(01-25-2018, 07:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: There is evidence that he said it and despite Dino's not knowing of a single shred of evidence to the contrary folks like Kirstjen Nielsen have testified under oath that he did not say. But in the end: how do you prove a negative? The accusation was made by someone that had a lot to gain by making it and many will accept that as gospel.

As I've made the point that I would not doubt that he said it, but I have also said I doubt it was done out of racism. As he has said many times He is the President of the United States, not the President of the World. That dynamic is a little shocking to some after the previous 8 years

(01-25-2018, 10:17 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Oh you must have missed where he started his political career in the home of Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers.   Cop killing terrorists who blew up the NYC police headquarters.

(01-25-2018, 08:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Well it does appear that the racist is proposing a pathway to citizenship for about 1.8 mil illegal immigrants

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-supports-path-to-citizenship-for-up-to-18-million-‘dreamers’-in-new-white-house-proposal/ar-AAvb4Ka?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

(01-25-2018, 07:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: There is evidence that he said it and despite Dino's not knowing of a single shred of evidence to the contrary folks like Kirstjen Nielsen have testified under oath that he did not say. But in the end: how do you prove a negative? The accusation was made by someone that had a lot to gain by making it and many will accept that as gospel.

As I've made the point that I would not doubt that he said it, but I have also said I doubt it was done out of racism. As he has said many times He is the President of the United States, not the President of the World. That dynamic is a little shocking to some after the previous 8 years

Quote:Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen testified under oath Tuesday that she did not hear President Trump call Haiti, El Salvador and other developing nations “sh—hole” countries in a controversial meeting last week — though she did say he used “tough language.”


Mr. Nielsen also said “other congressmen” in the meeting used tough language when they were negotiating with Mr. Trump.

“I actually was struck more by the fact that the conversation … had gotten to a place where many people in the room were using inappropriate language in the Oval Office,” she said, saying she remembered “specific cuss words being used by a variety of members.”

Sen. Richard Durbin, the Illinois Democrat who has driven the issue of Mr. Trump’s words, said he did not use foul language, and Ms. Nielsen agreed.

She did say that Sen. Lindsey Graham, Mr. Durbin’s negotiating partner, used harsh language, and Mr. Durbin countered Mr. Graham was just repeating Mr. Trump’s words.

Ms. Nielsen said she didn’t remember any specific offensive word, but rather “the general profanity that was used in the room by almost everyone.”

(01-25-2018, 09:12 PM)GMDino Wrote: Actually she falls into the "I didn't hear it but I don't remember the exact words" category I mentioned.  Even "under oath".

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/16/dhs-secretary-under-oath-trump-didnt-say-sh--hole/



And of course you would not think it was racism....you're a Trump supporter.  They ignore every thing unless it is absolutely plain as day proven to the nth degree about Trump.  then they ignore it because...MAGA.

(01-25-2018, 09:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I guess we will just disagree on what constitutes a shred of evidence . 

Of course I am a Trump supporter he is the POTUS, now if there's a better candidate in 2020 I'll vote for that person and then support the person that wins, while not agreeing with his/her every move, just as I do Trump, 

(01-25-2018, 08:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Well it does appear that the racist is proposing a pathway to citizenship for about 1.8 mil illegal immigrants

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-supports-path-to-citizenship-for-up-to-18-million-‘dreamers’-in-new-white-house-proposal/ar-AAvb4Ka?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

(01-25-2018, 09:41 PM)GMDino Wrote: The good thing for Trump supporters is he's taken so many different positions (usually contradictory to something he already said) on so many different topics they always point to him being right when one of them eventually happens.

(01-25-2018, 09:43 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Any thoughts on the proposal or are you just satisfied with trying to make up another reason to bash Trump and those that support him?

(01-25-2018, 09:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: How can there be thoughts on something he hasn't made his mind up about yet?

Call me when he makes his final decision.

(01-25-2018, 07:43 PM)Dill Wrote: I didn't miss that bit of Fox propaganda. I just understood what it was.

How many cops did Ayers and Dohrn kill? How come they aren't in jail?

Hook line and sinker--I can't even see the sinker . . . .

(01-25-2018, 03:21 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm honestly in the same boat. I don't have a problem with the language, or calling a country a shithole if it is. It's just when you look at the comment and Trump's history with racial prejudice, there is a pattern there. And, you're right about the reasons for emigrating. People from Norway don't want to come here, but people from African countries do. They come here, and they thrive. They work hard and they do well for themselves.

That is my problem with the comments. They were rooted in ignorance and they fit a pattern of racial prejudice that we have seen from Trump for decades.

(01-26-2018, 12:30 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: They set a bomb off in the NYC police headquarters.  

https://nypost.com/2015/03/29/weatherman-underground-bomber-unmasked-as-city-schoolteacher/

(01-26-2018, 05:56 AM)Dill Wrote: These guys were pretty hard on toilets.

I'll ask again--How many cops did your "cop killers" kill?

(01-26-2018, 12:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Your joking right? They have more than just one incident.  

But hey if you want to defend cop killers and terrorists then so be it.

(01-26-2018, 01:14 PM)Dill Wrote: Looks like

1) your "cop killers" haven't killed any cops.

2) and that won't stop you from calling them cop killers.

Once the disinformation has been embedded, there is no rooting it out.

And you are not bothered by this.

(01-26-2018, 01:44 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: That’s not the only time they attempted to blow up police.   It’s jist the most well known which is why I posted.  

Of all the lowlife defenses of obama and his choices of allies this one has to be the lowest.

If you want to discuss the weather underground and obama’s Ties to terrorists bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn the. By all means make a thread.

(01-26-2018, 01:45 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/26/rwandan-president-praises-trump/

Another African nation president showing gratitude to trump.