(01-24-2018, 06:11 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: There are racist actions and racist statements.   Calling a country a s-hole isn’t either of those.

(01-24-2018, 06:14 PM)GMDino Wrote: I guess I'm confused as to why they are s***holes to begin with.

Because they are poor?

Also is that a country that has a predominantly white population that one would refer to that way?  The whole country...not just a segment of it.

Quote:But a West Africa sociologist from Guinea agrees with President Trump. From Yahoo News:

"President Donald Trump is absolutely right. Africa is a continent of shit," says Mamady Traore, a 30-year-old sociologist in the West African nation of Guinea. "When you have heads of state who mess with the constitutions to perpetuate their power. When you have rebel factions that kill children, disembowel women as saints, who mutilate innocent civilians. Frankly, it must be said that it's crap."

(01-24-2018, 06:18 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Idk ask their residents.  


Btw the EU has its leaders messing with the constitution to perpetuate and increase their power.

(01-24-2018, 06:20 PM)GMDino Wrote: No.  I'm asking why the POTUS thinks they are and why some on here agree.

What definition is used for that description?

And does it also apply to countries that are more white?

(01-24-2018, 06:21 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Btw a good rule of thumb is would You take your family or a vacation to these countries.  

Doubtful many are going to Haiti, El Salvador,  and some of these other.

(01-24-2018, 06:20 PM)GMDino Wrote: No.  I'm asking why the POTUS thinks they are and why some on here agree.

What definition is used for that description?

And does it also apply to countries that are more white?

(01-24-2018, 06:24 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Bosnia is a s-hole.  Moldova is one as well.   Are those white enough for you?

(01-24-2018, 06:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: We are talking about Trump, not you. 

(01-24-2018, 06:34 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Well then you should probably stop using the term you. 

"So if there are so many good people in Afghanistan why would you be against letting them immigrate to the Unites States in order to let in more people from Norway?


What makes people from Norway so much superior to these fine people from Afghanistan?"

As to the rest: this is about as productive as Durbin crying wolf after the meeting. You (I mean you when I say you) and others view the comments racist I do not.

Has Trump said some racist stuff? Sure. His comments about the Indiana Judge that ruled in his case was racist as hell; I just don't see this one as such and damn sure not one that merits as much attention as it got. It was a adjective used in a closed door session.  

(01-24-2018, 06:39 PM)GMDino Wrote: I thought crying wolf was lying for attention.

I haven't seen a shred of evidence that he lied.

(01-24-2018, 06:10 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yet trump supports the actual policy that doesn’t set country of origin as a benefit to any immigrant.  

So basically everything you are arguing against is moot.

(01-24-2018, 06:34 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Well then you should probably stop using the term you.

(01-24-2018, 06:34 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I just don't see this one as such and damn sure not one that merits as much attention as it got. It was a adjective used in a closed door session.  

(01-24-2018, 06:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You have seen a shred of anyone stating Trump didn't say it? Weird.


WTS, the crying wolf was more directed to asserting racism. 

(01-24-2018, 07:31 PM)GMDino Wrote: I haven't seen proof that he didn't say it.  I saw some people say they can't remember.  I saw the POTUS refuse to say what he DID say.

But the racism angle is one that can't be "proven" unless the person who said it about those countries had a history of saying/doing things that might be racist. 

(01-24-2018, 07:23 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Maybe you should leave your own opinions about a country out of a discussion about Trump's opinion.

You just repeatedly go after Durbin in a desperate attempt to deflect the blame from Trump.

"Trump never said anything to insult the citizens of those shithole countries but I would have corrected him."

Why would you correct someone if he never said anything wrong?


Yeah, we know. "It is not racists if only a few people hear it".  Just like it is cool to talk about sexual assault as long as it is ion a locker room.

Basically your moral position is defined by who hears what you say.  So it is impossible to make a racist remark in a "closed door session".

(01-24-2018, 07:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So not one shred of evidence that he lied?

(01-24-2018, 06:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You have seen a shred of anyone stating Trump didn't say it? Weird.

(01-24-2018, 07:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So not one shred of evidence that he lied?

(01-24-2018, 07:43 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'll never learn

(01-24-2018, 04:31 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of course you wouldn't write off the comments; you'd search for the racial undertones.