Trump: Putin is telling the truth, former intel heads are "hacks"

[GMDino]

(11-13-2017, 01:31 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Post all cases of Russians changing votes or Russians voting.    

There have been numerous cases of illegals from Central America voting.   Since they are foreign nationals can we also say Central American countries were meddling in our elections.   Since they have their people voting in the USA they are more of a threat than the “Russians”

(11-13-2017, 03:42 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Corrupting our election can only happen if they changed votes or voted.  

Running adverts isn’t corruption.  

More examples of Mexico corrupting our elections than Russia at this point.

Proof?  Or is this just being an apologist for Mother Russia?

[Belsnickel]

(11-13-2017, 03:42 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Corrupting our election can only happen if they changed votes or voted.

Running adverts isn’t corruption.

More examples of Mexico corrupting our elections than Russia at this point.

Targeted misinformation in an effort to influence the outcome of an election is absolutely corruption of the democratic process.

[*bfine32*]

(11-13-2017, 04:06 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Targeted misinformation in an effort to influence the outcome of an election is absolutely corruption of the democratic process.

Then we can pretty much consider every person that ever ran for elected office, and ran an advertising campaign, corrupt.

[Belsnickel]

(11-13-2017, 04:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Then we can pretty much consider every person that ever ran for elected office, and ran an advertising campaign, corrupt.

I don't disagree, but overall we seem to be fine with it in this country when it is our own people. At least up until this past election, we have drawn the line at foreign influence on the election.

[Vlad]

(11-13-2017, 05:53 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't disagree, but overall we seem to be fine with it in this country when it is our own people. At least up until this past election, we have drawn the line at foreign influence on the election.

And we're ok  when its our own people like this scumbag attempting to influence foreign elections. Any lines drawn yet?
How you guys quickly forget.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

[StLucieBengal]

(11-13-2017, 03:48 PM)GMDino Wrote: Proof?  Or is this just being an apologist for Mother Russia?

Plenty of cases of illegals voting.

[BmorePat87]

(11-13-2017, 03:42 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Corrupting our election can only happen if they changed votes or voted.  

Running adverts isn’t corruption.  

More examples of Mexico corrupting our elections than Russia at this point.

At least you're now admitting that they ran fake news ads instead of accusing people of thinking Russians voted when they mention the ads. 

I agree with the intelligence community on this one. I don't see any evidence to suggest your assertion about Mexico is true.

[BmorePat87]

(11-13-2017, 08:11 PM)Vlad Wrote: And we're ok  when its our own people like this scumbag attempting to influence foreign elections. Any lines drawn yet?
How you guys quickly forget.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

Matt already denounced this when it was brought up hours ago. 

[Vlad]

(11-13-2017, 08:19 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Plenty of cases of illegals voting.

About illegals voting.

Gee..upwards to 30 million illegals by some estimates and not a single one voted.
Must commend illegals for obeying our countries laws...oh wait.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

[Benton]

(11-13-2017, 08:50 PM)Vlad Wrote: About illegals voting.

Gee..upwards to 30 million illegals by some estimates and not a single one voted.
Must commend illegals for obeying our countries laws...oh wait.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

Editorials citing studies that take such hard lines as "may have" and "might" don't really do much to support the claims. 

[BmorePat87]

(11-13-2017, 08:50 PM)Vlad Wrote: About illegals voting.

Gee..upwards to 30 million illegals by some estimates and not a single one voted.
Must commend illegals for obeying our countries laws...oh wait.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

30m illegal immigrants? I've never seen a number as high as 15m.

[StLucieBengal]

(11-13-2017, 08:28 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: At least you're now admitting that they ran fake news ads instead of accusing people of thinking Russians voted when they mention the ads. 

I agree with the intelligence community on this one. I don't see any evidence to suggest your assertion about Mexico is true.

It was confirmed they paid for ads through BLM to sow distrust amount citizens.. I will admit that because it’s a fact.

As for illegals voting. Don’t have he patience to find them all but here are some stories .

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/30/illegals-in-virginia-registered-vote-in-elections/

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/illegal-voting-gets-texas-woman-8-years-in-prison-and-certain-deportation.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/amp/peru-native-who-voted-illegally-two-u-s-elections-now-n746721

[BmorePat87]

(11-14-2017, 02:37 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: It was confirmed they paid for ads through BLM to sow distrust amount citizens..   I will admit that because it’s a fact.  

As for illegals voting.  Don’t have he patience to find them all but here are some stories .  

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/30/illegals-in-virginia-registered-vote-in-elections/

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/illegal-voting-gets-texas-woman-8-years-in-prison-and-certain-deportation.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/amp/peru-native-who-voted-illegally-two-u-s-elections-now-n746721

It was more than BLM.

So we have someone told by the DMV they could vote, someone who entered the US as an infant and was told her whole life she was actually a legal citizen, and then speculation that 1,000 people illegally voted in 2012.

Nothing about 2016. Nothing to suggest anything occurred at significant numbers. 

[StLucieBengal]

(11-14-2017, 09:22 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: It was more than BLM.

So we have someone told by the DMV they could vote, someone who entered the US as an infant and was told her whole life she was actually a legal citizen, and then speculation that 1,000 people illegally voted in 2012.

Nothing about 2016. Nothing to suggest anything occurred at significant numbers. 

Ah yes it was United Muslim Americans as well. So the Russians funded ads for BLM and Muslim groups. Ads that were targeted to fracture the citizenry.

There are plenty of accounts of voter fraud. Feel free to look them up.

[BmorePat87]

(11-14-2017, 11:05 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Ah yes it was United Muslim Americans as well.   So the Russians funded ads for BLM and Muslim groups.   Ads that were targeted to fracture the citizenry.  

And numerous ads targeting conservatives. Don't let that get in the way of your continued disingenuity 

Quote:There are plenty of accounts of voter fraud.   Feel free to look them up.

Feel free to post any accounts of voter fraud in the last election