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Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - GMDino - 05-17-2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/special-counsel-robert-mueller/index.html Quote:The Justice Department on Wednesday appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to oversee the federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, including potential collusion between President Donald Trump's campaign associates and Russian officials. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - Bengalzona - 05-17-2017 RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - Bengalzona - 05-17-2017 On a serious note, this is good news for everyone involved. He is non-political, has bipartisan respect and has a no-nonsense approach that will get to the bottom of the investigation quickly and thoroughly. Whether the admin did nothing wrong or did do something wrong, he is the man to find out and end this one way or another. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - 6andcounting - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 08:52 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: On a serious note, this is good news for everyone involved. He is non-political, has bipartisan respect and has a no-nonsense approach that will get to the bottom of the investigation quickly and thoroughly. Whether the admin did nothing wrong or did do something wrong, he is the man to find out and end this one way or another. Him being the right person to do this investigation doesn't mean anything because either side is going to complain and disparage him based solely on if they like his findings. If he returns an outcome favorable to the left, the left will take what he said an exaggerate it 10 fold. If he says something favorable to Trump, the left will say it's another huge conspiracy and demand he be fired. Then a month later when Trump fires him the left will have an epic meltdown saying it's part of a cover up conspiracy. A fair and thorough investigation that truly brings every question to a close won't shut anyone up because the BS they keep screaming about was never fueled by evidence or reason anyways. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - GMDino - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 09:53 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Him being the right person to do this investigation doesn't mean anything because either side is going to complain and disparage him based solely on if they like his findings. If he returns an outcome favorable to the left, the left will take what he said an exaggerate it 10 fold. If he says something favorable to Trump, the left will say it's another huge conspiracy and demand he be fired. Then a month later when Trump fires him the left will have an epic meltdown saying it's part of a cover up conspiracy. A fair and thorough investigation that truly brings every question to a close won't shut anyone up because the BS they keep screaming about was never fueled by evidence or reason anyways. "either side" Indeed. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - CageTheBengal - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 09:53 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Him being the right person to do this investigation doesn't mean anything because either side is going to complain and disparage him based solely on if they like his findings. If he returns an outcome favorable to the left, the left will take what he said an exaggerate it 10 fold. If he says something favorable to Trump, the left will say it's another huge conspiracy and demand he be fired. Then a month later when Trump fires him the left will have an epic meltdown saying it's part of a cover up conspiracy. A fair and thorough investigation that truly brings every question to a close won't shut anyone up because the BS they keep screaming about was never fueled by evidence or reason anyways. Everybody? Or just the left? RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - bfine32 - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 09:53 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Him being the right person to do this investigation doesn't mean anything because either side is going to complain and disparage him based solely on if they like his findings. If he returns an outcome favorable to the left, the left will take what he said an exaggerate it 10 fold. If he says something favorable to Trump, the left will say it's another huge conspiracy and demand he be fired. Then a month later when Trump fires him the left will have an epic meltdown saying it's part of a cover up conspiracy. A fair and thorough investigation that truly brings every question to a close won't shut anyone up because the BS they keep screaming about was never fueled by evidence or reason anyways. It's the perfect storm. The Left lost unexpectedly and they are pissed and the POTUS is just petty enough to care what they say. When Obama won twice the Right was pissed for about a week then they realized, we need to get back to work. The Left has no such compulsion. As to the OP: If it is found that Trump tried to halt an FBI investigation for personal gain he should be impeached and leave office in disgrace. If it is found that he shared information as Commander In Chief with Russians that put any American lives in danger, he should be hanged. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - CageTheBengal - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 10:15 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It's the perfect storm. The Left lost unexpectedly and they are pissed and the POTUS is just petty enough to care what they say. Whatever helps you sleep at night. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - Bengalzona - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 09:53 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Him being the right person to do this investigation doesn't mean anything because either side is going to complain and disparage him based solely on if they like his findings. If he returns an outcome favorable to the left, the left will take what he said an exaggerate it 10 fold. If he says something favorable to Trump, the left will say it's another huge conspiracy and demand he be fired. Then a month later when Trump fires him the left will have an epic meltdown saying it's part of a cover up conspiracy. A fair and thorough investigation that truly brings every question to a close won't shut anyone up because the BS they keep screaming about was never fueled by evidence or reason anyways. Personally, I don't really care what the result turns out to be. Just as long as someone reliable and impartial is looking into it. If the admin is clean, let's get this done as quick as possible. If it is dirty, let's get that done as quick as possible as well. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - 6andcounting - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 10:09 PM)GMDino Wrote: "either side" Awe, you didn't like my example because it wasn't favorable to your side. How left of you. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - bfine32 - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 10:33 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: I need absolutely no help sleeping at night. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - Benton - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 09:53 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Him being the right person to do this investigation doesn't mean anything because either side is going to complain and disparage him based solely on if they like his findings. If he returns an outcome favorable to the left, the left will take what he said an exaggerate it 10 fold. If he says something favorable to Trump, the left will say it's another huge conspiracy and demand he be fired. Then a month later when Trump fires him the left will have an epic meltdown saying it's part of a cover up conspiracy. A fair and thorough investigation that truly brings every question to a close won't shut anyone up because the BS they keep screaming about was never fueled by evidence or reason anyways. Extremists are on both sides. A real investigation and not just a show for confidence should be enough, either way, for a lot of people to make up their mind. (05-17-2017, 10:15 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It's the perfect storm. The Left lost unexpectedly and they are pissed and the POTUS is just petty enough to care what they say. Wha...? http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/23/the-party-of-no-new-details-on-the-gop-plot-to-obstruct-obama/ http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/republican-party-obstructionism-victory-trump-214498 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/27/new-party-no-dems-prepare-for-battle-with-trump-on-cabinet-picks-agenda.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - Benton - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 10:33 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Personally, I don't really care what the result turns out to be. Just as long as someone reliable and impartial is looking into it. If the admin is clean, let's get this done as quick as possible. If it is dirty, let's get that done as quick as possible as well. I think that's the majority of people. Whatever the result is, just get it over with. People are tired of politics. Stuff needs fixed. If this is politics, get it done with and out of the administration's way. On the other hand, if there really is a fire, then get the administration out of the way. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - GMDino - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 10:53 PM)Benton Wrote: I think that's the majority of people. Whatever the result is, just get it over with. My boss, who is as republican as they come, said HE is tired of Trump...said Trump is nothing more than a distraction from getting anything done like infrastructure and tax reform. That's the best you'll get from the right. "He's still better than Clinton" is their mantra. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - bfine32 - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 10:50 PM)Benton Wrote: Wha...? Of course Politicians differ; I've said this many times before (it must have gotten deleted) and that is not the hysteria I am referring to. If you want to suggest the reaction by the media and the public is anywhere near the same then just say so. I say we have never seen a reaction to a Presidential Election like this. What say you? RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - Benton - 05-17-2017 (05-17-2017, 11:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of course Politicians differ; I've said this many times before (it must have gotten deleted) and that is not the hysteria I am referring to. The media is a popular target, but that's shifting the blame, which resides squarely with both parties playing politics. So is blaming the public (whether people are talking about ignorant voters or voter fraud or whatever manipulation of the facts the situation calls for). The reaction to Trump from the left is no different than the reaction to Obama from the right. Birthers, muslim accusations, satanism, his role as a 9/11 hijacker, his role as a Christian radical... It was ridiculous. So was the reaction by career politicians like Mitch McConnell who — along with others — vowed not to work with the guy just because he was... not Mitch McConnell. The difference with Obama's far right beyond silly accusations is that at most he went to a church with a radical Christian pastor (how that qualified him as a Muslim, I'm not sure); as most (so far) with Trump is several members of his campaign in close ties with Russian officials, and — according to the guy most recently investigating the issue — an order from Trump that it not be investigated. That's not overreaction. Overreaction is a reality television personality claiming the POTUS is born in another country so often that politicians looking to make a name for themselves ask for information they already have. Overreaction is when someone being admired is perceived negatively, so people actually say public employees who spent eight years on strike because they didn't like a co-worker were actually getting their jobs done. Overreaction is dismissing all the smoke because the fire would force some to admit they were wrong. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - bfine32 - 05-18-2017 (05-17-2017, 11:53 PM)Benton Wrote: The media is a popular target, but that's shifting the blame, which resides squarely with both parties playing politics. So is blaming the public (whether people are talking about ignorant voters or voter fraud or whatever manipulation of the facts the situation calls for). If I were trying to draw similarities I would not bring in opposing politician's reaction. For instance: how long was Obama POTUS before others starting calling for Impeachment? I think Trump made it about a week. As to the rest: I'll take that as a long yes, that you think the reaction is similar. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - Vas Deferens - 05-18-2017 "It must have gotten(sic) deleted". Seen others hammered for less insubordination in the past. Apparently some don't appreciate what they have or feel entitled to more... RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - wildcats forever - 05-18-2017 For those of you who continue to go off-topic, please refresh your memory on this one: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-BengalsBoard-Code-of-Conduct Thank you for your cooperation. RE: Special counsel appointed in Russia probe - Belsnickel - 05-18-2017 I've been saying for a while that I wanted special counsel/prosecutor involved so that we could get this over and done with. I'm tried of it because it is distracting our lawmakers from work they should be doing. It's kind of like the Benghazi thing where it was investigated by Congress longer than 9/11 and it was only because elected officials wanted to look like they were doing something. I'm not saying any of these investigations were/are not important, but we have had a dysfunctional Congress for far to long, and whether or not Trump has done anything wrong, he hasn't shown himself to be a competent government official and so we need Congress to be doing their jobs. |