(01-04-2019, 12:02 AM)Big Boss Wrote: Yeah because Duke has been so clutch lately.

(01-03-2019, 11:48 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: According to Hobson on the search process:

'It’s believed they began working from a list of more than 20 names and have made about a dozen initial inquiries.'

He also notes that it's believed that Duke is part of the search committee.

(01-04-2019, 12:09 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Also interesting, yesterday I read in that same article or it could have been in Hobson's Choice, that in fact Duke is the GM. He just doesn't have the title. I found that a little odd...

(01-04-2019, 12:09 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Also interesting, yesterday I read in that same article or it could have been in Hobson's Choice, that in fact Duke is the GM. He just doesn't have the title. I found that a little odd...

(01-04-2019, 01:21 PM)3wt Wrote: As I survey the candidates so far, the most interesting candidate is Todd Monken.

He's the only guy who has not failed as a head coach that also developed and called his own offense.  He is also the only guy that has a significant endorsement by a player who is well traveled/ experienced, was a high level performer this year and is known for being a very savvy guy.

All the rest are coaches who have a failed recent track record or haven't done squat in this league.

He has the profile of what we want.   A young, intelligent guys who has demonstrated his abilities in the league (top 5 offense this year I believe), who the game has not passed by and who has (reportedly) the "it" (vs IT) factor.

So far he has not accepted the request for an interview (which bodes poorly for the Bengals)


If I'm Duke and Katie I'm not wasting time interviewing guys who are essentially aides and have no positive track record, and gunning heavily for this guy.  

(01-04-2019, 01:21 PM)3wt Wrote: As I survey the candidates so far, the most interesting candidate is Todd Monken.

He's the only guy who has not failed as a head coach that also developed and called his own offense.  He is also the only guy that has a significant endorsement by a player who is well traveled/ experienced, was a high level performer this year and is known for being a very savvy guy.

All the rest are coaches who have a failed recent track record or haven't done squat in this league.

He has the profile of what we want.   A young, intelligent guys who has demonstrated his abilities in the league (top 5 offense this year I believe), who the game has not passed by and who has (reportedly) the "it" (vs IT) factor.

So far he has not accepted the request for an interview (which bodes poorly for the Bengals)


If I'm Duke and Katie I'm not wasting time interviewing guys who are essentially aides and have no positive track record, and gunning heavily for this guy.  

(01-04-2019, 01:41 PM)Au165 Wrote: ...why do people think calling own plays important? I have seen this multiple times an until recently HC's calling the offense was very rare. Adam Gase got criticized for doing this because it took him over to the bench unfocused on the rest of the game. I keep seeing this call their own plays, but a HC is not a coordinator. He has to manage the overall running of the team and will install schemes and game plans for both sides of the ball. Case in point Frank Reich didn't call plays in Philladelphia but he sure does have the Colts looking good in year one when they looked like they could be a dumpster fire.

Also side note, history shows us you are much more likely to be successful in your second head coaching job than your first.

(01-04-2019, 01:45 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Unless your name is Hue Jackson..

(01-04-2019, 12:13 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Mike Brown will not give up control. Duke is more of an advisor than an actual GM.

(01-04-2019, 01:41 PM)Au165 Wrote: ...why do people think calling own plays important? I have seen this multiple times an until recently HC's calling the offense was very rare. Adam Gase got criticized for doing this because it took him over to the bench unfocused on the rest of the game. I keep seeing this call their own plays, but a HC is not a coordinator. He has to manage the overall running of the team and will install schemes and game plans for both sides of the ball. Case in point Frank Reich didn't call plays in Philladelphia but he sure does have the Colts looking good in year one when they looked like they could be a dumpster fire.

Also side note, history shows us you are much more likely to be successful in your second head coaching job than your first.

(01-04-2019, 01:45 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Unless your name is Hue Jackson..

(01-04-2019, 01:21 PM)3wt Wrote: As I survey the candidates so far, the most interesting candidate is Todd Monken.

He's the only guy who has not failed as a head coach that also developed and called his own offense.  He is also the only guy that has a significant endorsement by a player who is well traveled/ experienced, was a high level performer this year and is known for being a very savvy guy.

All the rest are coaches who have a failed recent track record or haven't done squat in this league.

He has the profile of what we want.   A young, intelligent guys who has demonstrated his abilities in the league (top 5 offense this year I believe), who the game has not passed by and who has (reportedly) the "it" (vs IT) factor.

So far he has not accepted the request for an interview (which bodes poorly for the Bengals)


If I'm Duke and Katie I'm not wasting time interviewing guys who are essentially aides and have no positive track record, and gunning heavily for this guy.  

(01-04-2019, 02:15 PM)I_C_DeadPeople Wrote: Monken would not be the only one with a player endorsement, just the only one with a public one. The league is a very small and tight group so I do not suspect there is much in the way of unknowns for candidates or about the candidates. It is clear every year that most teams have a similar candidate list so they are all working with the same information. Look at Indy, they had to go thier second choice but it worked out better than their first choice. 

There are good candidates out there, but a lot of it is 'fit'. Have to have the right guy for THAT organization. And turn the search around from the other side - any candidate will be talking to former players/coaches of the Bengals for info as well, probably reaching out to Marv. They will know the pros and cons of this job. 

(01-04-2019, 01:21 PM)3wt Wrote: As I survey the candidates so far, the most interesting candidate is Todd Monken.

He's the only guy who has not failed as a head coach that also developed and called his own offense.  He is also the only guy that has a significant endorsement by a player who is well traveled/ experienced, was a high level performer this year and is known for being a very savvy guy.

All the rest are coaches who have a failed recent track record or haven't done squat in this league.

He has the profile of what we want.   A young, intelligent guys who has demonstrated his abilities in the league (top 5 offense this year I believe), who the game has not passed by and who has (reportedly) the "it" (vs IT) factor.

So far he has not accepted the request for an interview (which bodes poorly for the Bengals)


If I'm Duke and Katie I'm not wasting time interviewing guys who are essentially aides and have no positive track record, and gunning heavily for this guy.  

(01-04-2019, 01:36 PM)Whatever Wrote: Monken is an interesting candidate, for sure.  His offense was definitely impressive despite the QB carusel in TB this year.  He also has 3 years as a college HC, doing a rebuild at Mississippi Southern, so he has experience with talent evaluation.

(01-04-2019, 01:41 PM)Au165 Wrote: ...why do people think calling own plays important? I have seen this multiple times an until recently HC's calling the offense was very rare. Adam Gase got criticized for doing this because it took him over to the bench unfocused on the rest of the game. I keep seeing this call their own plays, but a HC is not a coordinator. He has to manage the overall running of the team and will install schemes and game plans for both sides of the ball. Case in point Frank Reich didn't call plays in Philladelphia but he sure does have the Colts looking good in year one when they looked like they could be a dumpster fire.

Also side note, history shows us you are much more likely to be successful in your second head coaching job than your first.

(01-04-2019, 01:43 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Matt Nagy and Doug Pederson are working out pretty well for “aides”

(01-04-2019, 02:24 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: True, it isn't the HC's job to call the plays.

Maybe Monken as the HC and Taylor as the OC?

(01-04-2019, 02:28 PM)fozzie11 Wrote: I would assume that Taylor gets a HC gig somewhere with all the teams that are interested, and the fact our guys are flying out to meet him seems intereseting

(01-04-2019, 01:43 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Matt Nagy and Doug Pederson are working out pretty well for “aides”