Poll: Who did you get on the I Side With quiz?
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Darrell Castle ©
0%
0 0%
Hillary Clinton (D)
7.69%
2 7.69%
Gary Johnson (L)
42.31%
11 42.31%
Jill Stein (G)
30.77%
8 30.77%
Donald Trump ®
19.23%
5 19.23%
Total 26 vote(s) 100%
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#61
(08-12-2016, 12:38 PM)fredtoast Wrote: My position is clear.  Let's not sidetrack this thread.

I'll take that as you don't think it should be required. Thanks. Isn't the thread to discuss issues in the survey of the OP? I don't see how discussing questions asked in the OP and the answers provided is sidetracking.
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#62
(08-12-2016, 12:40 PM)bfine32 Wrote:  Isn't the thread to discuss issues in the survey of the OP? I don't see how discussing questions asked in the OP and the answers provided is sidetracking.

I don't think a single thread about every single issue in the election would be manageable.  It would be like having just one thread for the entire election.

I see this thread as more about seeing how well a persons position on the issues matches his/her party affiliation.
#63
(08-12-2016, 11:42 AM)bfine32 Wrote: There was one question in this survey as well as the issues Thread Matt started that I cannot understand the logic behind anybody saying No:

Should a picture ID be required to vote?

I see it as trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. I have yet to see evidence that voting fraud that would be solved by photo identification is occurring, so I don't see a need to erecting a barrier to voting if no problem exists. That isn't to say I can't imagine a need for it at some point, but that isn't the case right now.
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#64
(08-12-2016, 07:26 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I see it as trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. I have yet to see evidence that voting fraud that would be solved by photo identification is occurring, so I don't see a need to erecting a barrier to voting if no problem exists. That isn't to say I can't imagine a need for it at some point, but that isn't the case right now.

How is it a barrier? If a country such as India with a billion people living in whos infrastructure is no where near ours and has a much higher poverty rate can do it why can't we?
#65
(08-13-2016, 09:16 AM)mallorian69 Wrote: How is it a barrier? If a country such as India with a billion people living in whos infrastructure is no where near ours and has a much higher poverty rate can do it why can't we?

Because,as is typical, the gov wants you to do it and they don't want to help you do it.

but besides that we all do have a voter ID.  You get it when you register to vote.

Same thing in India:

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-I-need-a-voter-card-to-vote-in-India

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/don-t-have-voter-id-card-still-can-vote/story-8L6DpG4dx6d68FGEk2Hx0I.html


Quote:Don't have voter id card? Still can vote
  • Vimal Chander Joshi, Hindustan Times, Gurgaon
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  • Updated: May 05, 2011 00:36 IST
Zeena Raphaun, 52, got herself enrolled on the voters’ list recently but doubts if she would be allowed to cast her vote.

Like Raphaun, thousands of genuine voters who don’t have election identification cards to prove their identity are unaware of their rights. There are oblivious to the fact that enrollment in the voters’ list is the only pre-requisite to cast vote. They only need to show a valid identification proof such as a PAN card or driving licence to participate in the MCG polls on May 15.


“I am constantly getting calls from voters who don’t know that they can cast their vote without a valid id. When I tell them about their right, they are happy,” said Nisha Singh, a candidate from ward number 30.


Raphaun is dismayed that she did not receive the id but is elated to have become a genuine voter in India where she returned only three years ago from Bahrain after two decades.


Colonel S Oberoi of Mission Gurgaon Development also urges city residents to vote regardless of identity cards.

“Ideally there should be a card when you vote, but the election commission has relaxed the rules because a lot of voters in Gurgaon don't have their cards. One can show any identity card issued by the government, semi-government or public sector enterprise but the card must have a number so that the voter can traced. Even a bank identification card or a senior citizen card can be used.”


“I will definitely go and cast my vote. As a responsible voter, I wanted to participate in the electoral process,” Raphaun said. Regardless of the fact that she had to repeatedly go to the municipal corporation office to get her voter’s identification card made, she didn’t lose spirit. Having turned away from the office thrice on reportedly frivolous grounds, she would have given up but due to her persistence, her name is there in the voters’ list, albeit without a card.


“The person who was attending aggrieved voters used to give me a lecture every time I applied for the voter’s identification card. After I faced it thrice, I approached an election candidate who helped me with the process,” she said.
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#66
(08-13-2016, 09:16 AM)mallorian69 Wrote: How is it a barrier? If a country such as India with a billion people living in whos infrastructure is no where near ours and has a much higher poverty rate can do it why can't we?

If a photo ID is required to vote, it is a barrier unless it is provided free of charge at the time of registration and is automatically renewed without the voter having to do anything. To be quite frank, active voter registration, where the citizen has to do it, is a barrier to voting.

Barriers that can seem insignificant to most people will always impact a portion of the population negatively. Adding another one to solve a non-existent problem seems like a bad idea for a place people like to claim is the freest country on the planet.
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#67
I had some very interesting results....until I read the details.  I share a little common ground with all candidates on varying issues, I've always taken a middle of the road, common sense kind of approach to politics.  After reading through those details under the results, they made a little more sense.  Call me fiscally conservative, socially liberal voter (on most issues).

Johnson--68%
Stein--66%
Castle--64%
HilLIARry--63%
Trump--60%

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#68
Another Democratic hypocrite. I only sided with the candidate I will vote for on 97% of the issues. How will I sleep at night knowing I am voting for Hillary Clinton?
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#69
Full result I tied with 97% for Stein and Clinton, 65% for Johnson, and threw up in my mouth a little when I saw 11% Trump, but given how fluid his positions are I guess everyone agrees with him on at least 11%. Also had 7% agreement with Darrel "Is he actually a candidate for President?" Castle.
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That is the image to share which differs from my actual results:

Stein 82%
Clinton 79%
Johnson 49%
Trump 42%
Castile 41%

http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/2528623750
#71
[Image: Jill+Stein%3A25x52;Hillary+Clinton%3A30x...A37x51.jpg]

Slightly left of center, but pretty damn close to center.
#72
Unilateralism vs Multilateralism
100
You side extremely towards “Multilateralism”, meaning you very strongly believe policy decisions should be made collectively with support of everyone who may be affected by the outcome of the decision. This theme is somewhat important to you.

Capitalism vs Socialism
90
You side extremely towards “Socialism”, meaning you very strongly support an economic system which advocates collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. This theme is somewhat important to you.

Pacifism vs Militarism
80
You side strongly towards “Pacifism”, meaning you strongly believe we should use non-violent diplomatic discussion to resolve conflicts. This theme is somewhat important to you.

Populism vs Elitism
74
You side strongly towards “Populism”, meaning you strongly believe decisions are best made when everyone has a say. This theme is somewhat important to you.

Isolationism vs Imperialism
70
You side strongly towards “Isolationism”, meaning you strongly believe we should focus attention on our most pressing issues at home instead of involving ourselves in non-threatening issues abroad. This theme is somewhat important to you.

Environmentalism vs Anthropocentrism
62
You side moderately towards “Environmentalism”, meaning you believe in sustainability, environmental protection, and improving the health of the environment. This theme is somewhat important to you.

Globalization vs Protectionism
50
You side moderately towards “Protectionism”, meaning you believe globalization is detrimental to the safety, compensation, environment, and standard of living of workers. This theme is somewhat important to you.

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#73
(08-12-2016, 07:26 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I see it as trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. I have yet to see evidence that voting fraud that would be solved by photo identification is occurring, so I don't see a need to erecting a barrier to voting if no problem exists. That isn't to say I can't imagine a need for it at some point, but that isn't the case right now.

This ^. Voter ID has one goal: to lower our "democracy's" already embarrassingly low participation rate. 

Good to see a few members understand this.

Whether you understand it or not is a quite revealing. 
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#74
(08-15-2016, 02:46 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: [Image: Jill+Stein%3A25x52;Hillary+Clinton%3A30x...A37x51.jpg]

Slightly left of center, but pretty damn close to center.

I like that chart.....I should have tinkered more with the site while I was there.

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