Utah woman pleads guilty to lewdness for being topless in her own home

[GMDino]

I searched and didn't find where this was originally posted but there is a result and it's as dumb as I imagined it would be.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/02/25/utah-woman-pleads-guilty/

Quote:A Utah woman who faced charges for being topless in her own home in front of her stepchildren has taken a plea bargain.


The stakes were just too high for Tilli Buchanan to take the criminal case to trial, her attorney, Randy Richards, said Tuesday.


She initially was charged with three counts of class A misdemeanor lewdness involving a child, accused of exposing her breasts to her stepchildren several years ago. The charges had especially weighty consequence: If convicted, she would have been required to be on the sex offender registry for 10 years.

Richards said he had advised his client to take the deal.


“She would have loved to take it up on appeal,” he said, “but it was pretty much at my advice that she not — not because I don’t think she would win, but there’s a possibility that if we go all the way to trial, she’d be convicted by a jury and then she had to be on the sex offender registry.”


Buchanan instead resolved her case Tuesday by admitting to one charge of class B misdemeanor lewdness. She did not admit in plea agreement documents to any crimes involving children, but did say she exposed her breasts in front of an adult which “caused affront or alarm.”


The plea will be held in abeyance, meaning the charge will be dismissed after a year if Buchanan does not commit any new crimes and pays $600.
Richards called the ending of the case “ludicrous,” noting that his client pleaded guilty to essentially being topless in front of her husband.

But he promised that Buchanan would be bringing a civil lawsuit against West Valley City.


“This whole thing is ridiculous,” he said. “She [or other women] have to worry about their kids seeing them topless? It’s ridiculous.”.


West Valley City prosecutors defended the criminal charges.


“This case has never been about nudity in one’s home. Instead it is about the responsibility we have towards others,” West Valley City Attorney Ryan Robinson said, adding the case was resolved “when Ms. Buchanan took responsibility for her actions.”


Buchanan’s plea ends a case that drew national attention and comes at the heels of a judge’s decision last month to uphold Utah’s lewdness law.
Buchanan’s legal team had asked 3rd District Judge Kara Pettit to find Utah’s lewdness statute unconstitutional, arguing that it discriminates against women by making it illegal for them to show their breasts, when it is not illegal for a man to be topless.

Buchanan’s attorneys leaned on a recent 10th Circuit Court ruling, which sided with two Colorado women who sued the city of Fort Collins. The women are part of “Free the Nipple Fort Collins,” a group arguing that the city’s ban on female toplessness violated their right to equal protection.
But Pettit ruled that the ordinance in Colorado and Utah’s lewdness statute were “significantly different.”


In Fort Collins, the ordinance outlawed a woman from showing her breasts in public. It did not include language indicating that exposure was unlawful for men, and it did not require any specific intent or mental state.


The portion of the law that Buchanan is charged under is much different, Pettit ruled. It prohibits lewd behavior by both women and men in front of children, and also requires prosecutors to show that the defendant exposed themselves and knew their actions would either cause “affront or alarm” to the children or “with the intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desires” of either party.


The American Civil Liberties Union of Utah, who joined Buchanan’s case last November, said Tuesday that its lawyers are consulting with Buchanan and her attorneys about pursing a civil case that would overturn the lewdness statute she was originally charged under
Buchanan told The Salt Lake Tribune in September that she had been installing insulation with her husband in their garage on the day of the incident. The couple had removed their clothes just inside their home to get the itchy materials off their skin. She was topless when her stepchildren came downstairs and saw them.

She said her stepchildren seemed embarrassed — but Buchanan told them they shouldn’t treat her differently because she was a woman. She told them a woman’s chest wasn’t inherently sexual, and that if they were comfortable seeing their dad’s chest, it shouldn’t be different for her.
But West Valley City prosecutors say the situation wasn’t quite that innocent. They accuse Buchanan of stripping down in front of her stepchildren after making a statement about how if her husband could take off his shirt, then a woman should be able to as well.


They further allege that Buchanan, while “under the influence of alcohol,” had told her husband that she would only put her shirt back on if he showed her his penis.


The police became involved in the situation after the Division of Child and Family Services began an investigation involving the children that was unrelated to Buchanan. Though it was not the focus of the initial investigation, prosecutors say in court papers, the children’s mother reported the incident to authorities.

So dumb.  But then Utah just moved to say men can have multiple wives legally again so....

[BengalHawk62]

Pics or it didn’t happen.

[Belsnickel]

(02-27-2020, 01:42 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: Pics or it didn’t happen.

I clicked on the article link and, I have to say, I wouldn't mind if she was lewd around me. Just sayin'.

[BmorePat87]

She was also drunk and tried to get her husband to expose his penis before she would put a shirt on.

The charges for the plea deal are ridiculous, though.

[GMDino]

(02-28-2020, 10:11 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: She was also drunk and tried to get her husband to expose his penis before she would put a shirt on.

The charges for the plea deal are ridiculous, though.

That is what she was charged with.  She says it didn't happen that way.

The entire thing is ridiculous but America (especially places like Utah) care more about bare breasts than most anything else.  And the emphasis that she was "drinking" during it just shows the Mormon influence out there.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(02-27-2020, 12:04 PM)GMDino Wrote: I searched and didn't find where this was originally posted but there is a result and it's as dumb as I imagined it would be.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/02/25/utah-woman-pleads-guilty/



So dumb.  But then Utah just moved to say men can have multiple wives legally again so....

So what if they can? More power to them if they can juggle more than one at a time and it's a consensual agreement. It's not like the women are forced. That I have an issue with.

(02-28-2020, 10:11 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: She was also drunk and tried to get her husband to expose his penis before she would put a shirt on.

The charges for the plea deal are ridiculous, though.

Yea, that one made me chuckle. Seems to me she was maybe being flirty, and I'm not sure where that came from.
It's a big case of he said/she said her vs the kids seems like. No mention of the husband defending her or the kids sides.

(02-28-2020, 10:14 AM)GMDino Wrote: That is what she was charged with.  She says it didn't happen that way.

The entire thing is ridiculous but America (especially places like Utah) care more about bare breasts than most anything else.  And the emphasis that she was "drinking" during it just shows the Mormon influence out there.

I don't think it has much to do with Utah or the Mormons. It was a jealous mother that seems to have the problem and that can happen in any state/religion. And the 13 yr old boy was aroused by seeing them?? Shoot at 13 I was aroused when the wind blew, so that's not news.

I'm thinking maybe there is a custody issue involved here and the Mother is using any leverage she can to make the father look bad. Or just a plain old revenge thing if the Step Mom got involved with the father as was the reason for the Divorce. Who knows, to many variables.

All I know for sure, is that I'm am a supporter for "free the nipple".

[fredtoast]

This is a much bigger problem than most of you realize.

If you spent as much time on Pornhub as I do you would realize that all stepparents do is screw their stepkids all day long.

[hollodero]

Jeeeez @that whole case.

There are times where it seems America outright wants the rest of the world to make fun of them.

(02-28-2020, 02:43 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This is a much bigger problem than most of you realize.

If you spent as much time on Pornhub as I do you would realize that all stepparents do is screw their stepkids all day long.

That concurs with my observation. And those stepkids still have resources to also tap their stepsiblings nonstop. Lots of patchwork in those families.

- But this still only starts after the kids turn 18.

[Benton]

Eh, I dunno.

It's trivial most likely, but I'm assuming the bio mom brought the issue up? As a parent I wouldn't want a naked adult running around in front of my kids. I don't walk around the house with my dong hanging out. One, because my kids don't need to see that. And, two, I don't want to break any furniture or accidentally maim one of the pets. 20 pounds of swinging Jimmy would break a lot of lamps.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(02-28-2020, 02:54 PM)Benton Wrote: Eh, I dunno.

It's trivial most likely, but I'm assuming the bio mom brought the issue up? As a parent I wouldn't want a naked adult running around in front of my kids. I don't walk around the house with my dong hanging out. One, because my kids don't need to see that. And, two, I don't want to break any furniture or accidentally maim one of the pets. 20 pounds of swinging Jimmy would break a lot of lamps.

Well yes of course, if you're gonna run around swinging your 20 lb DOG around it will break somethings, probably him to.

[SunsetBengal]

Follow stupid religions and allow them to influence your State's laws, you win stupid prizes..

And, Bels' makes a great point, as the pic from the article shows that she definitely has the goods to display.

[*michaelsean*]

(02-28-2020, 02:43 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This is a much bigger problem than most of you realize.

If you spent as much time on Pornhub as I do you would realize that all stepparents do is screw their stepkids all day long.

When the step kids aren’t banging each other.

[HarleyDog]

(02-28-2020, 04:43 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Well yes of course, if you're gonna run around swinging your 20 lb DOG around it will break somethings.

 

HarleyDog!

[HarleyDog]

Breasts should not be offensive to anyone. I agree they should have the same right as men, but I don't stare at men, but probably would stare (at first) at women who walked around shirtless. However, our society was raised as those puppies need to be hidden. So, we are aroused when seen ( although I could almost assure no arousement at Walmart).

Then again, after reading what I wrote, I think I would have an issue with my wife walking around topless. Again, probably how society raised us. I guess if I wasn't attracted to her and the marriage was bad, I would pray someone stole her from me. But it's not and I want to be the sole person who takes enjoyment of those breasts.