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(01-30-2023, 01:36 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: I won’t be watching their staged event but diehards of a couple teams aren’t going to make a difference. This is the one game where the casual/almost never watch viewers will all tune in not knowing or giving a crap about who’s in the game or how they got there.
NFL will be shady until Goodell is out
Last year was the first one I watched in over 30 years. May be another 30 before I watch another one.
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(01-30-2023, 04:19 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The Ossai hit is a personal foul 100 out of 100 times. Nothing ticky tack about it.
My issue is that Burrow was getting hit later than that and the refs looked the other way. You have to call the game fairly, whether you throw tons of flags or keep them in your pockets.
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(01-30-2023, 01:56 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: My issue is that Burrow was getting hit later than that and the refs looked the other way. You have to call the game fairly, whether you throw tons of flags or keep them in your pockets.
You all should be asking why they looked the other way. WHY?
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(01-30-2023, 08:39 AM)Destro Wrote: Bengals fans looking more pathetic than the O-line. State of things now. Can’t lose anything without it being rigged. Bengals could have done one of a dozen things and had the game but did not. Bengals pooped the bed, led by poor oline play, poor play calls and bad play. If this was the Saints vs Bears, many would not be squealing like they are.
I said before, this is my favorite Bengals team. I wanted them in the Super Bowl and winning it. It’s easy to blame the refs for everything instead of a Bengal. Prefer factual reasons. We beat ourselves in all phases.
Are you reading the statements by lots of non bengals fans commentators about the awful and totally inconsistent officiating?
Did you actually watch the fourth quarter.
I don’t see how anyone can dispute that we lost game because our o line was dominated and because of a string of really bad calls by refs in fourth quarter.
Differences of opinion can and should be respected but what I don’t like on this board is sanctimonious statements denrgrating those with opinions different from the poster.
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(01-30-2023, 01:56 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: My issue is that Burrow was getting hit later than that and the refs looked the other way. You have to call the game fairly, whether you throw tons of flags or keep them in your pockets.
Agreed. It's like calling that PI on Apple, when even whats his face on tv, the ref guy they talk to, basically disagreed with the call which he rarely ever does. But then on the biggest punt of the game, blatent block in the back near punt returner, nothing called. I rarely go after the refs, but other than Ossai's penalty at the end, it just seemed blatantly obvious it was one-sided in what was being called and not.
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(01-30-2023, 02:03 PM)Science Friction Wrote: You all should be asking why they looked the other way. WHY?
Mahomes being in the SB again makes a nice story line.
Andy Reid vs his former team makes a nice story line.
The Kelce bros face off. Nice story.
Best QB vs hottest team is nice, too.
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(01-30-2023, 08:54 AM)Destro Wrote: And plenty of people, including Bengals fans, are wrong. Bengals played poorly. Clearly. They played the number one seed in the NFL. Don’t think both things can happen at the same time. Played poorly against the Ravens of all people, too.
Without a late hit (clear foul) it would be a 60 yarder. If the game was rigged, that’s cutting it pretty close.
"Rigged" vs "trying to influence". Two completely different things. I have never said or thought about the NFL being either until the crazy shit the NFL pulled with the Bills game and now the officiating in this game.
I completely agree with you that we beat ourselves, but sorry bro, something was very off with the refs.
I get that part time refs are not perfect and will miss stuff here and there in real time, but this was just straight up, repeatedly not calling blatantly obvious stuff that was right in front of them.
I saw the Burrow hit and immediately yelled flag. No flag. Choke hold on key play no flag. Block in the back on key play, no flag. Sorry man, too many blatant no calls to be anything other than the refs trying to give KC the win.
We can agree on one thing though, the Bengals still could have won the game with better play all the way around. We had 2 chances to win at the end and farmed it both times. Then we farmed it on D with a legit PF by #58.
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(01-30-2023, 12:43 AM)michaelsean Wrote: The offense still had the ball with two minutes left. Special teams still gave up a 25 yard return. Defense still had a penalty that put them in FG range.
x2
AND
all we needed was a dang FG
No one got open and the OLine failed …. Again
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(01-30-2023, 02:16 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: "Rigged" vs "trying to influence". Two completely different things. I have never said or thought about the NFL being either until the crazy shit the NFL pulled with the Bills game and now the officiating in this game.
I completely agree with you that we beat ourselves, but sorry bro, something was very off with the refs.
I get that part time refs are not perfect and will miss stuff here and there in real time, but this was just straight up, repeatedly not calling blatantly obvious stuff that was right in front of them.
I saw the Burrow hit and immediately yelled flag. No flag. Choke hold on key play no flag. Block in the back on key play, no flag. Sorry man, too many blatant no calls to be anything other than the refs trying to give KC the win.
We can agree on one thing though, the Bengals still could have won the game with better play all the way around. We had 2 chances to win at the end and farmed it both times. Then we farmed it on D with a legit PF by #58.
Thank you. Can't understand why oher intelligent people can't seem to discern the difference. Games are not scripted, or "rigged," per se but absolutely influenced by the league. Zero question about that. You saw it being done last night.
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(01-30-2023, 02:39 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Coincidence? Lot's of "bad" officiating the last couple of years.
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-agreements-with-four-approved-sportsbook-operators
What do you think? Of course it's not a coincidence. Money drives Goodell and this league.
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Yes the Bengals had their chances, but it looks really bad after the calls/missed calls against the Bengals to send the "Star Spokesman" for State Farm to play in the Super Bowl being held at a stadium bearing their name!?!? People joke about the refs being paid off, how much you think State Farm would pay for that type of publicity. Especially in the event that KC wins, i can hear the State Farm commercials already!
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(01-30-2023, 02:49 PM)kissfan4 Wrote: Yes the Bengals had their chances, but it looks really bad after the calls/missed calls against the Bengals to send the "Star Spokesman" for State Farm to play in the Super Bowl being held at a stadium bearing their name!?!? People joke about the refs being paid off, how much you think State Farm would pay for that type of publicity. Especially in the event that KC wins, i can hear the State Farm commercials already!
I cancelled my State Farm car insurance at 9:30 this morning.
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(01-30-2023, 12:58 PM)Science Friction Wrote: Ever wonder why the league doesn't have full-time refs? Think they don't have the money? They want insurance salesmen and pig farmers doing this task for a reason.
You can't have unknowns if you don't know what the result of their action will be. They could have just as easily called a poor game against KC at the end and their "plan/want/desired outcome" is null.
You just killed your own argument. Full time refs are obviously easier to control in a desired outcome.
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Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.
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Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.
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(01-30-2023, 01:31 AM)Science Friction Wrote: Where are all of the " the NFL is influenced/rigged " deniers hiding?
They're waiting until our memories start to fade and we can't list every horrible call from this game. By the time TC rolls around, they'll be acting like this was a fairly called game. 
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(01-30-2023, 01:15 AM)Trademark Wrote: The NFL is rigged. Andy Reid faces his former team, at State Farm Stadium. (Mahomes does state farm commercials) and the Kelce brothers face each other. No point in supporting a rigged league
Would you be saying this if the Bengals had won and joined a small number of teams to make it back to the SB after losing one?
Or, would that rigging please you?
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I’ve said for years the nfl needs full time officials like every other major pro team sport.
How are officials held accountable
Do they ever review game film with a superior who calls them out on bad calls or completely inconsistent calls.
Do they get graded.
Refs definitely changed this game last night just as much as our o line being dominated changed the game.
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(01-30-2023, 12:52 AM)sloSTI Wrote: I'm seeing comments all over FB from fans of other teams that's it's rigged not Bengals fans
You obviously werent in the game thread yesterday, close to 80% were screaming rigged through most of the 4th quarter... i'd say thats a good indication on how your average Bengal fans were feeling
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