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RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - BmorePat87 - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 12:00 PM)Dill Wrote: Why would they not do business with blacks?? Yea, a ton of Muslims in my area are black, so this claim boggles my mind. I also live in a black majority area and there's a ton of Muslim owned businesses in my area that do business my all people in my area. There are certainly racial biases in all groups, but not doing business with ANY black people? RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - StLucieBengal - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 06:49 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Yea, a ton of Muslims in my area are black, so this claim boggles my mind. The mosque here locally which I am referring is the one with a long history of violence from its members. Most notably the Orlando gays killer. This is probably not everyone's typical mosque. Blacks and Mexicans were the ones who set their last mosque on fire. They have a long history with the community.... ironically they are in a black and Mexican neighborhood. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - BmorePat87 - 07-23-2017 I googled the mosque and I couldn't find anything about violence from members, just towards. http://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/st-lucie-county/2017/06/07/fort-pierce-mosque-victimized-after-pulse-nightclub-shooting/336385001/ Apparently some "Patriots" on motorcycles harassed the mosque, someone assaulted someone in the parking lot, and then a Jewish guy burned it down. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - StLucieBengal - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 08:57 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I googled the mosque and I couldn't find anything about violence from members, just towards. They have had a nice 15-20 year run of members being violent. The community just had enough. And it was blacks and Mexicans from the neighborhood who burned it up. But please by all means continue to tell me about my local area. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - GMDino - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 08:57 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I googled the mosque and I couldn't find anything about violence from members, just towards. A search of any mosque around Port St. Lucie brings up a bunch of articles from earlier this year....about residents upset about a possible new Mosque being built. http://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/local/st-lucie-county/2017/04/24/potential-mosque-port-st-lucie-city-council/100866402/ And the Mosque that got burned down? https://www.cairflorida.org/tag-islamophobia/549-update-port-st-lucie-man-arrested-in-mosque-fire Seems he was inspired less by violence from the Mosque and more from his anti-Islamic personal beliefs. FORT PIERCE Quote:A Port St. Lucie man was arrested Wednesday in connection to an arson this week at a Fort Pierce mosque that officials are calling a likely hate crime. He got 30 years. The mayor seems like a level headed guy though. http://www.newsleader.com/story/opinion/editorials/2017/04/27/thumb-up-port-st-lucie-mayor-gets-right-mosque/100933296/ Quote:Faced with a room full of irate constituents, Port St. Lucie Mayor Greg Oravec did the right thing Monday night. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - Vlad - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 12:00 PM)Dill Wrote: Why would they not do business with blacks?? Discrimination against blacks in the Middle East is at a high level. Perhaps their distain toward blacks supplants itself here in America. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - StLucieBengal - 07-23-2017 You are using cair florida as a source, Not sure why it matters that hamas blames islamaphobia. It rained yesterday and they likely blamed islamaphobia. . RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - Vlad - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 09:34 PM)GMDino Wrote: Clearly a white Hispanic. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - GMDino - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 10:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You are using cair florida as a source, Not sure why it matters that hamas blames islamaphobia. Still, is there any proof of "15-20 years" of violence from this Mosque? RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - StLucieBengal - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 10:42 PM)GMDino Wrote: Still, is there any proof of "15-20 years" of violence from this Mosque? Yes. This is very well known locally. If you are going to ask me to search the police blotter for Muslims then You are out of luck. But feel free and knowing the community as well as I do it's widely known. So much so that the new building they purchased stirred up a bunch of issues with the community around... it won't be long until there is more issues. The best part is you defending this mosque lol. These people in this mosque are not good Muslims. They are not reasonable. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - GMDino - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 10:49 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yes. This is very well known locally. If you are going to ask me to search the police blotter for Muslims then You are out of luck. But feel free and knowing the community as well as I do it's widely known. So much so that the new building they purchased stirred up a bunch of issues with the community around... it won't be long until there is more issues. Well there was nothing in any news search either. I was simply asking as there has only accusations with no proof provided. I would no more dare speak to the criminal element in Florida than on who people in Arizona should or should not vote for. Lastly I am not "defending the Mosque" as much as taking what I am being told and seeing if it is true or just opinion. Thus far it has shown to be simply opinion and the actual news stories have been quite different. And I think the definition of "reasonable" is one that is being misunderstood in that context. ![]() RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - Vlad - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 10:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You are using cair florida as a source, Not sure why it matters that hamas blames islamaphobia. Leftists think it sounds awesome. A phobia is an extreme fear that causes avoidance, not confrontation. We were anti Hitler and succeeded in destroying the Nazis because we were Naziphobes. You never heard that? RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - GMDino - 07-23-2017 I could tell lots of anecdotal stories about people who went to the RC church I grew up in. People arrested for rape, arson, child endangerment...O don't think there was a murderer though. One guy who beat up and stole from a priest in a neighboring town. One priest who (allegedly) had a son. But none of that would mean the church itself was made up of bad/unreasonable people. It means there were bad people that went to that church. Lot's of good people too. And in a town when Catholics were looked down on by some of the other demonstrations. Although I don't remember anyone wanting to burn it down. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - GMDino - 07-23-2017 (07-23-2017, 10:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You are using cair florida as a source, Not sure why it matters that hamas blames islamaphobia. Sorry for quoting this twice. Forgot to mention that I also provided a link about his sentencing that backed up what was in the first link: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/breaking-port-lucie-man-sentenced-years-mosque-arson/BVXo41G5lD1H4tytZ1AgqK/ Quote:Joseph Schreiber, 32, pleaded no contest to charges that he set fire to the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce. The fire was started the night of the 15th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - Dill - 07-24-2017 (07-23-2017, 10:23 PM)Vlad Wrote: Discrimination against blacks in the Middle East is at a high level. Perhaps their distain toward blacks supplants itself here in America. You have witnessed this or heard about it? RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - StLucieBengal - 07-24-2017 (07-23-2017, 11:00 PM)GMDino Wrote: I could tell lots of anecdotal stories about people who went to the RC church I grew up in. People arrested for rape, arson, child endangerment...O don't think there was a murderer though. One guy who beat up and stole from a priest in a neighboring town. One priest who (allegedly) had a son. Look.... I really do not care what you believe when it comes to this mosque and it's people. I have dealt with these people on several transactions and on the one for the new location for the mosque. I know they are bad dudes because I deal with them. I can't use most of my staff with them and when my gay employee works on their file I have to actually remind him to make sure he doesn't come off gay for his own safety. The security company installing their system is ran by a woman who they refuse to speak to in a meeting. She wanted to walk away but one of her people convinced her to put in an enormously high bid. She can not come to the site.... that's crazy. So please do not tell me that these people are great because you read where cair florida says they are so good. The fact of the matter is this area would be better off if this mosque was ran out of town. You mentioned the mayor's office..... ofc they are going to speak well of them, they do not want to hurt tourism by telling the truth. These people are nut jobs and endanger the community. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - StLucieBengal - 07-24-2017 (07-24-2017, 12:17 AM)Dill Wrote: You have witnessed this or heard about it? i have witnessed. These guys are all from the Middle East and they hate black people. The only way they give them a chance is if they are Muslim. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - Dill - 07-24-2017 (07-24-2017, 12:32 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: i have witnessed. The question was addressed to Vlad, who asserted that racism against blacks was at a "high level" in the Middle East. Are you saying you have witnessed Muslim racism against blacks in the Middle East? The Mosque situation you describe in St. Lucie seems to involve people who are fearful of the community around them. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - RICHMONDBENGAL_07 - 07-24-2017 (07-23-2017, 01:52 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: My response is in bold. I'm surprised that our personal experiences are so different even though. You're in Florida and I'm in Ohio. Ok I'm not that surprised, I was being sarcastic...just to clarify things. RE: Two people try to 'expose' Islam by sneaking into mosques. It backfired, badly - StLucieBengal - 07-24-2017 (07-24-2017, 02:47 AM)Dill Wrote: The question was addressed to Vlad, who asserted that racism against blacks was at a "high level" in the Middle East. Or maybe they are just hateful people with a history of violence. There are just bad mosques sometimes |