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RE: Budget Proposal - Millhouse - 03-17-2017 (03-17-2017, 11:37 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Well of course they will reject it. They reject every President's budget. I've never really understood why a president submits a budget. Trump probably doesn't want to do half the crap in there, but now he can say he tried. Well he has to submit one because he ultimately will have to sign off on the finalized version sent back to him from Congress. Whether or not he means to actually go through with a lot of it, this is his first official stance on what he envisions the government should be spending taxpayers dollars on. And the kicker of it is it isnt about reducing the deficit and debt our country is in. RE: Budget Proposal - GMDino - 03-17-2017 (03-17-2017, 02:10 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Well he has to submit one because he ultimately will have to sign off on the finalized version sent back to him from Congress. Whether or not he means to actually go through with a lot of it, this is his first official stance on what he envisions the government should be spending taxpayers dollars on. No conservative cares about the deficit anymore than any liberal does. They never cut the deficit. They just move the spending to their buddies. RE: Budget Proposal - Millhouse - 03-17-2017 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/62-agencies-and-programs-trump-wants-to-eliminate/ar-BByb5tr?li=BBnb7Kz Here is another list I found on MSN that goes through the agencies. A common theme as I read through them was that Trump and his people could give two shits about poor people, the environment, wildlife refugee areas, museums, libraries, national heritage sites, Public Broadcasting, and the Arts. That said there are a few things though that should either be scaled back or eliminated. The Institute of Peace, Impact Aid Support Payments for Federal Property, Abandoned Mine Land grants are three at least I wouldnt have an issue with. RE: Budget Proposal - Millhouse - 03-17-2017 (03-17-2017, 02:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: No conservative cares about the deficit anymore than any liberal does. They never cut the deficit. They just move the spending to their buddies. Oh I know. Bottom line is regardless who was elected, this country will be deeper in debt after the 4 or 8 years in office. Whter it would be spending more on social programs or the military, eventually it is going to catch up to the future generations in a bad way. RE: Budget Proposal - GMDino - 03-17-2017 From 1969. RE: Budget Proposal - michaelsean - 03-17-2017 (03-17-2017, 01:46 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: That they are. Especially one that hasn't been getting a lot of talk, the Appalachian Regional Commission. Appalachia has some die hard red areas, but there are a lot of places in the region that are filled with Obama to Trump voters. Cutting ARC sends a message that he doesn't care about those folks. What kind of hillbilly welfare program is this? RE: Budget Proposal - Belsnickel - 03-17-2017 (03-17-2017, 02:10 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Well he has to submit one because he ultimately will have to sign off on the finalized version sent back to him from Congress. Whether or not he means to actually go through with a lot of it, this is his first official stance on what he envisions the government should be spending taxpayers dollars on. Not really. His role in the budget process isn't a part of his constitutional responsibilities, it is based on a nearly hundred year-old law, The General Accounting Act of 1921. This is what created what is now known as the OMB and the GAO. The OMB is tasked with taking budget proposals from the departments, who gather them from the ground up. The OMB then funnels them to POTUS who sends it to Congress. Before that, there really was no budget process. Appropriations were made when needed by Congress and that was that. But, with the growth of the federal government in the Progressive Era and with what was to come, a budget process was needed to make sense of it all. All of that being said, the budget is damn near ignored by Congress these days. Instead of funding the executive branch based upon their expressed "needs," they give them some of what they want and then start looking for pork-barrels, earmarks, and then the ever present logrolling brings it full circle. RE: Budget Proposal - GMDino - 03-19-2017 Quote:Trump Budget Director Defends Blueprint That Won't Balance http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-budget-director-defends-blueprint-that-wont-balance/ar-BBynVWM RE: Budget Proposal - Belsnickel - 03-20-2017 I think the most disgusting thing was Mulvaney saying it was kind to Trump's supporters, when it literally will take food out of their mouths. Anyway, moving past that and to the whole thing about not making it deficit neutral. This document is nothing more than setting policy priorities. No one with any knowledge and understanding of how this all works thinks that this is actually a budget, let alone the one that will pass through Congress. What this document does is send a message to the people of what the priorities are for the administration. This means that you can be as pie in the sky as you want to be ambitious and set out a deficit neutral skinny budget, then do it, because what Congress wants means absolutely nothing to this. He's already handing them a political nightmare to defend because of cuts to very popular programs among his supporters. RE: Budget Proposal - GMDino - 03-21-2017 Contains a breif, NSFW moment. RE: Budget Proposal - GMDino - 03-21-2017 Quote:Trump budget chief who wants to cut Meals on Wheels says he is sacrificing by giving up business cards http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trump-budget-chief-who-wants-to-cut-meals-on-wheels-says-he-is-sacrificing-by-giving-up-business-cards/?comments=disqus RE: Budget Proposal - BmorePat87 - 03-21-2017 $20b spending bill today for Mars exploration. I like science and all, but this guy's budget director just said a few days ago that we need to cut a few hundred million towards feeding kids because tax payers don't want their taxes wasted. Would that single mom of 2 from Detroit really want this over her kids getting food and after school programs? RE: Budget Proposal - michaelsean - 03-21-2017 (03-21-2017, 05:47 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: $20b spending bill today for Mars exploration. The mother from Detroit may view Mars exploration as a potential opportunity to move her kids to a nicer place. RE: Budget Proposal - Vas Deferens - 03-21-2017 (03-21-2017, 06:43 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The mother from Detroit may view Mars exploration as a potential opportunity to move her kids to a nicer place. Yeah maybe they should just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get themselves to mars while Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, general dynamics and UTC piss away billions colluding over corporate welfare contracts. Sounds about right. RE: Budget Proposal - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 03-21-2017 (03-21-2017, 05:47 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: $20b spending bill today for Mars exploration. That seems a little misleading. https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/wireStory/trump-signs-bill-authorizing-nasa-funding-mars-exploration-46278588 According to ABC, the bill is for NASA's 2017 budget which adds exploring Mars to its list of goals. They also quoted Ted Cruz stating it's the first such bill in seven years. Where the hell was NASA getting their funding? Also, $20 billion for NASA isn't even half of the proposed increase in (unnecessary) military spending. PS Although that's a shitload of meals on wheels. |