So why has the Mueller inventigation been so silent?

[Vlad]

Because they can't avoid "running into" a lot of underhanded shenanigans committed by democRATS.


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/18/gregg-jarrett-clinton-cover-up-brought-to-by-same-guys-who-are-investigating-trump.html

Well lookie here,

Following the FBI’s release of documents confirming that former FBI Director James Comey began drafting a letter on the Hillary Clinton email investigation months before completing several interviews, Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C. said Comey needs to testify before Congress again.

Yeah the secret meeting between Bill and  AG Lynch on the tarmac ...just to talk family and kids. How many of you still believe that?
DemocRATS all of them.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/17/rep-gowdy-wants-comey-to-testify-again-following-clinton-email-draft-release.html

[StLucieBengal]

it’s hilarious this is blowing up in their faces. The only thing saving them is the media covering for them.

[*bfine32*]

Reaction to Trump has blown up in a lot of folks faces. They try to expose him for his "ugliness" and often highlight their own.

Brings to mind the beginning of the Republican Presidential race. The party came up with this 'Everyone must sign to support whomever is nominated" pact. The intent was to ensure once Trump was eliminated he wouldn't try to divide the party. But guess what? He won and now the party is dividing itself on many issues.

Similar to those in the media and general public that try to expose Trump's flaws. They usually only succeed in making themselves look petty. Just look at many of the famous folks comments.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-19-2017, 02:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Reaction to Trump has blown up in a lot of folks faces. They try to expose him for his "ugliness" and often highlight their own.

Brings to mind the beginning of the Republican Presidential race. The party came up with this 'Everyone must sign to support whomever is nominated" pact. The intent was to ensure once Trump was eliminated he wouldn't try to divide the party. But guess what? He won and now the party is dividing itself on many issues.

Similar to those in the media and general public that try to expose Trump's flaws. They usually only succeed in making themselves look petty. Just look at many of the famous folks comments.

Trump was elected because he wins the culture war. The lesson for conservatives moving forward is they shouldn’t be afraid to go after Democrats because Republicans are tired of taking the high road while being called racists.

[BmorePat87]

Maybe it's because they realized that, as Trump just suggested today, the FBI paid for the Russian dossier

[Belsnickel]

Or, and this is just me spitballing here, it's because they are professionals doing their job and will not make many public comments until they are near or have concluded their investigation. That could be a very plausible reason for silence from the Mueller team.

Again, just throwing that out there.

[Benton]

(10-19-2017, 03:45 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Or, and this is just me spitballing here, it's because they are professionals doing their job and will not make many public comments until they are near or have concluded their investigation. That could be a very plausible reason for silence from the Mueller team.

Again, just throwing that out there.

As opposed to starting and stopping investigations and making public statements on them for (most likely) political reasons?

[Belsnickel]

(10-19-2017, 03:53 PM)Benton Wrote: As opposed to starting and stopping investigations and making public statements on them for (most likely) political reasons?

I know, seems like a very unorthodox way of conducting an investigation, but hear me out. It may actually produce more thorough results because of the lack of public and political influence.

I know, right?

[JustWinBaby]

(10-19-2017, 03:45 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Or, and this is just me spitballing here, it's because they are professionals doing their job and will not make many public comments until they are near or have concluded their investigation.

It's a good theory, but there HAVE been some pretty juicy leaks, such as reports Manafort was indicted.

I think it's more likely the case "leaks" haven't decreased but the media has been burned so many times they are looking for some hard evidence rather than taking sources at their word.  I also think the media has tamped down speculation on Trump being implicated....and will probably wait for all the facts to create guilt by association (which is hard to ignore if one or more people close to you are really dirty).

[Dill]

(10-19-2017, 03:10 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Trump was elected because he wins the culture war.   The lesson for conservatives moving forward is they shouldn’t be afraid to go after Democrats because Republicans are tired of taking the high road while being called racists.

He has faced down the fake news liberal media and exposed the hypocritical DemocRATS for who they really are.  He Tweets his mind without any filter and if you hit him he hits back ten times as hard. (Rosie, Hillary and Mika--look out "nasty" women!)

Conservatives pay attention--Taking the high road works!

[Dill]

(10-19-2017, 12:56 PM)Vlad Wrote: Because they can't avoid "running into" a lot of underhanded shenanigans committed by democRATS.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/18/gregg-jarrett-clinton-cover-up-brought-to-by-same-guys-who-are-investigating-trump.html

Well lookie here,

Following the FBI’s release of documents confirming that former FBI Director James Comey began drafting a letter on the Hillary Clinton email investigation months before completing several interviews, Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C. said Comey needs to testify before Congress again.

Yeah the secret meeting between Bill and  AG Lynch on the tarmac ...just to talk family and kids. How many of you still believe that?
DemocRATS all of them.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/17/rep-gowdy-wants-comey-to-testify-again-following-clinton-email-draft-release.html

DemocRATS are crumbling. Trump is firmly in control of the executive now.  Honest government from now on. Goodbye Obamacare, the Iran deal, and taxes on the rich. America sees through "Russiagate" and we are united behind the commander in chief.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-19-2017, 08:48 PM)Dill Wrote: He has faced down the fake news liberal media and exposed the hypocritical DemocRATS for who they really are.  He Tweets his mind without any filter and if you hit him he hits back ten times as hard. (Rosie, Hillary and Mika--look out "nasty" women!)

Conservatives pay attention--Taking the high road works!

If the democrats didn’t constantly play identity politics there would be no Trump. That and the media fawning over obama like a cheap *****.

[Dill]

(10-19-2017, 09:05 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: If the democrats didn’t constantly play identity politics there would be no Trump.   That and the media fawning over obama like a cheap *****.

You may be right about this. If Democrats were not defending the rights of women, Muslims, latinos, LGBTs, and African Americans, maybe people outside those groups would feel less threatened and xenophobic. First a black muslim socialist president and then we have to have a woman?  No way. 

In retrospect, the media bias in favor competence and emotional balance has become abundantly clear. That's why we don't see them fawning over the guy who mimics disabled reporters, insults POWs, and sends out vicious tweets about women's face lifts.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-19-2017, 10:09 PM)Dill Wrote: You may be right about this. If Democrats were not defending the rights of women, Muslims, latinos, LGBTs, and African Americans, maybe people outside those groups would feel less threatened and xenophobic. First a black muslim socialist president and then we have to have a woman?  No way. 

In retrospect, the media bias in favor competence and emotional balance has become abundantly clear. That's why we don't see them fawning over the guy who mimics disabled reporters, insults POWs, and sends out vicious tweets about women's face lifts.

Are they fighting for these groups or just doing enough to keep them down?

How have blacks fared by following democrats? If they were doing so well then we wouldn’t see any outrage.

[Dill]

(10-19-2017, 10:19 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Are they fighting for these groups or just doing enough to keep them down?    

How have blacks fared by following democrats?   If they were doing so well then we wouldn’t see any outrage.

Maybe another party is blocking Democratic efforts?  That might explain some outrage.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/us/supreme-court-ruling.html

Why would fighting FOR groups "keep them down"?  Why wouldn't the party fighting AGAINST these groups be the one that keeps them down?

[Bengalzona]

The investigation has been silent because that is the best way to run a professional investigation. Throwing out facts and details to the media before the investigation is complete and has reached final conclusions undermines the ongoing investigation. I'm glad to see that they can still operate in a professional manner and are not totally beholden to media sensationalism like many politicians and government organizations.

A couple of things about the investigation. First, special counsel investigations take years. They go into excruciating detail in their work. Historically, they generally average around three to four years. Second, the investigation is supposed to be about Russian interference into our election. It is not supposed to be a witch hunt, despite the fact that many people on either side of the aisle seem to want some kind of witch hunt. I think some people need to consider why they would want a witch hunt (i.e. maybe the virtues of your 'side' are not so self-evident and strong enough that they can survive without a witch hunt). If inappropriate behavior is found by individuals during the course of the investigation, then that opens up a separate investigation.

[Belsnickel]

(10-19-2017, 06:40 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: It's a good theory, but there HAVE been some pretty juicy leaks, such as reports Manafort was indicted.

I think it's more likely the case "leaks" haven't decreased but the media has been burned so many times they are looking for some hard evidence rather than taking sources at their word.  I also think the media has tamped down speculation on Trump being implicated....and will probably wait for all the facts to create guilt by association (which is hard to ignore if one or more people close to you are really dirty).

Was that a leak from inside, though? Aren't indictments generally public? I haven't really seen anything that would be something that only someone from inside the investigation would know, it's all been information that if you just know the right place to look, you can find out.

[Bengalzona]

(10-20-2017, 11:19 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Was that a leak from inside, though? Aren't indictments generally public?

Yes. Indictments are public.

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

(10-20-2017, 11:16 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: The investigation has been silent because that is the best way to run a professional investigation. Throwing out facts and details to the media before the investigation is complete and has reached final conclusions undermines the ongoing investigation. I'm glad to see that they can still operate in a professional manner and are not totally beholden to media sensationalism like many politicians and government organizations.

A couple of things about the investigation. First, special counsel investigations take years. They go into excruciating detail in their work. Historically, they generally average around three to four years. Second, the investigation is supposed to be about Russian interference into our election. It is not supposed to be a witch hunt, despite the fact that many people on either side of the aisle seem to want some kind of witch hunt. I think some people need to consider why they would want a witch hunt (i.e. maybe the virtues of your 'side' are not so self-evident and strong enough that they can survive without a witch hunt). If inappropriate behavior is found by individuals during the course of the investigation, then that opens up a separate investigation.

Honestly I don't think the president will be indicted on anything.  However I do think something with Russia was going on.  I'm really just interested in what they find.  Also I think people forget that the Watergate investigation took something like two to two and half years.

[Yojimbo]

Well apparently it’s because he was busy filing charges...

http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-charges-russia-investigation-trump-2017-10