The President Survival Game

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

(07-09-2015, 11:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Richmond I have a source... But I'm not home to post it from my computer.  I saved it to my favs.   Will post when I get a chance.

I'd be interested in looking at it.

[fredtoast]

(07-09-2015, 11:25 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Voting aganst all civil rights legislation for over 11 years.

He did vote against Truman's Civil Rights proposal, but once he became vice president he was very active in pushing the CRA through congress.

[StLucieBengal]

(07-09-2015, 11:42 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: I did do some homework, and even provided a link.  And I think it gives a more complete picture of the man. Your quote (which is pure rumor by two other men btw) was meant to lead people to believe he was a racist bigot.  That is simply not true.   Now I am not excusing his use of racial slurs, lets be clear on that. I suggest that you read the article.

I read that and saw that when I first came across the quotes. I have another that will add to this.

As far as him being a racist Bigot.... Not sure who else uses those terms but racists. All I said was that he was anti civil rights for almost his whole life. Every president has their good, bad and ugly. These are just more of his ugly. We shouldnt be in fantasy land thinking that any preaident didnt do bad things.

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

(07-10-2015, 12:25 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I read that and saw that when I first came across the quotes.   I have another that will add to this.  

As far as him being a racist Bigot....   Not sure who else uses those terms but racists.    All I said was that he was anti civil rights for almost his whole life.      Every president has their good, bad and ugly.   These are just more of his ugly.   We shouldnt be in fantasy land thinking that any preaident didnt do bad things.

I apologize I did go back and edited this post that you quoted to clarify. It was more to the fact that he recognized his own racism as being "wrong minded" so to speak.  I think to put it more succinctly he wanted to be on the right side of history despite his personal views.  I do agree with you though that every president their "good, bad and ugly".  I really did think this link was interesting http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johnson-civil-rights-racism. Try not to dismiss it out of hand because of the source, the article lays into LBJ pretty hard, I was surprised.

[*rfaulk34*]

Why are so many people debating in this "game" thread?

[fredtoast]

(07-10-2015, 12:25 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote:   Not sure who else uses those terms but racists.  

Maybe these quotes are from his rap songs.

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

(07-10-2015, 08:48 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Why are so many people debating in this "game" thread?

Don't worry about it.

[BmorePat87]

Seriously, shut the **** up and play the game.

George Washington 8

John Adams 5
Thomas Jefferson 8
James Madison 8
James Monroe 6
John Quincy Adams 4
Martin Van Buren 6
William Henry Harrison 3
John Tyler 6
James Knox Polk 6
Zachary Taylor 5
Millard Fillmore 4
Franklin Pierce 4
James Buchanan 4
Abraham Lincoln 6
Ulysses S. Grant 6
Rutherford B Hayes 5
James Garfield 5
Chester A Arthur 5
Grover Cleveland 7
Benjamin Harrison 5
William McKinley 6
Theodore Roosevelt 9
William H Taft 6
Woodrow Wilson 4
Calvin Coolidge 6
Herbert Hoover 2
Franklin Delano Roosevelt 6
Harry S. Truman 6
Dwight D Eisenhower 9
John Fitzgerald Kennedy 5
Lyndon Baines Johnson 6
Richard Nixon 5
Gerald Ford 3
Jimmy Carter 3
Ronald Reagan 5
George Bush 4
Bill Clinton 3
George W. Bush 3
Barack Obama 5

ELIMINATED:
Andrew Jackson
Andrew Johnson
Warren G Harding

+ LBJ for the CRA
- Hoover for failing to lead during the depression

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

Seriously, shut the **** up and play the game.

Fine, you're no fun :snark:

George Washington 8

John Adams 5
Thomas Jefferson 8
James Madison 8
James Monroe 6
John Quincy Adams 4
Martin Van Buren 6
William Henry Harrison 3
John Tyler 6
James Knox Polk 6
Zachary Taylor 5
Millard Fillmore 4
Franklin Pierce 4
James Buchanan 4
Abraham Lincoln 6
Ulysses S. Grant 6
Rutherford B Hayes 5
James Garfield 5
Chester A Arthur 5
Grover Cleveland 7
Benjamin Harrison 5
William McKinley 6
Theodore Roosevelt 10
William H Taft 6
Woodrow Wilson 4
Calvin Coolidge 5
Herbert Hoover 2
Franklin Delano Roosevelt 6
Harry S. Truman 6
Dwight D Eisenhower 9
John Fitzgerald Kennedy 5
Lyndon Baines Johnson 6
Richard Nixon 5
Gerald Ford 3
Jimmy Carter 3
Ronald Reagan 5
George Bush 4
Bill Clinton 3
George W. Bush 3
Barack Obama 5

+TR...Dude was just bad ass, Rough Rider, taking on monopolies, backing labor unions, looking out for the common man.

- Coolidge...didn't do much of anything to help prevent the depression before handing it over to Hoover.  He was a president, it was declared, for the "haves", and not the "have-nots".

[*rfaulk34*]

(07-10-2015, 08:48 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Why are so many people debating in this "game" thread?

(07-11-2015, 02:41 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Don't worry about it.

(07-11-2015, 07:42 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Seriously, shut the **** up and play the game.

(07-12-2015, 02:53 AM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Seriously, shut the **** up and play the game.

Fine, you're no fun :snark:

Ha!  

[*bfine32*]

George Washington 8
John Adams 5
Thomas Jefferson 8
James Madison 8
James Monroe 6
John Quincy Adams 4
Martin Van Buren 6
William Henry Harrison 3
John Tyler 6
James Knox Polk 6
Zachary Taylor 5
Millard Fillmore 4
Franklin Pierce 4
James Buchanan 4
Abraham Lincoln 6
Ulysses S. Grant 6
Rutherford B Hayes 5
James Garfield 5
Chester A Arthur 5
Grover Cleveland 7
Benjamin Harrison 5
William McKinley 6
Theodore Roosevelt 10
William H Taft 6
Woodrow Wilson 4
Calvin Coolidge 5
Herbert Hoover 2
Franklin Delano Roosevelt 6
Harry S. Truman 6
Dwight D Eisenhower 9
John Fitzgerald Kennedy 5
Lyndon Baines Johnson 6
Richard Nixon 6
Gerald Ford 3
Jimmy Carter 3
Ronald Reagan 5
George Bush 4
Bill Clinton 3
George W. Bush 3
Barack Obama 4

(+1) NIXON- 1st sitting President to visit all 50 states
(-1) OBAMA- 1st Presidential Candidate to campaign in 57 states

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

(07-12-2015, 09:07 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Ha!  

Shut it teachers pet, I'll find you at recess. :slapping:

[Se ky bengal]

+Washington for being for 1st potus
-Clinton getting caught with monica


George Washington 9
John Adams 5
Thomas Jefferson 8
James Madison 8
James Monroe 6
John Quincy Adams 4
Martin Van Buren 6
William Henry Harrison 3
John Tyler 6
James Knox Polk 6
Zachary Taylor 5
Millard Fillmore 4
Franklin Pierce 4
James Buchanan 4
Abraham Lincoln 6
Ulysses S. Grant 6
Rutherford B Hayes 5
James Garfield 5
Chester A Arthur 5
Grover Cleveland 7
Benjamin Harrison 5
William McKinley 6
Theodore Roosevelt 10
William H Taft 6
Woodrow Wilson 4
Calvin Coolidge 5
Herbert Hoover 2
Franklin Delano Roosevelt 6
Harry S. Truman 6
Dwight D Eisenhower 9
John Fitzgerald Kennedy 5
Lyndon Baines Johnson 6
Richard Nixon 6
Gerald Ford 3
Jimmy Carter 3
Ronald Reagan 5
George Bush 4
Bill CClinton2
George W. Bush 3
Barack Obama 4

[BmorePat87]

It's been 6 days so I am subtracting 3 from everyone.


George Washington 6
John Adams 3
Thomas Jefferson 5
James Madison 5
James Monroe 3
John Quincy Adams 1
Martin Van Buren 3
John Tyler 3
James Knox Polk 3
Zachary Taylor 2
Millard Fillmore 1
Franklin Pierce 1
Abraham Lincoln 3
Ulysses S. Grant 3
Rutherford B Hayes 2
James Garfield 2
Chester A Arthur 2
Grover Cleveland 4
Benjamin Harrison 2
William McKinley 3
Theodore Roosevelt 7
William H Taft 3
Woodrow Wilson 1
Calvin Coolidge 2
Franklin Delano Roosevelt 3
Harry S. Truman 3
Dwight D Eisenhower 6
John Fitzgerald Kennedy 2
Lyndon Baines Johnson 3
Richard Nixon 3
Ronald Reagan 2
George Bush 1
Barack Obama 1

+ Adams For having his rival become his VP and not losing it while in office
- Buchanan for the Civil War

Eliminated:
William Henry Harrison
James Buchanan

Herbert Hoover
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton
George W Bush

[StLucieBengal]

George Washington 6
John Adams 3
Thomas Jefferson 5
James Madison 5
James Monroe 3
John Quincy Adams 1
Martin Van Buren 3
John Tyler 3
James Knox Polk 3
Zachary Taylor 2
Millard Fillmore 1
Franklin Pierce 1
Abraham Lincoln 3
Ulysses S. Grant 3
Rutherford B Hayes 2
James Garfield 2
Chester A Arthur 2
Grover Cleveland 4
Benjamin Harrison 2
William McKinley 3
Theodore Roosevelt 7
William H Taft 3
Calvin Coolidge 3
Franklin Delano Roosevelt 3
Harry S. Truman 3
Dwight D Eisenhower 6
John Fitzgerald Kennedy 2
Lyndon Baines Johnson 3
Richard Nixon 3
Ronald Reagan 2
George Bush 1
Barack Obama 1

+ coolidge - for getting gov out of the way leading to prosperity

- wilson - for promoting the KKK ... And it feels good to eliminate this guy.

Eliminated:
Woodrow Wilson
William Henry Harrison
James Buchanan
Herbert Hoover
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton
George W Bush

[Johnny Cupcakes]

Damn! Bill Clinton, one of the best presidents that we've ever had, has been eliminated? Bogus.

[jmccracky]

George Washington 6
John Adams 3
Thomas Jefferson 5
James Madison 5
James Monroe 3
John Quincy Adams 1
Martin Van Buren 3
John Tyler 3
James Knox Polk 3
Zachary Taylor 2
Millard Fillmore 1
Franklin Pierce 1
Abraham Lincoln 3
Ulysses S. Grant 3
Rutherford B Hayes 2
James Garfield 2
Chester A Arthur 2
Grover Cleveland 4
Benjamin Harrison 2
William McKinley 3
Theodore Roosevelt 8
William H Taft 3
Calvin Coolidge 3
Franklin Delano Roosevelt 3
Harry S. Truman 3
Dwight D Eisenhower 6
John Fitzgerald Kennedy 2
Lyndon Baines Johnson 3
Richard Nixon 3
Ronald Reagan 1
George Bush 1
Barack Obama 1

-1 Reagan- For trickle down
+1 Teddy Roosevelt- Military badass.

Eliminated:
Woodrow Wilson
William Henry Harrison
James Buchanan
Herbert Hoover
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton
George W Bush

[jmccracky]

(07-19-2015, 03:27 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: Damn! Bill Clinton, one of the best presidents that we've ever had, has been eliminated?  Bogus.

I know, right? I was late to the game. I would have given him a point. :angry:

[Johnny Cupcakes]

(07-19-2015, 05:59 PM)CharvelPlaya Wrote: I know, right? I was late to the game. I would have given him a point. :angry:

I did actually expect most of the recent presidents to be eliminated early on in the game, considering that these are the guys that we all know the most about and have formed strong opinions on.

Only 4 presidents from the last 50 years remain, and Nixon is somehow the one farthest away from elimination.

[Johnny Cupcakes]

George Washington 6
John Adams 3
Thomas Jefferson 5
James Madison 5
James Monroe 3
John Quincy Adams 1
Martin Van Buren 3
John Tyler 3
James Knox Polk 3
Zachary Taylor 2
Franklin Pierce 1
Abraham Lincoln 3
Ulysses S. Grant 3
Rutherford B Hayes 2
James Garfield 2
Chester A Arthur 2
Grover Cleveland 4
Benjamin Harrison 2
William McKinley 3
Theodore Roosevelt 8
William H Taft 3
Calvin Coolidge 3
Franklin Delano Roosevelt 3
Harry S. Truman 3
Dwight D Eisenhower 6
John Fitzgerald Kennedy 2
Lyndon Baines Johnson 3
Richard Nixon 3
Ronald Reagan 1
George Bush 1
Barack Obama 2

-1 Millard Fillmore - One of the invisible presidents that never really knew much about. He opposed immigration as the leader of the Know Nothings. Kinda forced the modern two party system (that sucks balls) into existence.
+1 Barack Obama - Socialized healthcare is a good thing, and he started us on that path. Every citizen deserves to have their health assured, and since it wasn't like that in a capitalist system, having the government step in is great. Though Obama has not done as much for it as I had hoped.

Eliminated:
Andrew Jackson
Andrew Johnson
Warren G. Harding
Woodrow Wilson
William Henry Harrison
James Buchanan
Herbert Hoover
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton
George W Bush
Millard Fillmore