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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507361-trump-uses-rose-garden-event-to-attack-biden
Tl;dr: Trump used a Rose Garden press conference as a campaign-type address. What The Hill doesn't point out is that is could be a violation of the Hatch Act for him to do this.
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(07-15-2020, 09:09 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507361-trump-uses-rose-garden-event-to-attack-biden
Tl;dr: Trump used a Rose Garden press conference as a campaign-type address. What The Hill doesn't point out is that is could be a violation of the Hatch Act for him to do this.
Not the first time and won't be the last.
Trump is desperate for a crowd and he can call for a "press conference" anytime he chooses. I wish people wouldn't cover them when he turns it into a campaign rally, and some channels will cut away when he gets off the announced topic.
One thing I heard this morning is that it wasn't even a GOOD rally. Nothing was coherent and nothing stuck to Biden. Trump is scared and slipping.
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https://apnews.com/92101adb72954a0d88dfa5dfdba6252b
Quote:What’s allowed and not allowed under the Hatch Act
June 13, 2019
in the Cabinet Room of the White House, Thursday, June 13, 2019, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal watchdog agency says Kellyanne Conway, counselor to President Donald Trump, has repeatedly violated a law known as the Hatch Act that limits political activity by federal workers. The U.S. Office of Special Counsel recommended her firing while the White House called the independent agency’s actions “unprecedented” and “deeply flawed.”
More information about the Hatch Act:
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE HATCH ACT?
Congress approved the Hatch Act in 1939 to limit partisan activity by federal employees to ensure the government functions fairly and effectively.
WHAT ACTIVITIES ARE PROHIBITED?
Running for office in partisan elections, sending or forwarding a partisan political email while on duty or in a federal workplace, engaging in political activity while wearing an official uniform or while using a government vehicle, using official authority to interfere with or influence an election, soliciting or receiving political contributions, wearing or displaying partisan political buttons, T-shirts or signs.
WHAT ACTIVITIES ARE ALLOWED?
Voting however one chooses, contributing money to campaigns or political parties, attending political rallies and meetings, expressing opinions about candidates and issues. If the activity is directed at the success or failure of a party or candidate, then the expression is not permitted while the employee is on duty.
WHO IS COVERED BY THE HATCH ACT?
All civilian employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president and the vice president.
ARE THERE EXCEPTIONS?
Certain executive officials, such as presidential advisers or cabinet officers, can engage in political activities during official working time as long as federal funds are not used. Any such official must reimburse the U.S. Treasury for federal resources used in campaign activities.
WHAT SANCTIONS OCCUR FOR VIOLATIONS?
Career government officials found to have violated the Hatch Act can be fired, suspended or demoted, and fined up to $1,000.
And again with this president we have a case where the norms are out the window because he doesn't give a damn about rules and laws and such just what is best for him.
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(07-15-2020, 01:25 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://apnews.com/92101adb72954a0d88dfa5dfdba6252b
And again with this president we have a case where the norms are out the window because he doesn't give a damn about rules and laws and such just what is best for him.
The President is not covered under tha Hatch Act according to your link.
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Trump actually said Hunter Biden never had a job before the Ukraine incident.
How does he get away with saying stuff like that?
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(07-15-2020, 01:37 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The President is not covered under tha Hatch Act according to your link.
Correct. That is why I said "norms" and laws. Trump cares nothing for either.
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(07-15-2020, 01:38 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Trump actually said Hunter Biden never had a job before the Ukraine incident.
How does he get away with saying stuff like that?
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(07-15-2020, 01:37 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The President is not covered under tha Hatch Act according to your link.
Indeed. I do know that there are FEC violations that could take place if the campaign doesn't compensate the government for resources used campaigning. All that shit is too complicated.
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ivanka-trumps-social-media-posts-goya-beans-provoke/story?id=71795732
This may not be a violation as she can argue it's a personal account, but that's the issue with having your family work for you. Where does work end and personal begin?
Also, I'm sure this is the first time she has ever held a Goya product.
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Was Michelle Obama exploiting Goya when the company partnered with her on her MyPlate initiative?
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(07-15-2020, 04:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Was Michelle Obama exploiting Goya when the company partnered with her on her MyPlate initiative?
Was she advertising for them from the Oval Office? Did an event happen in the Rose Garden?
Was she President?
So many questions!
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(07-15-2020, 03:33 PM)GMDino Wrote:
LAW AND ORDER!
Remember when some people ripped Hillary just for saying she liked hot sauce??
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(07-15-2020, 04:58 PM)GMDino Wrote: Was she advertising for them from the Oval Office? Did an event happen in the Rose Garden?
Was she President?
So many questions!
And yet the ONE I asked went unanswered.
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(07-15-2020, 05:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: And yet the ONE I asked went unanswered.
Not at all. You question was unrelated to this thread. My questions answered yours. Just takes a second to realize that.
To more clear: NO. The first lady inviting a company to participate in her program is not the same as the POTUS advertising for a product from the oval office with the product on his desk like it's an infomercial.
Not the same. Not even close.
But saying "Obama" is just a way of saying there is no defense for what Trump does.
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(07-15-2020, 05:18 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Remember when some people ripped Hillary just for saying she liked hot sauce??
Trump has never eaten any of that. He's no better than a paid spokesperson on late night television.
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(07-15-2020, 05:24 PM)GMDino Wrote: Not at all. You question was unrelated to this thread. My questions answered yours. Just takes a second to realize that.
To more clear: NO. The first lady inviting a company to participate in her program is not the same as the POTUS advertising for a product from the oval office with the product on his desk like it's an infomercial.
Not the same. Not even close.
But saying "Obama" is just a way of saying there is no defense for what Trump does.
I just reviewed the OP and saw no mention of the word Goya, so was posting his daughter hold a can related to the OP?
As to Trump promoting the product> Great I understand they company has raised over $100,000 in short order to help under privileged families while triggered folks such as AOC call for a boycott because the owner stated he supports POTUS and this country.
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(07-15-2020, 05:18 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Remember when some people ripped Hillary just for saying she liked hot sauce??
I remember but she didn't say she liked it; she said she always had a bottle in her purse. That shit was 2funny.
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