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RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - GMDino - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 09:36 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: How many times has the administration’s account of this incident been modified after patently false details in their story were contested? If the President says it...or anyone in his administration...it is a lie. Citation: Throwing out the first pitch for the Yankees. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - Belsnickel - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 09:45 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I didn't say anyone was lying and the tone of tone of this post shows me rational discussion has come to an end. You can be right. Well, you did say they were lying. Clergy said they were run off of church grounds, and you said that it was public property. That is saying they are lying without explicitly stating it. Your high horse is more like Lil' Sebastian on this one. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - Belsnickel - 07-28-2020 Who could have ever imagined something like this would be happening? https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/2020/07/27/police-richmond-riots-instigated-by-white-supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter/ Quote:RICHMOND, Va. – Riots in downtown Richmond over the weekend were instigated by white supremacists under the guise of Black Lives Matter, according to law enforcement officials. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - bfine32 - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 09:51 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, you did say they were lying. Clergy said they were run off of church grounds, and you said that it was public property. That is saying they are lying without explicitly stating it. Your high horse is more like Lil' Sebastian on this one. Is it possible they could have confused the public road in front of the church with Church property? I did not say anyone was lying. You just...... how do we say it.....are putting words in my mouth; I didn't say the clergy were lying or that I trust the admin more. But when responses turn to that i know that's the time to concede the discussion RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - Belsnickel - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 10:34 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Is it possible they could have confused the public road in front of the church with Church property? I did not say anyone was lying. You just...... how do we say it.....are putting words in my mouth; I didn't say the clergy were lying or that I trust the admin more. But when responses turn to that i know that's the time to concede the discussion Nope. They said specifically they were on church property. That is what I have been saying all along and you said they weren't. I don't know what else to call that other than you implying that they are lying about the place they were run off from. But whatever makes you feel better about your position. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - bfine32 - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 10:49 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Nope. They said specifically they were on church property. That is what I have been saying all along and you said they weren't. I don't know what else to call that other than you implying that they are lying about the place they were run off from. But whatever makes you feel better about your position. Oh, they "specifically" said they were on church property. I remove my assertion that's it's possible they could have been confused. I've seen numerous folks in combat, trained to fight in a combat environment swear they were where they want. A couple even specially said it. I didn't call them liars. But for some reason these clergy facing the shock and awe of law enforcement lawlessly invading and occupying their church could not have been mistaken. You know what makes me feel better about my position? The person on the other end not making up shit that was said. See you in the next thread. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - Belsnickel - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 11:05 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Oh, they "specifically" said they were on church property. I remove my assertion that's it's possible they could have been confused. I've seen numerous folks in combat, trained to fight in a combat environment swear they were where they want. A couple even specially said it. I didn't call them liars. But for some reason these clergy facing the shock and awe of law enforcement lawlessly invading and occupying their church could not have been mistaken. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - GMDino - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 11:05 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Oh, they "specifically" said they were on church property. I remove my assertion that's it's possible they could have been confused. I've seen numerous folks in combat, trained to fight in a combat environment swear they were where they want. A couple even specially said it. I didn't call them liars. But for some reason these clergy facing the shock and awe of law enforcement lawlessly invading and occupying their church could not have been mistaken. You have to ask yourself (universal for both) who is more likely to lie: The clergy people who were gassed on their own property or the administration that changed their story multiple times about the gassing and have a record of lying every day about even the most mundane subjects. Does that mean the clergy were not lying or mistaken? Of course not. There are no absolutes. But there are trends and patterns and ability to discern truth based on outside factors. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - bfine32 - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 11:13 AM)GMDino Wrote: You have to ask yourself (universal for both) who is more likely to lie: The clergy people who were gassed on their own property or the administration that changed their story multiple times about the gassing and have a record of lying every day about even the most mundane subjects. Fair reply. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - Belsnickel - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 11:13 AM)GMDino Wrote: You have to ask yourself (universal for both) who is more likely to lie: The clergy people who were gassed on their own property or the administration that changed their story multiple times about the gassing and have a record of lying every day about even the most mundane subjects. The issue is that the clergy where there because they were using their patio as a place for gathering. They would tend to those that were injured or dehydrated. They would pray for peace and justice. All this took place on the patio in front of their church. Here is an image from earlier in the day this occurred. Tjis link, hopefully, will bring up the Google Street View where you can see the patio: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9004558,-77.0365659,3a,75y,88.49h,100.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfzsrQJ52HyJ3buOZJy_P0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 That is where they were. They set up there because it is church grounds and because it allowed them to be separated from the protests enough that they could render aid without being in the way. They weren't mistaken or confused. They were on church grounds and it was confiscated from the clergy for the photo op. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - GMDino - 07-28-2020 (07-28-2020, 11:49 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: The issue is that the clergy where there because they were using their patio as a place for gathering. They would tend to those that were injured or dehydrated. They would pray for peace and justice. All this took place on the patio in front of their church. Here is an image from earlier in the day this occurred. Oh *I* have no doubt who is telling the truth. IIRC there was one story about how they were actually tending to people who were injured when they were kicked out. (I don't have time to find that so I apologize in advance if that is wrong/bad information/or I am confusing it with a separate event.) Edit: Found it. https://www.masslive.com/news/2020/06/im-shaken-priest-forcibly-removed-by-police-from-dc-church-for-president-trump-photo-opportunity-shares-experience.html Quote:The Rev. Gini Gerbasi is a rector at St. John’s Episcopal Church in Georgetown, about two miles from where police cleared out peaceful protesters to create space for President Donald Trump on Monday evening. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - BmorePat87 - 07-29-2020 RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - GMDino - 08-25-2020 I just ran across this article on the RNC speakers. Not that I needed more info on them being awful people but since they are back in the news thanks to their recent speaking engagement in support of the POTUS. https://forward.com/news/national/453183/the-rabbi-who-is-neighbor-to-mark-and-patricia-mccloskey-speaks-out-they/?fbclid=IwAR3n_bsRSEIdAGjegzQAAuw3CsXfAYfhrPm2Ld1cy1SC4atA7S09r5ETOV8 Quote:The rabbi who is neighbor to Mark and Patricia McCloskey speaks out: ‘They are bullies’ She provides some more information on the peaceful protesters and how she knows they peaceful and it was interesting that none of them were charged with anything. I had not heard that before. I thought at least breaking down the gate...right? Maybe she was wrong. I'll have to check. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - Belsnickel - 08-25-2020 (08-25-2020, 02:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: I just ran across this article on the RNC speakers. I thought the photo and video evidence showed that the gate was open when the protesters entered. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - GMDino - 08-25-2020 (08-25-2020, 02:12 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I thought the photo and video evidence showed that the gate was open when the protesters entered. Indeed. However there was a brief kerfuffle here about how the gate got broken "somehow" so it had to be the protesters. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-25-2020 (08-25-2020, 05:17 PM)GMDino Wrote: Indeed. However there was a brief kerfuffle here about how the gate got broken "somehow" so it had to be the protesters. It clearly broke itself, correct? RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - Truck_1_0_1_ - 08-25-2020 (08-25-2020, 02:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: I just ran across this article on the RNC speakers. That asshole killed a bunch of bees and destroyed their hives? Sorry, with how the worldwide bee problems have been clearly documented for years now and other threats to their populations, this pisses me off WAY more than a few people getting charged or not for protesting. RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - GMDino - 08-25-2020 (08-25-2020, 06:14 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It clearly broke itself, correct? You clearly can read, correct? RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-25-2020 (08-25-2020, 07:19 PM)GMDino Wrote: You clearly can read, correct? I'll ignore the personal attack and reiterate that someone clearly broke that fence. Was it the mob of angry protesters, a random passerby, or a resident of the neighborhood that no one saw doing it. Which seems likely to you? RE: LE Leaks show treatment of pro BLM protestors vs conservative militias - BmorePat87 - 08-26-2020 People think they have identified the white militia member who shot 4 unarmed protestors last night, killing 2, including one he shot point blank in the head. They believe it is 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse. He is seen on video earlier in the night being thanked by cops for being there and given water. He is later seen running from a guy throws a bag at him before turning around and shooting him in the head, killing him. He later can be seen on video on ground as a number of protesters try to apprehend him. He then starts shooting at them, killing one of them. He is later on video approaching the cops, armed, trying to get behind their lines. |