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RE: White Privilege? - fredtoast - 08-06-2018
(08-02-2018, 08:05 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Who would put a team in New Hampshire?
Apparently the coloreds.
RE: White Privilege? - bfine32 - 08-08-2018
Here's one that didn't benefit from White Privilege:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/dui-suspect-allegedly-tells-police-shouldnt-arrested-shes-clean-thoroughbred-white-girl-005705323.html
Quote:Plenty of people have tried to finagle their way out of a speeding ticket by offering an excuse to a police officer like “please, I really have to pee” or “I left the stove on!” But it takes somebody really entitled or incredibly intoxicated (or both) to try to tell the arresting officer she shouldn’t be taken into custody because she’s a “white girl.”
RE: White Privilege? - GMDino - 08-08-2018
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RE: White Privilege? - michaelsean - 08-08-2018
(08-08-2018, 07:45 PM)GMDino Wrote:
As long as people call civil liberties a privilege I’m going to keep disagreeing. It is not a privilege to not be pulled over without probable cause. It is a violation of civil liberties to be pulled over without probable cause.
RE: White Privilege? - GMDino - 08-08-2018
(08-08-2018, 07:51 PM)michaelsean Wrote: As long as people call civil liberties a privilege I’m going to keep disagreeing. It is not a privilege to not be pulled over without probable cause. It is a violation of civil liberties to be pulled over without probable cause.
It's both. If they don't pull over the white guy because he's white.
RE: White Privilege? - michaelsean - 08-08-2018
(08-08-2018, 08:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: It's both. If they don't pull over the white guy because he's white.
No he has no right to pull either of us over. The law is the same for both of us. If he pulls over a black person without probable cause then he is violating his civil liberties.
RE: White Privilege? - GMDino - 08-08-2018
(08-08-2018, 08:04 PM)michaelsean Wrote: No he has no right to pull either of us over. The law is the same for both of us. If he pulls over a black person without probable cause then he is violating his civil liberties.
Yep..and when they feel free to do it for the black guy and not the white guy...that is a privilege.
Again, feel free to ignore it, twist it, spin it...whatever. There's a reason it happens to minorities more than whites.
RE: White Privilege? - michaelsean - 08-08-2018
(08-08-2018, 08:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: Yep..and when they feel free to do it for the black guy and not the white guy...that is a privilege.
Again, feel free to ignore it, twist it, spin it...whatever. There's a reason it happens to minorities more than whites.
You understand your civil liberties aren’t privileges right?I’m not twisting or ignoring anything. It’s a stupid term.
RE: White Privilege? - Beaker - 08-08-2018
(08-08-2018, 08:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: There's a reason it happens to minorities more than whites.
And there's a reason it happens to young males in their 20's driving expensive cars more than it happens to old ladies in their 80's driving Buicks. Must be age privilege.
RE: White Privilege? - Beaker - 08-08-2018
(08-08-2018, 07:45 PM)GMDino Wrote:
What this should say is when people say you have privilege it's because somebody is being racist and giving you an advantage...so its really just a form of racism and we don't need to call it anything else to make it seem like there are more things holding you back.
RE: White Privilege? - BmorePat87 - 08-09-2018
(08-08-2018, 07:51 PM)michaelsean Wrote: As long as people call civil liberties a privilege I’m going to keep disagreeing. It is not a privilege to not be pulled over without probable cause. It is a violation of civil liberties to be pulled over without probable cause.
Unfortunately, though, it happens and we should be more concerned with trying to live in a nation where it doesn't happen and less concerned with what we call it.
RE: White Privilege? - BmorePat87 - 08-09-2018
(08-08-2018, 09:04 PM)Beaker Wrote: And there's a reason it happens to young males in their 20's driving expensive cars more than it happens to old ladies in their 80's driving Buicks. Must be age privilege.
I can identify the reason in your scenario. Young people are more likely to speed.
What's the reason in his?
RE: White Privilege? - Beaker - 08-09-2018
(08-09-2018, 11:02 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I can identify the reason in your scenario. Young people are more likely to speed.
What's the reason in his?
But we're talking about people getting pulled over for no reason other than their appearance....so if neither the young person or the old lady are speeding, is that age privilege?
RE: White Privilege? - michaelsean - 08-09-2018
I would say if 20 white people go past a cop at 80 mph and don't get pulled over, and a black person does the same and gets pulled over, then that would be white privilege. It is illegal for all, but one group is being granted a special right.
RE: White Privilege? - Beaker - 08-09-2018
(08-09-2018, 11:30 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I would say if 20 white people go past a cop at 80 mph and don't get pulled over, and a black person does the same and gets pulled over, then that would be white privilege. It is illegal for all, but one group is being granted a special right.
I would say the cop is racist. No special rights are being granted. You pass a different cop at 80 and he pulls you over....even though you're white. Where did your special right go? Where is your "white privilege"?
RE: White Privilege? - michaelsean - 08-09-2018
(08-09-2018, 11:31 AM)Beaker Wrote: I would say the cop is racist.
I'm trying to be agreeable, but yes.
RE: White Privilege? - BmorePat87 - 08-09-2018
(08-09-2018, 11:26 AM)Beaker Wrote: But we're talking about people getting pulled over for no reason other than their appearance....so if neither the young person or the old lady are speeding, is that age privilege?
I didn't suggest the reason was good and I don't even know if that's the reason you were thinking about, I just offered a possible reason. And, yes, it could definitely be "age privilege".
So back to mine, what's the reason for the black person getting stopped more?
RE: White Privilege? - BmorePat87 - 08-09-2018
(08-09-2018, 11:30 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I would say if 20 white people go past a cop at 80 mph and don't get pulled over, and a black person does the same and gets pulled over, then that would be white privilege. It is illegal for all, but one group is being granted a special right.
And I don't think any of those 20 white drivers should be shamed or be made to feel guilty about it. Our concern should be why the cop (not to suggest cops are more to blame than others, this is just the scenario) did that.
RE: White Privilege? - fredtoast - 08-09-2018
(08-08-2018, 09:04 PM)Beaker Wrote: And there's a reason it happens to young males in their 20's driving expensive cars more than it happens to old ladies in their 80's driving Buicks. Must be age privilege.
link?
I have never heard of any study showing this.
RE: White Privilege? - fredtoast - 08-09-2018
(08-08-2018, 09:08 PM)Beaker Wrote: What this should say is when people say you have privilege it's because somebody is being racist and giving you an advantage...so its really just a form of racism and we don't need to call it anything else to make it seem like there are more things holding you back.
Fine. As long as you do not say it does not exist. That is what you tried to claim at first.