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Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 What a damn shame. What is wrong with people? http://fox17.com/news/local/fox-17-investigates-child-sex-slave-in-nashville-prison-for-killing-man-who-used-her Quote:NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WZTV) — UPDATE: Video at the link. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - michaelsean - 11-21-2017 Just to make sure I'm clear. She was being used as a prostitute against her will, and therefore being raped? Sounds like a legit killing to me. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 02:39 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Just to make sure I'm clear. She was being used as a prostitute against her will, and therefore being raped? Sounds like a legit killing to me. Welcome to TN. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - Millhouse - 11-21-2017 Stories like hers make me wonder why they include the word justice in 'criminal justice system' they widely use. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - JustWinBaby - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 05:13 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Stories like hers make me wonder why they include the word justice in 'criminal justice system' they widely use. Although I wonder if we would say the same about a 16-yr old boy who robbed a store so he could buy food, and then shot the owner when a scuffle ensued. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 06:14 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Although I wonder if we would say the same about a 16-yr old boy who robbed a store so he could buy food, and then shot the owner when a scuffle ensued. Seems a little different as the store owner wasn't doing anything wrong/illegal to the boy. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - bfine32 - 11-21-2017 Guess I'm missing something. If she were considered a sex-slave couldn't she still be tried for murder if she killed someone? I've saw nothing where the deceased forced her into anything; she simply said she was afraid of him because he was a sharpshooter in the Army; which really isn't all that great. Now I have no issue if the pimp and mom shared cells beneath the prison. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - Benton - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 06:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Guess I'm missing something. If she were considered a sex-slave couldn't she still be tried for murder if she killed someone? I've saw nothing where the deceased forced her into anything; she simply said she was afraid of him because he was a sharpshooter in the Army; which really isn't all that great. Quote:Cyntoia Brown was physically, sexually and verbally abused. Part of the issue for some of these girls/women is that the legal system prevents them from getting help. If you try to get out and go to the police — tell them you have been kidnapped or given to a sexual predator by your guardian — the system often ends up putting you back in that environment unless a crime has been committed. Crime, like prostitution? Well, this case helped change the fact in Tennessee, if you say that a person forced you into prostitution, legally, the police could charge the juvenile with prostitution. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - JustWinBaby - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 06:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: Seems a little different as the store owner wasn't doing anything wrong/illegal to the boy. And having sex with a prostitute doesn't justify being murdered. So you agree it would be different? Both put themselves into that situation, doing something illegal to feed themselves. Yet you're only viewing the woman as a victim who was forced into it? She committed murder. We can buy the battered woman defense or not, and perhaps we don't really know enough. But it's not necessarily crazy or "well, TN" that she was convicted. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - bfine32 - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 07:03 PM)Benton Wrote: Part of the issue for some of these girls/women is that the legal system prevents them from getting help. If you try to get out and go to the police — tell them you have been kidnapped or given to a sexual predator by your guardian — the system often ends up putting you back in that environment unless a crime has been committed. Crime, like prostitution? Well, this case helped change the fact in Tennessee, if you say that a person forced you into prostitution, legally, the police could charge the juvenile with prostitution. And if there were anything that pointed to the person she killed hitting, chocking, pointing a gun; then that would be justification to kill him. Seems those were totally separate statements to illustrate her way of life, not what happened on that evening. She simply said I was afraid and IF he did something. As I said: that's the part of the story I'm missing. If a kid grew up rough on the streets was beat, abused, and tortured. He was forced into the gang life as a juvenile because his dad and grandfather were in the gang. He goes in a robs a place and kills the cashier because the cashier is in a rival gang, a gang that had beat him up in the past. Is the kid responsible for murder? RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - Dill - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 07:16 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: And having sex with a prostitute doesn't justify being murdered. We can "buy" the juvenile defense too. It doesn't sound like this girl, forced into sex trafficking, killed the guy "for having sex." There might be degrees of victimhood here. But I don't see a very close analogy between a guy who threatens to rob someone else, even if the guy is threatended by his gang, and someone in fear of her life. If this girl set out to rob someone and killed him in the process, then the analogy to a store robber would hold. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - Mike M (the other one) - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 06:14 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Although I wonder if we would say the same about a 16-yr old boy who robbed a store so he could buy food, and then shot the owner when a scuffle ensued. Not quite the same degree. No one forced the boy to do that. He did it of his own free will, don't try moving the lines. Your argument is weak at best. (11-21-2017, 06:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Guess I'm missing something. If she were considered a sex-slave couldn't she still be tried for murder if she killed someone? I've saw nothing where the deceased forced her into anything; she simply said she was afraid of him because he was a sharpshooter in the Army; which really isn't all that great. Anyone that holding a gun at point blank range doesn't need to be a sharp shooter now do they? He used his status as a way to hold control over the girl. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 Always restores my faith to see people trying to find an excuse that makes someone raping and torturing a child at least a little bit okay. Really warms my heart. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - bfine32 - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 08:41 PM)GMDino Wrote: Always restores my faith to see people trying to find an excuse that makes someone raping and torturing a child at least a little bit okay. Quote anyone here that has tried to find an excuse to make raping and torturing a child a little bit okay. Otherwise just stick to the memes and trolling. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 08:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Quote anyone here that has tried to find an excuse to make raping and torturing a child a little bit okay. Really? Really? (11-21-2017, 06:14 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Although I wonder if we would say the same about a 16-yr old boy who robbed a store so he could buy food, and then shot the owner when a scuffle ensued. (11-21-2017, 06:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Guess I'm missing something. If she were considered a sex-slave couldn't she still be tried for murder if she killed someone? I've saw nothing where the deceased forced her into anything; she simply said she was afraid of him because he was a sharpshooter in the Army; which really isn't all that great. (11-21-2017, 07:16 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: And having sex with a prostitute doesn't justify being murdered. (11-21-2017, 07:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: And if there were anything that pointed to the person she killed hitting, chocking, pointing a gun; then that would be justification to kill him. Seems those were totally separate statements to illustrate her way of life, not what happened on that evening. She simply said I was afraid and IF he did something. As I said: that's the part of the story I'm missing. (11-21-2017, 08:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: ...just stick to the memes and trolling. Guess we just have a bunch of wannabe prosecuting attorney's.... Quote:Birman's film on Cyntoia helped change Tennessee law for children like her in 2011. Now, anyone 18 or younger can't even be charged with prostitution. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - bfine32 - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 09:08 PM)GMDino Wrote: Really? Really? So you can find nothing that makes it a little OK to torture and rape a child? The gist of the thread was if murder can be mitigated, which is exactly the opposite of the slant you try to put on the thread; however, this is to be expected as you often throw in an divisive post in efforts to degrade civil conversation, You do this because that you have displayed numerous times that you lack the acumen to participate in earnest discussion. So you have to try to turn the threads into one of petty insults so you can participate. But it's OK; you're in good with the establishment. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 09:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So you can find nothing that makes it a little OK to torture and rape a child? The gist of the thread was if murder can be mitigated, which is exactly the opposite of the slant you try to put on the thread; however, this is to be expected as you often throw in an divisive post in efforts to degrade civil conversation, You do this because that you have displayed numerous times that you lack the acumen to participate in earnest discussion. So you have to try to turn the threads into one of petty insults so you can participate. The gist of the thread is that the law was changed to protect girls like the victim in this case. Yet she is serving a life sentence. And there is something wrong with a society that does that to someone that was raped, abused and sold for sex. Nothing else should matter. And certainly nothing that tries to make it as if what she was going through wasn't "that bad". I mean she didn't have a gun ponted at her when she killed the guy...right? She might not even have been forced to have sex that night. Who knows? Right? RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - michaelsean - 11-21-2017 I guess it comes down to if the guy knew she was an unwilling participant. If he knew then he raped her. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 09:42 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I guess it comes down to if the guy knew she was an unwilling participant. If he knew then he raped her. Quote:Brown is convicted of murder for killing a Nashville realtor who'd bought her for sex. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - michaelsean - 11-21-2017 So do you think he knew? When it says bought her do they mean for a trick or actually bought her? If he knew she was unwilling I don’t have a problem with her killing her rapist. |