(03-31-2021, 03:17 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I was referencing the TE and Marshall and possibly Chase at LSU with Burrow.

My point with Jefferson is that the best WR in the class was drafted 22nd. That happens a lot. It does not happen nearly so often with OTs.

One of many reasons ro take the generational tackle prospect over the excellent WR prospect.

FWIW, does anyone have the pro day #s for Chase AND the other top WRs. Compare him to Smith, Waddle, Bateman, and Moore + others.

Maybe he is generational, but I am highly dubious.

(03-31-2021, 03:45 PM)Wyche Wrote: Yes, and has pretty damn good hands to boot. He hasn't had a very good QB his entire time at FSU, line play has been as bad as, or worse than ours. Terry would be a nice pick at WR if we go Sewell/Slater/Pitts in round 1. 

To be honest, it's been so dismal in Tallahassee for so long.....I wasn't even thinking about him. He'd be a steal for us, IMO.

(03-31-2021, 03:46 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: Dude, you lost all credibility with me when you tried to twist your point by placing Austin Hooper in the same breath as HOF TE Tony Gonzales.

Obviously, you don't know me. You can reply if you like, but it's pointless. I won't even consider addressing you again until you gain some tenure here. Good day.

(03-31-2021, 03:47 PM)UKBengal1962 Wrote: from what i just read Jamin Davis the LB from UK beat Chase in every category 
Davis is 30 pounds heavier

i am not sold on Chase at all

(03-31-2021, 12:34 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: angry old school guys coming in to scream about the trenches in 3...2...

(03-31-2021, 03:47 PM)UKBengal1962 Wrote: from what i just read Jamin Davis the LB from UK beat Chase in every category 
Davis is 30 pounds heavier

i am not sold on Chase at all

(03-31-2021, 04:15 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I think that points to Davis being a freak athlete more than anything. Chase is legitimately smooth, even if he isn’t my top pick at five.

Also, welcome to the board!

(03-31-2021, 04:21 PM)UKBengal1962 Wrote: THANKS
no doubt he is a freak athlete

i would be happy with either one of Sewel or Pitts
IMHO Chase is not the next A.J

(03-31-2021, 03:38 PM)Benton Wrote: How far can chase run in the two seconds before burrow gets pancaked?

(03-31-2021, 03:38 PM)Benton Wrote: How far can chase run in the two seconds before burrow gets pancaked?

(03-31-2021, 03:53 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: LMAO holy reading comprehension, Strawman!


my point isnt that Hooper is in the same category as Gonzalez, guy

the point is Ryan's 2 best seasons, he didnt have an elite tight end

YOU said his best years were with TONY GONZALEZ and it was FACTUALLY wrong

(03-31-2021, 02:49 PM)Beaker Wrote: Here's the thing...the "have to draft Sewell or Burrow dies" people think that if we draft Chase at #5 we are neglecting the glaring O line problem. Well, what if the next two rounds are O line picks? Is it still neglected? And why in your mind does it HAVE to be O line in the first? Billy Price was a first round O line pick. Cedric Ogbuehi was a 1st round O line pick. First rounder does not guarantee good.

If you saw the results of Chase's pro day, cobined with his production at every level he's played, and his already established chemistry with Burrow, you'd be passing on the clear cut best WR prospect in the draft for the not clear cut best O line prospect in the draft. I think they'd be foolish to pass on Chase.

(03-31-2021, 05:06 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I will be massively disappointed if we take a WR at #5 when a generational Tackle falls into our lap after 5 years of o-line struggles. That'd be the most Mike Brown move ever. We did that kind of crap all through the 90s.

(03-31-2021, 05:06 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I will be massively disappointed if we take a WR at #5 when a generational Tackle falls into our lap after 5 years of o-line struggles. That'd be the most Mike Brown move ever. We did that kind of crap all through the 90s.

Let's recap:

Our 2 superbowl runs featured amazing lines.
Our lines were awful for most of the 90s.
During our 5 year run of playoff appearances, line was good.
Last 5 years (all losing seasons), line was horrendous.

Carl Pickens and Darnay Scott were fun players to watch...while we went 3-13.

Thing is, I don't even view Chase as an AJ Green caliber prospect. Taking him over Sewell when we have 2 good WRs would be utterly ridiculous. Btw, where is the love for Higgins around here? That dude just had one of the best rookie seasons in Bengals history, and we act like we have some dire need at WR? I don't get it.

Sure, we need speed on the outside, but we have a pair of 1000 yard receivers on the roster. We don't need a third 1000 yard guy.

Fwiw, I think people are just fascinated with pairing Burrow with his old teammate. Burrow isn't going to toss 60 TDs in the NFL just because Chase is on the roster.

TL/DR: WR isnt as big a need as OL, and Chase is a worse prospect than Sewell.

(03-31-2021, 05:10 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Watch all of this arguing and bickering on JN be for nothing.

Bengals stand pat at #5 and take Patrick Surtain (CB - Alabama). Then we all go nuts and direct our anger at Duke Tobin.

PS While looking at CB's for the 2021 draft I just noticed Asante Samuel Jr. Man, do I feel old.

(03-31-2021, 05:12 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: ummm PFF told me Higgins doesnt get much seperation, so he stinks and we need a real number 1 elite reciver!!

(03-31-2021, 05:13 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Show me one single post that claims Higgins stinks.

(03-31-2021, 05:10 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I think it was Whatever that just posted the numbers, but Mike Brown has taken more 1st round OT’s than WR’s since he’s been running the team. So no, it would not be typical to his history.