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Russian collusion hoax update.
#1
Wonder why these stories not all over the democrat run MSM?

The rats are gonna get flushed out!

At the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency, the President has directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to provide for the immediate declassification of the following materials: (1) pages 10-12 and 17-34 of the June 2017 application to the FISA court in the matter of Carter W. Page; (2) all FBI reports of interviews with Bruce G. Ohr prepared in connection with the Russia investigation; and (3) all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all Carter Page FISA applications.

In addition, President Donald J. Trump has directed the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation, without redaction, of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.


Lisa Page testified before congress. No evidence of collusion.
Mueller appointed to head a special council without evidence of collusion or wrongdoing....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/16/lisa-page-testimony-collusion-still-unproven-by-time-muellers-special-counsel-appointment.html

Trump to declassify Russian investigation docs.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/trump-to-declassify-insurance-policy-in-strzok-page-text-nunes-says.html
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Someone should tell all of these Trump officials going to prison that this is all a hoax.
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(09-18-2018, 11:31 AM)Vlad Wrote: Wonder why these stories not all over the democrat run MSM?

Mellow

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/17/donald-trump-orders-release-russia-investigation-documents/1340459002/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/17/politics/donald-trump-declassify-documents/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/18/review-underway-for-russia-probe-documents-ordered-released.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/us/politics/trump-russia-investigation-documents-declassified.html

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/17/648883919/trump-orders-declassification-of-documents-about-fbi-sought-by-house-republicans

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-orders-justice-dept-to-declassify-russia-related-material/2018/09/17/661b7c78-bac1-11e8-9812-a389be6690af_story.html?utm_term=.830d30676efe

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-declassifies-russia-investigation-docs-security-be-damned-1322896451548?v=railb&

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-orders-declassification-of-parts-of-fisa-application-related-to-carter-page-1537220786

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-russia-declassify-20180911-story.html

http://time.com/5398755/donald-trump-declassifies-russia-investigation-documents/

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/407103-trump-to-declassify-controversial-text-messages-documents-related-to

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-17/trump-orders-declassification-of-some-fbi-russia-probe-reports

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#4
(09-18-2018, 11:33 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Someone should tell all of these Trump officials going to prison that this is all a hoax.

Tell them, so what?

So you actually believe after all that has been exposed that somehow the Russians influenced the election results?
#5
(09-18-2018, 11:44 AM)Vlad Wrote: Tell them, so what?

So you actually believe after all that has been exposed that somehow the Russians influenced the election results?

All what has been exposed?
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(09-18-2018, 11:44 AM)Vlad Wrote: Tell them, so what?

So you actually believe after all that has been exposed that somehow the Russians influenced the election results?

Tried to? Yes. 
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#7
Why feed the Russian bot? I mean, the guy doesn't even try to hide it (Vlad, short for Vladimir).

We as Americans must rally to get these people off of our Public forums and social media. Regardless of party and who they help/support.
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#8
(09-18-2018, 11:44 AM)Vlad Wrote: So you actually believe after all that has been exposed that somehow the Russians influenced the election results?

The Trump administration imposed sanctions against Russia for doing it.

So you think Trump is in on the hoax?
#9
(09-18-2018, 11:31 AM)Vlad Wrote: Wonder why these stories not all over the democrat run MSM?

This is such a prime example for ultrapartisan republican's projection.

The party-run media doesn't so much exist with democrats, it very much exists with republicans though. The biggest network (allegedly, it's what FOX claims and I believe it) is nothing more than their outlet. So the "democrat run MSM" accusation seems especially odd when coming from that corner.

You'd very much benefit from not just believing right-wing sites or FOX or whatever feeds you. That Trump ordered a declassification was reported that widey that even I got aware. Kudos to Dino for the work searching for so many of them.


Apart from that - a president declassifying documents jsut in hopes to be somewhat relieved from scrutiny (probably by starting a content-less smoke bomb #releasethememo style) really is nothing anyone should celebrate.

Let me ask a question you probably won't answer anyway: Would you prefer a right-wing (or Trump-led) dictatorship over elections where democrats could gain influence?
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(09-18-2018, 04:11 PM)hollodero Wrote: This is such a prime example for ultrapartisan republican's projection.

The party-run media doesn't so much exist with democrats, it very much exists with republicans though. The biggest network (allegedly, it's what FOX claims and I believe it) is nothing more than their outlet. So the "democrat run MSM" accusation seems especially odd when coming from that corner.

You'd very much benefit from not just believing right-wing sites or FOX or whatever feeds you. That Trump ordered a declassification was reported that widey that even I got aware. Kudos to Dino for the work searching for so many of them.


Apart from that - a president declassifying documents jsut in hopes to be somewhat relieved from scrutiny (probably by starting a content-less smoke bomb #releasethememo style) really is nothing anyone should celebrate.

Let me ask a question you probably won't answer anyway: Would you prefer a right-wing (or Trump-led) dictatorship over elections where democrats could gain influence?

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#11
Pretty successful traitorous election rigging con job by the russian pawn. Divided the country. And now inflicting massive damage to our intel assets.
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(09-19-2018, 01:03 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Pretty successful traitorous election rigging con job by the russian pawn. Divided the country. And now inflicting massive damage to our intel assets.

i believe the term the Russians use is " useful idiot ". That sounds about right.
#13
(09-18-2018, 11:38 AM)GMDino Wrote: Mellow

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/17/donald-trump-orders-release-russia-investigation-documents/1340459002/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/17/politics/donald-trump-declassify-documents/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/18/review-underway-for-russia-probe-documents-ordered-released.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/us/politics/trump-russia-investigation-documents-declassified.html

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/17/648883919/trump-orders-declassification-of-documents-about-fbi-sought-by-house-republicans

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-orders-justice-dept-to-declassify-russia-related-material/2018/09/17/661b7c78-bac1-11e8-9812-a389be6690af_story.html?utm_term=.830d30676efe

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-declassifies-russia-investigation-docs-security-be-damned-1322896451548?v=railb&

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-orders-declassification-of-parts-of-fisa-application-related-to-carter-page-1537220786

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-russia-declassify-20180911-story.html

http://time.com/5398755/donald-trump-declassifies-russia-investigation-documents/

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/407103-trump-to-declassify-controversial-text-messages-documents-related-to

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-17/trump-orders-declassification-of-some-fbi-russia-probe-reports

Mellow

Um...only 20% of Americans get their news from the print media...57% from TV.

It has always been presumed to be the TV news media when criticizing the MSM over ignoring and suppressing news.

That should save you time from doing this unnecessary research the next time I mention the MSM suppressing news.
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(09-20-2018, 07:34 AM)Vlad Wrote: Um...only 20% of Americans get their news from the print media...57% from TV.

It has generally been presumed to be the TV news media when criticizing the MSM over ignoring and suppressing news.

That should save you time from doing this unnecessary research the next time I mention the MSM.

Oh proving your politically biased hyperbole wrong is never an unnecessary wast of time.

It's quick and easy.   Smirk
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(09-20-2018, 07:34 AM)Vlad Wrote: Um...only 20% of Americans get their news from the print media...57% from TV.

It has generally been presumed to be the TV news media when criticizing the MSM over ignoring and suppressing news.

That should save you time from doing this unnecessary research the next time I mention the MSM.

You're just wrong, here. All of those sources would be considered MSM by anyone not trying to spin their way out of a corner. Aside from that, though, is that in that post there are three links from television news networks (CNN, CNBC, and MSNBC). So not only did you fail in your definition of MSM, you failed in your reading of the post because there are still links within it that would be defined by your own view as MSM.

I don't have high expectations for your posts, but this was bad even for you.
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(09-20-2018, 07:49 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: You're just wrong, here. All of those sources would be considered MSM by anyone not trying to spin their way out of a corner. Aside from that, though, is that in that post there are three links from television news networks (CNN, CNBC, and MSNBC). So not only did you fail in your definition of MSM, you failed in your reading of the post because there are still links within it that would be defined by your own view as MSM.

I don't have high expectations for your posts, but this was bad even for you.

It would save unnecessary posting if you would read what was actually typed. I was not defining the MSM.

The liberal run MSM which includes both print and TV, have misled, ignored, and lied, and have been justly criticized for it.

My post was strictly about SUPPRESSING information, nothing else... that 57% of Americans come home turn on the TV and not hear that Hispanics and Blacks have been doing well under Trump, or reporting on the corruption that has been exposed on the left throughout this Russian debacle.
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(09-20-2018, 07:44 AM)GMDino Wrote: Oh proving your politically biased hyperbole wrong is never an unnecessary wast of time.

It's quick and easy.   Smirk

Why of course, nothing you can say so lets commence with the ad hominem.

The gall for you or anyone on the left to make accusations of political hyperbole when you are affiliated with a group of crying, whining, rioting, protesting leftists who cant stand Trump being your president.


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(09-20-2018, 08:49 AM)Vlad Wrote: Why of course, nothing you can say so lets commence with the ad hominem...
The gall for you or anyone on the left to make accusations of political hyperbole when you are affiliated with a group of crying, whining, rioting, protesting leftist who cant stand Trump being your president.


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You might need help.
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(09-20-2018, 08:49 AM)Vlad Wrote: The gall for you or anyone on the left to make accusations of political hyperbole when you are affiliated with a group of crying, whining, rioting, protesting leftist who cant stand Trump being your president.

Affiliated with rioters goes a bit far. In the same sense, you'd be affiliated with white supremacists and Neo-Nazis. Something I would never say, so.
In the general sense, what's described is typical for most partisan political people in the US, I'd figure. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" Lk 6:41
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(09-20-2018, 09:03 AM)hollodero Wrote: Affiliated with rioters goes a bit far. In the same sense, you'd be affiliated with white supremacists and Neo-Nazis. Something I would never say, so.
In the general sense, what's described is typical for most partisan political people in the US, I'd figure. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" Lk 6:41

That is incorrect.

I do not share the views of white supremacists or neo-nazis.

Those vile leftists sub humans share the same views as their better behaving liberal counterparts.

Yes, even that bloodied up woman who menstruated all over herself in protest during the Kavanaugh hearings....she shares your views.
She's on your side.





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