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***Official 2017 NFL Draft Day Thread***
(04-29-2017, 04:43 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: In short he's a project. No doubt lobbied for by our favorite genius Paul Alexander  Whatever And OL-men with short arms never work out. PA saw potential in Dennis Roland, Nate Livings and Eric Ghiacuc too...

I'm going out in a limb here and saying we will be throwing Dielman's name in that group as well. Not pleased with this pick at all. But I guess he's not Bodine so... He can't be much worse. 

Literally every pick at this point in the draft has perceived deficiencies. Go back and look at guys who worked out and many of those Gus based on scouting reports fans would hate. It's not up to us and reading reports its what the coaching staffs see they can work with.
At this point the Cincinnati Bengals should probably just drop offensive lineman and hope one can makes the practice squad.
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(04-29-2017, 04:35 PM)kevin Wrote: FINALLY......J.J. Dielman of Utah who ESPN says center and CBS Sports says tackle so we can add in guard probably....6-5, 300 lbs....At least a 5th round pick. Had they waited until rounds 6 or 7, forget about it....I think IIoka was a pick 5, so you can find talent in 5.....wasn't McCarron a 5.....I want to see ESPN highlights of him.  ...A MUST NEED PICK....

Yes, you can find talent in the 5th round.  A man called Tom Brady went in the SIXTH round.  But, Kevin, Mr. Dielman is no Tom Brady.  I think we could have found better value in the 5th round than this guy.
(04-29-2017, 04:39 PM)kentuck1163 Wrote: NFL.com projected him as a 7th rounder.  Maybe they see potential in the guy.  Doesn't seem like the kind of guy who can help in the short term.

CBS projected him as a 4th rounder so seems he was a guy that people may have been split on.
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(04-29-2017, 04:47 PM)Au165 Wrote: Literally every pick at this point in the draft has perceived deficiencies. Go back and look at guys who worked out and many of those Gus based on scouting reports fans would hate. It's not up to us and reading reports its what the coaching staffs see they can work with.

I know. When it comes to the OL, that's what worries me.

I know it's a crapshoot at this point but he's widely seen as a 7th round prospect. Wasted pick here
(04-29-2017, 04:47 PM)kentuck1163 Wrote: Yes, you can find talent in the 5th round.  A man called Tom Brady went in the SIXTH round.  But, Kevin, Mr. Dielman is no Tom Brady.  I think we could have found better value in the 5th round than this guy.

What??? That's crazy talk! There is no value outside of olineman! Just ask Kevin.

(04-29-2017, 04:47 PM)Au165 Wrote: Literally every pick at this point in the draft has perceived deficiencies. Go back and look at guys who worked out and many of those Gus based on scouting reports fans would hate. It's not up to us and reading reports its what the coaching staffs see they can work with.

You are not a good judge of talent and this draft will prove it.  
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(04-29-2017, 04:48 PM)BobJones4980 Wrote: CBS projected him as a 4th rounder so seems he was a guy that people may have been split on.

He has been injured and has durability Concerns
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(04-29-2017, 04:47 PM)Au165 Wrote:
Literally every pick at this point in the draft has perceived deficiencies
. Go back and look at guys who worked out and many of those Gus based on scouting reports fans would hate. It's not up to us and reading reports its what the coaching staffs see they can work with.

I agree.  At the end of the day we are talking about 5th-7th rounders, so most, if not all will be a work-in-progress type no matter what.
(04-29-2017, 04:48 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: I know. When it comes to the OL, that's what worries me.

I know it's a crapshoot at this point but he's widely seen as a 7th round prospect. Wasted pick here

Not me the Bengals consistently have one of the top offensive lines in football...
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(04-29-2017, 04:48 PM)BobJones4980 Wrote: CBS projected him as a 4th rounder so seems he was a guy that people may have been split on.

All that statement does is make me think we should ignore CBS' projections.  4th round for Dielman is just crazy!!!  I think 7th round or FA makes some sense.
Browns going Brantley.
Some of the methods these teams are going through to announce their picks are ripe for savage parody.
you guys are crying about a 5th round comp pick. shame
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(04-29-2017, 04:52 PM)Synric Wrote: Not me the Bengals consistently have one of the top offensive lines in football...

Without Whitworth and Zietler that's bound to change 
(04-29-2017, 04:50 PM)Okeana Wrote: You are not a good judge of talent and this draft will prove it.  

Not sure how that statement has to do with judge of talent, but cool story.
(04-29-2017, 04:52 PM)kentuck1163 Wrote: All that statement does is make me think we should ignore CBS' projections.  4th round for Dielman is just crazy!!!  I think 7th round or FA makes some sense.

Why? Because you say so? CBS has been pretty solid over the years so I'll put more stock in there opinion versus us board members who watched a couple games.
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(04-29-2017, 04:52 PM)Synric Wrote: Not me the Bengals consistently have one of the top offensive lines in football...

In pass protection they have been decent, in the run game? Not so much.

I think we should be better this year though in the run game if Andre and Boling can stay healthy.

Both of these guys are good run blockers.
(04-29-2017, 04:53 PM)Okeana Wrote: you guys are crying about a 5th round comp pick.  shame

We're Bengals fans, it's kinda our thing.




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