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Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - StLucieBengal - 03-13-2016 https://ca.news.yahoo.com/german-anti-immigration-party-celebrates-dizzying-rise-202547094.html 3 year old party Alternative for Germany makes massive gains. Anti Eurozone, Anti Immigration party surging as a response to Merkel's policies. We have seen these parties rise in France and even to Power in Portugal and Poland. Changing the European political landscape. Even UKIP has forced a referrendum on the EU for the Brits. Quote:MAGDEBURG, Germany (Reuters) - Supporters of Germany's new anti-immigration party erupted into raucous celebrations in this eastern city on Sunday after the Alternative for Germany (AfD) surged into three state assemblies with scores that would have been unthinkable only a year ago. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - GMDino - 03-13-2016 RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Belsnickel - 03-13-2016 Interestingly enough, this could cause more liberal parties to gain a hold in the government as AfD, seen as a new Nazi party by many, takes away from CDU. This could allow SPD to gain more ground. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Bengalzona - 03-14-2016 (03-13-2016, 11:04 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Interestingly enough, this could cause more liberal parties to gain a hold in the government as AfD, seen as a new Nazi party by many, takes away from CDU. This could allow SPD to gain more ground. SPD could be VIP ASAP or PDQ while AFD and CDU are SOL?!?!?! RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-14-2016 (03-13-2016, 09:32 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: "We fought like lions for your land," he said, dismissing Angela Merkel as "the worst chancellor in the history of Germany." Worst chancellor in German history is a hard crown to take. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Belsnickel - 03-14-2016 (03-14-2016, 01:59 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Worst chancellor in German history is a hard crown to take. Well, we are talking about someone from AfD saying this. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Rotobeast - 03-14-2016 Amazing how polarization spreads like a disease. Compromise is a dead practice. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Belsnickel - 03-14-2016 (03-14-2016, 12:58 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Amazing how polarization spreads like a disease. So, some of the folks I talk to from Germany have been saying they voted AfD not because they like AfD, but just to send a message to CDU. They wouldn't have voted for AfD if they thought there was any real chance they would have gained much power. As it stands now, they don't gain much at all in the way of federal government power. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - GMDino - 03-14-2016 (03-14-2016, 01:01 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, some of the folks I talk to from Germany have been saying they voted AfD not because they like AfD, but just to send a message to CDU. They wouldn't have voted for AfD if they thought there was any real chance they would have gained much power. As it stands now, they don't gain much at all in the way of federal government power. That's what the story on NPR made it sound like over the weekend. That their seats came in various parts of the country (more eastern). RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Belsnickel - 03-14-2016 (03-14-2016, 01:05 PM)GMDino Wrote: That's what the story on NPR made it sound like over the weekend. That their seats came in various parts of the country (more eastern). What this election did was increase their power in some of the state parliaments, and it gave them a seat at the table in the Bundestag. There are essentially two elections for the federal diet. Representatives are assigned based on local votes for their reps and then there are parties chosen for the other. It's about half and half like this, so half of the members of the Bundestag are assigned based upon their party as a whole receiving x% of the vote. The floor to be in is 5%, which AfD will now have. But, with 598 members of the Bundestag and the CDU/CSU alliance taking over 300 of those at the present, there isn't much ground gained here. Especially since the other parties already there, which are more liberal than AfD or the CDU/CSU group, are also gaining some ground. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - bfine32 - 03-14-2016 (03-14-2016, 12:23 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: SPD could be VIP ASAP or PDQ while AFD and CDU are SOL?!?!?! FWIW this made me LOL RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Belsnickel - 03-14-2016 Translation: "The effing sky is AfD blue" and the bottom means the next morning. And yes, Scheisse literally translates to shit but it is used as a flavor word that equates to the f-bomb for us. And it's because AfD's color is sky blue. I'm sure it isn't as funny once it's explained, but I went for it anyway. Is there any doubt, that Merkel is out? - SunsetBengal - 03-14-2016 Merkel's response to the sexual attacks in Germany is to teach migrants how to have sex with the native women? Don't think that the locals are going for it.. https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/10176074_745729452125974_6853327641443391726_n.jpg?oh=fda53bed8a370062687636ae36c4b8cc&oe=575B3BE2 RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Westwood Bengal - 03-15-2016 (03-14-2016, 03:06 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I am certainly not fluent in german, bit I think that there is also a play on words here. If I say Ich bin blau, I am saying I am drunk (or wasted), which helps explain the bottom caption. This certainly impacts the message. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Belsnickel - 03-15-2016 (03-15-2016, 12:40 AM)Westwood Bengal Wrote: I am certainly not fluent in german, bit I think that there is also a play on words here. If I say Ich bin blau, I am saying I am drunk (or wasted), which helps explain the bottom caption. This certainly impacts the message. Eh, none of the Germans talking about this were saying anything in regards to that. Lots of comparisons of Nazis and Hitler to the AfD, and some being obtuse and saying "the sky is sky blue, the AfD logo is sky blue..." and being mocked for it. Edit: Thought of this on my way in to the office. The sentence structure would be different for that wordplay. "AfD-Blau" is a descriptor of the blue, like Dunkelblau, Hellblau, or Himmelblau. Saying, essentially, drunk for AfD would be worded differently. Plus the capital B denotes it is a noun. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - StLucieBengal - 03-15-2016 (03-14-2016, 01:59 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Worst chancellor in German history is a hard crown to take. Haha for sure. RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - StLucieBengal - 03-15-2016 (03-14-2016, 01:01 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, some of the folks I talk to from Germany have been saying they voted AfD not because they like AfD, but just to send a message to CDU. They wouldn't have voted for AfD if they thought there was any real chance they would have gained much power. As it stands now, they don't gain much at all in the way of federal government power. I have seen this some as well . But a protest vote is how these groups get into power. Heck Trump is basically a lot of people's protest vote. The next step will be what happened in France. The other parties will fall on their own sword to elect one of them. Until the people just get fed up with the current policies. Wonder what caused this shift in vote ......... Oh all the incidents with migrants. Germans are fed up.... And the numbers increase daily of those utilizing the protest vote. RE: Is there any doubt, that Merkel is out? - StLucieBengal - 03-15-2016 Lol RE: Germany Elections: Moving to the Far Right? - Belsnickel - 03-15-2016 (03-15-2016, 08:07 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I have seen this some as well . But a protest vote is how these groups get into power. Heck Trump is basically a lot of people's protest vote. The problem with this is that the CDU/CSU is a center-right party. So while some Germans are shifting to the right, a lot are shifting to the left as well. Also, and this is a part of the culture that some people don't know, is that nationalism in Germany is a big social no-no these days. What we would call patriotism would get you some awkward looks from your fellow Germans. This creates a different atmosphere than in other European countries and makes it hard to compare to, say France. French people will tell you they are proud to be French. You will not get the same response from Germans for the most part. So, with the AfD playing that nationalist card it will hurt them unless we see a culture shift in the German people as a whole, which I think would be very difficult. RE: Is there any doubt, that Merkel is out? - Benton - 03-15-2016 I followed the link. Funny sign, but doesn't provide much on the topic. |