Poll Biden is too old to be next POTUS

[Luvnit2]

I have stated I don't see Biden not being tossed aside by his own party. Recent polls show Trump is leading Biden by 2% to 5%. But bigger issue is 77% say Biden is too old to be running in 2024. The Biden age issue is not fixable, he is a lame duck President going forward and unelectable in 2024.

Trump gets indicted, Democrats decide t try and shame him with a mug shot and black voter approval goes from 8% he gathered in 2020 to 20% in 2023 after this latest indictment.

Today trial date was set for a trial on March 4, one day prior to Super Tuesday. Anyone thinking this is about justice and not about politics needs to get their head out of the sand. Now we are hearing states like Michigan will look into taking Trump off the ballot using the 14th amendment. Why do the Democrats want to persecute Trump versus beat him at the ballot box?

I loved watching black voters turn to Trump, who they now feel is being persecuted the same way black males were prosecuted. The Democrats did not see that coming.

[Arturo Bandini]

Could be a point if the another one wasn't just as old as him ...

You better ask yourself this question between the nominees ... Is this the best we have ?

[GMDino]

(08-28-2023, 11:22 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I have stated I don't see Biden not being tossed aside by his own party. Recent polls show Trump is leading Biden by 2%  to 5%. But bigger issue is 77% say Biden is too old to be running in 2024. The Biden age issue is not fixable, he is a lame duck President going forward and unelectable in 2024.

What is your upper age for running for office?

(08-28-2023, 11:22 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Trump gets indicted, Democrats decide t try and shame him with a mug shot and black voter approval goes from 8% he gathered in 2020 to 20% in 2023 after this latest indictment.

I'm going to hope you are citing some source with that and not just assuming that the black voter is more inclined to approve of 1135809 because he has a mug shot.

Secondly, 1135809 used the mugshot to raise money...not to attract more voters...himself. The "Democrats" did nothing to try and "shame" him that he wasn't doing himself.

(08-28-2023, 11:22 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Today trial date was set for a trial on March 4, one day prior to Super Tuesday. Anyone thinking this is about justice and not about politics needs to get their head out of the sand. Now we are hearing states like Michigan will look into taking Trump off the ballot using the 14th amendment. Why do the Democrats want to persecute Trump versus beat him at the ballot box?

Is it possible, at all, that states might be looking at removing 1135809 because of all the crimes? They've already beat him at the ballot box.

Twice.

(08-28-2023, 11:22 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I loved watching black voters turn to Trump, who they now feel is being persecuted the same way black males were prosecuted. The Democrats did not see that coming.

Again I'm going to assume this has some source versus just what you believe would move black voters to back 1135809. Please provide that.

[Luvnit2]

(08-29-2023, 04:24 AM)Arturo Bandini Wrote: Could be a point if the another one wasn't just as old as him ...

You better ask yourself this question between the nominees ... Is this the best we have ?

One (Trump) has the energetic youth of a 50 year old. Biden has the energy of a 95 year old. One has proven he can fix the economy in Trump.

Trump's policies helped the black and hispanic voters, helped women voters by raising their wages while running great inflation numbers (until Covid hit).

Biden is on track to run the worst inflation numbers in history for a 4 year POTUS. Biden has lost support of a key voting block. 

Trump is a great candidate, Biden is simply lost and old.

[Luvnit2]

(08-29-2023, 09:03 AM)GMDino Wrote: What is your upper age for running for office?




I'm going to hope you are citing some source with that and not just assuming that the black voter is more inclined to approve of 1135809 because he has a mug shot.

Secondly, 1135809 used the mugshot to raise money...not to attract more voters...himself.  The "Democrats" did nothing to try and "shame" him that he wasn't doing himself.


Is it possible, at all, that states might be looking at removing 1135809 because of all the crimes?  They've already beat him at the ballot box.  

Twice.


Again I'm going to assume this has some source versus just what you believe would move black voters to back 1135809.  Please provide that.

Since you don't know how to use google or don't want to know facts. Here you go.

https://www.axios.com/2023/08/06/biden-trump-nonwhite-working-class-voters-2024

Biden loses ground with working-class Black, Latino voters

By the numbers: In the New York Times/Siena poll released last week, Biden failed to win majority support from non-white voters who hadn't graduated from college.


His lead over Trump with this once-heavily Democratic constituency is just 16 points (49%–33%).
In 2020, Biden dominated Trump with these voters, winning by an overwhelming 48-point margin, according to an analysis by the Democratic data firm Catalist.
Obama won non-white working-class voters by a whopping 67-point margin in 2012.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/biden-abc-wapo-poll-black-americans-approval-drop
Biden sees 30-point drop in approval from black voters in latest poll
by Brady Knox, Breaking News Reporter
 May 07, 2023 04:44 PM

[Luvnit2]

Monday, August 28
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
2024 Republican Presidential Nomination Emerson Trump 50, DeSantis 12, Ramaswamy 9, Pence 7, Haley 7, Christie 5, Scott 2, Burgum 1, Hutchinson 1, Hurd 0 Trump +38
2024 Democratic Presidential Nomination Emerson Biden 61, Kennedy 12, Williamson 4 Biden +49
General Election: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 44, Trump 46 Trump +2
General Election: Trump vs. Biden vs. West Emerson Trump 44, Biden 39, West 4 Trump +5

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Read them and weep. Trump gained on Biden after the Atlanta indictment. Trump is becoming a hero in the hood, they see him being persecuted and they remember they were better off during his Presidency than under Biden. The black voters are waking up slowly. As I heard a rapper named "Clutch" say last night the black community in the hood now stands with Trump against those persecuting him.

[Luvnit2]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/jean-pierre-pressed-tough-polling-about-biden-age-concerns-briefing

The Aug. 10-14 Associated Press-NORC poll found that 77% of Americans say Biden is too old for a second term. While an unsurprising 89% of Republicans expressed the sentiment, 69% of Democrats also say Biden is no longer up to the task, according to the poll.

The man has spent August on vacation. He plans on starting September on vacation. The man has no work ethic and even his own party sees it. Hs attempt to d a quick walk to get to a podium is outweighed by his bumbling when he speaks, then takes very few questions, then is lost and has no idea how to exit the podium.

He is an embarrassment to the country, yes even to Democrats.

[hollodero]

(08-29-2023, 11:15 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: He is an embarrassment to the country, yes even to Democrats.

Quick message from the outside world: Yeah, Biden is not amongst the most impressive presidents, that's for sure. Your selection process provides the most bizarre outcomes. But when it comes to embarrassment, Biden, despite all his lapses, is a midget following a giant. We all never have seen anything as embarrassing as Donald Trump - the examples would fill libraries. Closely followed by so many people loving his moronic egomanical behind and considering this person to be a genius.

And yeah, that is a majority opinion. Everywhere.

[Dill]

(08-29-2023, 11:46 AM)hollodero Wrote: Quick message from the outside world: Yeah, Biden is not amongst the most impressive presidents, that's for sure. Your selection process provides the most bizarre outcomes. But when it comes to embarrassment, Biden, despite all his lapses, is a midget following a giant. We all never have seen anything as embarrassing as Donald Trump - the examples would fill libraries. Closely followed by so many people loving his moronic egomanical behind and considering this person to be a genius.

And yeah, that is a majority opinion. Everywhere.

Well, I beg to differ, Hollo.

Trump is quite popular in Russia and with that country's brilliant leader.

And leaders of many other countries, like North Korea, Turkey, the Philippines, Hungary, and Saudi Arabia 
all very much prefer the dynamic Trump to Sleepy Joe.

Even China's Xi wants Trump back in office
https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Xi-Jinping-is-cheering-for-Trump-to-win

Trump's blunderbuss administration swung wildly in all directions as it sought to make life difficult for China's economy and rarely made meaningful contact. Xi's economic policy team nimbly pivoted to limit fallout, while U.S. allies seethed in anger as they suffered collateral damage.
Biden's China policy mix, by contrast, has undermined the world's second-biggest economy with surgical precision. His team has gone after soft targets, including limiting access to key technologies needed to propel China Inc. upmarket and making life difficult for Chinese companies listed on U.S. exchanges.

I'd say that, with the possible exception of Iran, there isn't an autocratic regime in the world that
does NOT prefer Trump to Biden. 

So yeah, yours is the "majority opinion" alright--but only among democratic allies. 

[Dill]

(08-29-2023, 10:53 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Biden loses ground with working-class Black, Latino voters
By the numbers: In the New York Times/Siena poll released last week, Biden failed to win majority support from non-white voters who hadn't graduated from college.
His lead over Trump with this once-heavily Democratic constituency is just 16 points (49%–33%).
In 2020, Biden dominated Trump with these voters, winning by an overwhelming 48-point margin, according to an analysis by the Democratic data firm Catalist.
Obama won non-white working-class voters by a whopping 67-point margin in 2012.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/biden-abc-wapo-poll-black-americans-approval-drop
Biden sees 30-point drop in approval from black voters in latest poll
by Brady Knox, Breaking News Reporter
 May 07, 2023 04:44 PM

What if those non-white constituencies recognize that it is Republicans who are preventing Biden from keeping his promises to them?
Polls could change then, right?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/some-black-men-lose-faith-biden-democrats-2024-2023-08-01/

[hollodero]

(08-29-2023, 12:48 PM)Dill Wrote: Well, I beg to differ, Hollo.

Ah, but you're not differing. All those countries still see Trump as an embarrassment. It makes him popular, like an atrocious Steelers QB would be popular with Bengals fans.

[*Nately120*]

(08-29-2023, 01:11 PM)hollodero Wrote: Ah, but you're not differing. All those countries still see Trump as an ambarrassment. It makes him popular, like an atrocious Steelers QB would be popular with Bengals fans.

Listen, we don't have ulterior motives in wanting Mason Rudolph to start.  We can just admit he's the best guy to lead the Steelers back to the promised land.  Honest.

[BFritz21]

(08-29-2023, 01:11 PM)hollodero Wrote: Ah, but you're not differing. All those countries still see Trump as an ambarrassment. It makes him popular, like an atrocious Steelers QB would be popular with Bengals fans.

What do they see as embarrassing about him?

Because he hurt their feelings and wasn't the typical President that did and said things that weren't common from a world leader?

That's how Biden got elected, but facts don't care about your feelings.

[hollodero]

(08-29-2023, 05:33 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: What do they see as embarrassing about him?

Because he hurt their feelings and wasn't the typical President that did and said things that weren't common from a world leader?

That's how Biden got elected, but facts don't care about your feelings.

OK since you answered your own question for me already (I'm a doofus putting my feelings over fact), there's really no need to get into a fruitless conversation.

Rather sign up for fantasy already :)

[BFritz21]

(08-29-2023, 06:14 PM)hollodero Wrote: OK since you answered your own question for me already (I'm a doofus putting my feelings over fact), there's really no need to get into a fruitless conversation.

Rather sign up for fantasy already :)

If I were wrong, you'd be happy to refute my post.

[*pally*]

(08-29-2023, 05:33 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: What do they see as embarrassing about him?

Because he hurt their feelings and wasn't the typical President that did and said things that weren't common from a world leader?

That's how Biden got elected, but facts don't care about your feelings.

Biden got elected because people saw his opponent as a self-serving, incompetent, grifter who had the emotional maturity of a toddler and made decisions based on how they would personally benefit him instead of the country.

And if you don’t understand that, you will never understand that it will happen again in 2024 despite reservations about Biden’s age

[hollodero]

(08-30-2023, 01:54 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: If I were wrong, you'd be happy to refute my post.

You know what, you're right. The fact it is pointless should not deter me.

Here's for Trump being an embarrassment. When he ran, he had to settle a case against him over running a fake university, a blatant scheme to rip off people. Which, apparent when studying wikipedia alone, is typical. Then we saw a man who has no idea about anything. When talking health care, he promised "health care for everyone, for a fraction of the cost, and it's gonna be sooo easy". He wanted to build a wall along the border, had no idea about costs (he said 5 billion there, twenty somewhere else, whatever) and then had Mexico pay for it, which is absurd on its face. He claimed the US has a negative GDP and "real" unemployment rates of 21%, then suddenly of 42%, absurd numbers he just made up on the fly without noticing how idiotic they sound. All while Trump knowing nothing about anything, he bragged and called himself a genius, one that knew more about anything than the experts, more about war than the generals and whatnot. Then there was a tape of him bragging about grabbing p..., of him being lewd and sleazy and walking into woman's dressing rooms and then some. Which did not deter him to mimic a Christian and even claimed that his audits take so much longer because the IRS might be biased against devout Christians. Speaking of, he claimed he does not have to ask God for forgiveness because he never did anything wrong - like a good Christian would say, one that also calls the second Corinthians "two Corinthians", can not quote a single bible verse and holds bibles upside down.
Pretty much everything he said was completely moronic, not to mention his tweets. You elected him anyway. In his first week alone, he ordered his press secretary to call his inauguration the biggest one ever held, "period!", when it clearly was not. The world was seeing him rant at night about celebrities, about former employees, about his personal foes, in a manner like a 10-year-old would. A sitting US president asked me to check out a non-existing porn tape of some miss university contestant he does not like. What do you think the world thinks about things like that?

He hired only the best people. Pure excellence. He fired most of those people afterwards, then suddenly calling them dumb as a rock, crazed crying lowlife, incompetent mummies with small brains or comparing them with dogs and whatnot. The same best people, that is. He misspoke on hurricane paths and then drew an alternative path on an official map to be right regardless. At which point even a 10-year-old would know that's just dumb. He believed clean coal means they literally clean the coal, he claimed windmills might cause cancer, he stared into the eclipse, he noticed Puerto Rico is an island, surrounded by water - ocean water, he called a hurricane "wet from the standpoint of water". He asked live if injecting bleach might be a cure for corona. He claimed you need ID to buy groceries. He claimed Washington's army took over airports. He claimed you literally can not see stealth fighters even when you're right next to them, as if they were actually invisible. In reality he said something unspeakably dumb every other week. He publicly believed Vladimir Putin over his own intelligence agencies and then claimed he said "would" instead of "would not" in the most incredible clarification ever. All while gratefully endorsing Putin's offer to help with the Russia investigation in exchange for the US helping Putin to investigate US citizens. He shoved prime ministers away to be on a photo, he claimed "China has total respect for Donald Trump and Donald Trump's very very large ah-brain". All diplomats and other officials laughed about him, as did most people. Everyone in my country, even those who do not care about US politics at all, had plenty of stories about Trump being woefully dumb. Speaking of my country, Trump suddenly claimed we live in "forest cities" with "explosive trees", please who can take someone like that seriously? Explosive trees?

I almost pitied him at times, he had so little idea about anything. He never got any legislation done by himself. He had no idea how to build a wall, but he had "world-class mountain climbers" climb some "impenetrable" prototypes and did claim several times the wall needs to be see-through so that people don't get killed by heavy bags of drugs thrown over it. As drug dealers do. He had no clue about health care except for two words ("individual mandate", it was all he had to say about it really, and that no one knew it was so complicated). His only alleged legislative achievement, the tax cuts, got torpedoed by the president talking out of his behind and causing turmoil with his ignorance. All while he was bragging abut himself being the greatest president ever, only possibly excepting Lincoln, a very stable genius who's the only person that can solve North Korea and whatnot. To save this for last, he publicly claimed he had "fallen in love", nothing less, with North Korea's gory dictator.

So please. All that and way way way more are the reasons why people see Trump as embarrassing. To spare you an answer, it has nothing to do with hurt feelings.

[Arturo Bandini]

(08-29-2023, 05:33 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: What do they see as embarrassing about him?

Because he hurt their feelings and wasn't the typical President that did and said things that weren't common from a world leader?

That's how Biden got elected, but facts don't care about your feelings.

Remeber the whole UN laughing at him ? 


Remember the airports during the independance war ? 

Remember the face he had in Helsinki close to Putin ? 

Telling to inject bleach on national TV ? 

Maybe you have your answers. 

And as Hollodero said, Biden is not very enthusiastic but Good lord ... I've never seen a president of any civilized country being such an idiot on power and God knows GWB put the bar very high.



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[Luvnit2]

It amazes me how democrats continue to defend the policies (black urban voters are broke due to lack of jobs and inflation) of Joe Biden and his ability to lead. I saw the same issues with John McCain years ago, I voted for Obama who was energetic and I bought into his change the world politics.

You and his handlers should be ashamed. He can't get through a 5 minute scripted speech without a blunder. He looks lost when done and has no idea how to exit. He falls asleep in Maui deeply hurting the people of Hawaii. He rarely does a news conference and takes very few questions. His staff selects the reporters to call on most of the time so they can script Joe's answers on queue cards, even then he screws up.

Joe Biden is getting worse by the day. It is apparent to all, but his wife the fake doctor Jill Biden sees it, has to see it, yet allows politic to outweigh humanity.

So keep riding the Biden train, but I warn you it left the rails a long time ago.

[BigPapaKain]

How is Jill Biden a fake doctor when she in fact has a doctorate?

The salt of conservatives could dry the oceans.