03-2017, 09:26 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Social media shares? You mean just spreading their articles....... it's how any business uses social media.

He's talking about the Daily Wire using Facebook posts from others to form their narrative, often to the detriment of the organization.