NY Post calls out Biden lies in CNN interview

[Luvnit2]

Many liberals say Trump can't be trusted and a liar. Yet, Biden lies every time he speaks. His biggest whopper lately was saying inflation was 9% when he took office, yet it was 1.4%. A huge difference and spike in inflation started by Bidenomics. The 1.4% was the highest inflation rate for Trump's 4 years, while Biden's inflation got much worse before it got even close to the Trump 1.4%.

Biden said on the interview people have money and should not complain. He and his policies are a joke. His problem is he can't lie his way out of voter's financial misery under his leadership and policies.

CNN and others cut away from Trump comments using he is lying as the excuse. Yet, they cover Biden in full. In the end, maybe is good for us all, 15 lies in 17 minutes may be a record for a sitting POTUS.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/ny-post-editorial-board-scolds-biden-telling-lie-minute-during-fantasyland-cnn-interview

NY Post editorial board scolds Biden for telling ‘a lie a minute’ during ‘fantasyland’ CNN interview
‘In a brief 17 minutes, Biden told 15 lies,’ editorial board claims

President Biden told a staggering number of whoppers when he spoke to CNN’s Erin Burnett this week, the New York Post wrote in a savage editorial this week.

The Post’s editorial board accused Biden of telling a "lie a minute" in an editorial featuring an image of the president morphing into Pinocchio.  

The White House has come under pressure from news outlets, specifically The New York Times, for a lack of sit-down interviews with journalists willing to ask tough questions.


"Wednesday’s chat with CNN’s Erin Burnett shows why. In a brief 17 minutes, Biden told 15 lies — nearly a lie a minute," the editorial board wrote. "From whoppers about the economy to prevarications on Israel, Biden spun a fantasyland of a presidency that voters know is false."

CNN Biden interview
President Biden told a "lie a minute" when he spoke to CNN’s Erin Burnett this week, according to the editorial board of the New York Post.  (Screenshot/CNN)

The Post then listed the 15 alleged lies, starting with Biden’s claim that he created over 15 million jobs as president.

"Biden’s favorite falsehood, told over and over and over again no matter how many fact-checks call him out," the editorial board wrote.

"He took office at the tail end of a pandemic that blew a hole in the economy, when lockdown policies wholeheartedly endorsed by Democrats took people out of the office and onto COVID stimulus checks," it continued. "He ‘created’ nothing — after the introduction of the vaccine, people returned to the workforce. If anything, Biden’s policies slowed the recovery — it took until July 2022 for the US economy to regain all the jobs lost due to the pandemic."

The Post’s editorial board accused Biden of lying about former President Trump losing more jobs than he created, which it called a "corollary lie."
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Trump didn’t ‘lose’ jobs; he was president during a global pandemic. And liberals were thrilled to put people on government checks and shut down the world during COVID. They cannot argue that the job market would have been any different in 2020 under a Democrat," the editorial board wrote.

Next up was Biden’s claim that Trump would make Medicare more expensive. As the Post pointed out, the presumptive GOP nominee has actually said the opposite.

The Post also accused Biden of lying about the federal tax rate for billionaires, the economy, polling data, "corporate greed" impacting costs, how much money Americans have to spend, taxes, and even Israel. But the "lie of the night" was when the president claimed inflation was 9% when he took office, according to the Post.

"Biden continues to pretend that the US was in terrible shape when he took office, when it was already on the rebound — thanks to Trump’s Warp Speed project that vaccinated people quickly against COVID. Inflation was a measly 1.4% in January 2021. Then Biden went on a first-year drunken-sailor spending spree, and inflation skyrocketed," the editorial board wrote.[/b]

[SunsetBengal]

Those "15 Million" jobs, were mostly people returning to work post pandemic, and most jobs "added" are junk jobs, not ones that you can make an actual living on.

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(05-10-2024, 07:06 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Those "15 Million" jobs, were mostly people returning to work post pandemic, and most jobs "added" are junk jobs, not ones that you can make an actual living on.

If only there was a labor force that could be exploited with these "junk jobs"

[SunsetBengal]

(05-10-2024, 07:13 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: If only there was a labor force that could be exploited with these "junk jobs"

Sí, corté la hierba!

[*pally*]

So the Rupert Murdoch newspaper is claiming that Biden's administration didn't create the jobs because Trump didn't lose them?

that is among the most convoluted pieces of BS the MAGA world has come up with.

There were ZERO guarantees that any job would return after the COVID losses. In fact, so many small businesses failed that a lot of those jobs didn't return. Many other businesses downsized or went to remote working so businesses dependent on those workers failed as well.

"Junk" jobs that people can't make a living at? Maybe that's because business owners exploit their workers and fail to pay a living wage.

But the logic is funny. No jobs were created under Biden but even if they were they weren't real jobs. But hey, guess what... those are jobs that need to be done. Where would the economy be without those so-called "junk" jobs

It is like Trump claiming the stock market is up only because he is ahead of the polls and saying the economy will crash if he isn't elected. Shall we remind him the stock market has gone upward throughout Biden's presidency and the economy didn't crash when Trump lost in 2020?

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(05-10-2024, 07:18 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Sí, corté la hierba!

Is that how you say, "here are the keys to the garage, wash the corvette?"

or "Set the mower blades to one on the Mar-a-Lago greens?"

[Goalpost]

I would say Pfizer created more job growth than Biden. The 1st vaccine shot occurred Dec 2020. Biden was sworn in Jan 2021. The return to jobs and normalcy occurred because of the vaccine.

Looking back..here are the industries that were significantly affected by the virus.

https://www.aarp.org/work/job-search/job-losses-during-covid/

[masonbengals fan]

15 lies in 17 minutes may have just put Trump in 2nd place when it comes to lying.

Looking like CNN may just have to censor Biden too.

[Belsnickel]

(05-11-2024, 09:26 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: 15 lies in 17 minutes may have just put Trump in 2nd place when it comes to lying.

Looking like CNN may just have to censor Biden too.

I don't know, I remember one article that counted 30,573 falsehoods uttered publicly in his four years in office, or an average of about 21/day. So if, on average, he was telling more than one falsehood per waking hour, and not everything he said was made public like that, I am betting he had some more dense lying streaks than 15 in 17 minutes.

[masonbengals fan]

It would be interesting to see the totals of both presidents as far as lies & distortions.

It would be quite revealing.

No way in today's world we could ever trust a news source for accurate info though.

[StoneTheCrow]

(05-11-2024, 10:44 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: It would be interesting to see the totals of both presidents as far as lies & distortions.

It would be quite revealing.

No way in today's world we could ever trust a news source for accurate info though.

I recall fact checkers closing up shop as soon as Biden’s ass hit the chair. Nothing to report here!

[Mike M (the other one)]

(05-10-2024, 07:33 PM)pally Wrote: So the Rupert Murdoch newspaper is claiming that Biden's administration didn't create the jobs because Trump didn't lose them?

that is among the most convoluted pieces of BS the MAGA world has come up with.

There were ZERO guarantees that any job would return after the COVID losses.  In fact, so many small businesses failed that a lot of those jobs didn't return.  Many other businesses downsized or went to remote working so businesses dependent on those workers failed as well.

"Junk" jobs that people can't make a living at?  Maybe that's because business owners exploit their workers and fail to pay a living wage.

But the logic is funny.  No jobs were created under Biden but even if they were they weren't real jobs.  But hey, guess what... those are jobs that need to be done.  Where would the economy be without those so-called "junk" jobs

It is like Trump claiming the stock market is up only because he is ahead of the polls and saying the economy will crash if he isn't elected.  Shall we remind him the stock market has gone upward throughout Biden's presidency and the economy didn't crash when Trump lost in 2020?

Whaddafuqe? Biden wishes the SM fared Half as good under his watch as it did on Trumps. So for SM, Trump has my vote, cause I'd like to have the option to retire early.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average has climbed 21.9% under Biden, whereas it grew 44.6% for Trump. The Nasdaq composite index is up 13.8% under Biden and was up 62% for Trump.


https://www.axios.com/2024/01/01/biden-trump-stock-market-performance

[GMDino]

(05-11-2024, 12:47 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Whaddafuqe? Biden wishes the SM fared Half as good under his watch as it did on Trumps. So for SM, Trump has my vote, cause I'd like to have the option to retire early.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average has climbed 21.9% under Biden, whereas it grew 44.6% for Trump. The Nasdaq composite index is up 13.8% under Biden and was up 62% for Trump.


https://www.axios.com/2024/01/01/biden-trump-stock-market-performance

Pally has a point that you skipped though:

Trump claims when the market goes up it is because of him...even when he's not in office.  He also claimed there would a crash if Biden was elected...and there was not.

She never said in what you quoted that it went up more under Biden.

I'll add, as a side note, nothing goes up for ever. [Citation: Bernie Madoff]

[*pally*]

those so-called lies are a rather loose interpretation of what a lie is.

Let's just start by saying if over 10 million people suddenly became unemployed in the last 4 years regardless of the reason the NY Post would have been screaming about the Biden job losses

And how about calling "you can't only love your country when you win" a lie when in fact it is an opinion

and claiming him saying other world leaders are concerned about Democracy if he loses is a lie. How in the hell do they know? Based on interviews with many world leaders, they are concerned.

they called saying Trump is calling for tariff increases a lie because Biden also has proposed more targetted tariff increases

Warning Netanayhu about not repeating the US mistakes in Iraq and Afghanistan is called a lie because Biden voted for the Iraq invasion

Seriously, the whole article is a stretch

[GMDino]

I'm sure the Trump backers won't believe this...they don't think he lies at all and if he does HE is "just being a politician".  Unless the need is for them to say he should be in office "because he isn't a politician."

This was just first 100 days.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/biden-fact-checker-100-days/

Quote:Fact Checker
Analysis
The false and
misleading claims
President Biden
made during his first
100 days in office


[color=var(--color-ui-offblack)]“Under the previous administration, the federal government contracts awarded directly to foreign companies went up 30 percent. That is going to change on our watch.”
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-dark)]Jan. 25[/color]

[color=var(--color-ui-offblack)]“When I took office three weeks ago, America didn’t have a plan or enough supplies to vaccinate most of the country.”[/color]
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-dark)]Feb. 11[/color]

[color=var(--color-ui-offblack)]“What I’m worried about is how un-American this whole initiative is. It’s sick. It’s sick … deciding that you’re going to end voting at five o’clock when working people are just getting off work.”[/color]
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-dark)]March 25[/color]

[color=var(--color-ui-offblack)]“I have the list of exactly how many have died: 547,296 Americans dead from the virus — more than all the people killed in World War One, World War Two, the Vietnam War, 9/11. 547,296 Americans.”[/color]
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-dark)]March 31[/color]

[color=var(--color-ui-offblack)]“Independent analysis shows that if we pass this plan, the economy will create 19 million jobs — good jobs, blue-collar jobs, jobs that pay well.”[/color]
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-dark)]April 2[/color]

[color=var(--color-ui-offblack)]“Most people don’t know, you walk into a store and you buy a gun, you have a background check. But you go to a gun show, you can buy whatever you want and no background check.”[/color]
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-dark)]April 8[/color][/color]
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-dark)]By 
Glenn Kessler, 
Adrian Blanco and 
Tyler Remmel
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-dark)]Updated April 30 at 12:43 p.m.Originally published April 26, 2021[/color][/color]

After four years of a presidency that swamped Americans with a gusher of false and misleading claims, the Joe Biden era has offered a return to a more typical pattern when it comes to a commander in chief and his relationship with the facts — one that features frequent spin and obfuscation or exaggeration, with the occasional canard.
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-darkest)]Jump to the full database[/color]


Among the most notable falsehoods of President Biden’s first 100 days in office was his claim — which he made three times — that Georgia’s controversial Republican-backed election law had shortened voting hours.

The claim was one of two uttered by Biden to earn the Fact Checker’s “Four Pinocchio” rating, reserved for whoppers — the other being his wildly off-base statement, borrowed from the campaign, that federal contracts “awarded directly to foreign companies” rose by 30 percent under President Donald Trump.

More typical for Biden, when he uttered a false statement, was some subtle truth-stretching.

He spun that if Congress passed his infrastructure plan, “the economy” would create 19 million additional jobs; only 2.7 million of those jobs could be attributed to the proposal itself. He asserted that as vice president he helped craft an $800 billion strategy to help Central America; it was $750 million.
Through April 29, his 100th day, Biden has made 78 false or misleading statements, according to a Washington Post Fact Checker analysis of every speech, interview, tweet or public statement made by the president. That compares to 511 such statements in Trump’s first 100 days.


In compiling the database of Biden’s claims in his first 100 days, The Fact Checker used the same methodology as the Trump database that counted more than 30,000 claims over the course of Trump’s presidency. Any statement that would merit at least Two Pinocchios — essentially “half true” — was included. Any claim that was repeated was also included, though unlike Trump, Biden generally does not repeat his false claims if they have been fact-checked as false.


Biden’s relatively limited number of falsehoods is a function, at least in part, of the fact that his public appearances consist mostly of prepared texts vetted by his staff. He devotes little time to social media, in contrast to his Twitter-obsessed predecessor, and rarely faces reporters or speaks off the cuff.

His press secretary, Jen Psaki, holds lengthy daily briefings with the media, and Cabinet secretaries also speak on Biden’s behalf.

All told, through April 29, according to a count by Factba.se, Biden spoke about 30 percent fewer words than Trump and tweeted 65 percent fewer times. He gave only seven interviews, compared to 22 for Trump, and held only two news conferences, compared to nine for Trump.

Almost 100 of Trump’s claims came from tweets; only one of Biden’s tweets was deemed false or misleading. Trump made 56 suspect statements at campaign rallies; Biden held only one campaign rally — on his 100th day — where he made one suspect claim.

[Luvnit2]

(05-10-2024, 07:06 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Those "15 Million" jobs, were mostly people returning to work post pandemic, and most jobs "added" are junk jobs, not ones that you can make an actual living on.

Add in all of the illegal immigrants' jobs and the jobs report also sucks for voters.

[Luvnit2]

(05-11-2024, 12:40 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: I recall fact checkers closing up shop as soon as Biden’s ass hit the chair. Nothing to report here!

I have yet to see CNN, WAPO or MSNBC fact check Biden during the state of the union address or any campaign speech. Yet, they did Trump. Why only Trump?

You are spot on.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(05-11-2024, 01:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: Pally has a point that you skipped though:

Trump claims when the market goes up it is because of him...even when he's not in office.  He also claimed there would a crash if Biden was elected...and there was not.

She never said in what you quoted that it went up more under Biden.

I'll add, as a side note, nothing goes up for ever. [Citation: Bernie Madoff]

Ok, the SM started trending up right before Trump became POTUS, and then continued to climb once he was in office. 


Right now, it's trending up again and most likely because Trump is leading in the polls. 

Regardless of what either of you think, it does look forward. Many investors are already anticipating the SM to sky rocket if Trump wins. 

What Trump is saying is fairly true. But it won't be a bloodbath if Biden wins, it will just turtle along for another 4 years. Do you not pay attention to your investments? 

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(05-11-2024, 12:40 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: I recall fact checkers closing up shop as soon as Biden’s ass hit the chair. Nothing to report here!

The bit some people do no think about, when comparing perceived lies, stutters, and gobbldygook, when discussing the two.

Trump is on social media, camera, and anything that is sent out to more than 2 people most of the day. 

Biden is in the public eye maybe an hour or two a week, yet flubs up a similar amount, if not more. 

It would be interesting to what their error, lie, silliness rates are per hour of media put out.

For a fair comparison,

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(05-11-2024, 04:04 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I have yet to see CNN, WAPO or MSNBC fact check Biden during the state of the union address or any campaign speech. Yet, they did Trump. Why only Trump?

You are spot on.

If I am remembering correctly, I'll have to see if I can find the NPR source, they said they could not due to a recent ethics training, where they learned it would be a conflict of interest.