(10-06-2017, 05:04 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The Viagra argument has always been stupid.  Viagra helps fix something that isn’t working. Birth control stops something from working properly.  I think it’s wise to include birth control in insurance policies for those of child bearing years but that argument is stupid.

A question. I didn’t read much of the article because I’m on my phone and I’m not reading all of that, but isn’t the mandate in the law?  How is that reversed with an EO?

(10-06-2017, 02:28 PM)Benton Wrote: Not a shock.

Unfortunately, using legislation to press religious beliefs on others is only going to further push people away from religion.

(10-06-2017, 09:14 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The only thing this does is make those business who choose to not offer these less attractive to employees.   No one is forced to work for any of these companies or groups.   Employment is voluntary

(10-06-2017, 08:33 PM)GMDino Wrote: It fixes something that doesn't need fixed.  It's elective, if you will.

Birth control is used for a multitude of reasons.

(10-06-2017, 09:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Well you really don't need to walk either. But it sure does improve quality of life if you can. 

(10-06-2017, 09:43 PM)GMDino Wrote: You want to compare walking to being able to get an erection?  That's sad.

Why not compare it to asthma medicine too?  "Breathing sure is important...just like being able to get it up at age 70!"

Pathetic.

(10-06-2017, 09:49 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yes; Viagra allows someone to do something they could not do otherwise. You compare that to birth control. That's sad.

Actually breathing is a requirement.

Pathetic. 

(10-06-2017, 10:06 PM)GMDino Wrote: Again if you think the ability to walk is equal to the being able to get an erection that says more about your priorities than it does about the topic at hand.

Baseline trolling at the very best.

Have a pleasant weekend.

(10-06-2017, 04:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I have not been talking about that, but to answer your question:

I'm almost certain it would cost the insurance company and employer more; however, I assume these costs are offset by increase deductibles/premiums.

The real cost is to the employee and it is no one's job to protect an employee from him or herself during their time away from work.

(10-06-2017, 05:04 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The Viagra argument has always been stupid. Viagra helps fix something that isn’t working. Birth control stops something from working properly. I think it’s wise to include birth control in insurance policies for those of child bearing years but that argument is stupid.

A question. I didn’t read much of the article because I’m on my phone and I’m not reading all of that, but isn’t the mandate in the law? How is that reversed with an EO?

(10-06-2017, 08:33 PM)GMDino Wrote: It fixes something that doesn't need fixed.  It's elective, if you will.

Birth control is used for a multitude of reasons.

(10-09-2017, 05:48 PM)michaelsean Wrote: No. Something isn't working correctly, and it fixes it.  Now, I would have no problem with insurance companies requiring a diagnosis of some form of ED before paying for it.

Quote:In its reasoning for the move, the administration said among other things that mandating birth control coverage could foster “risky sexual behavior” among teens and young adults. It overturned the Obama administration’s view that the birth control requirement was necessary to meet the government’s “compelling interest” to protect women’s health.

(10-09-2017, 11:41 PM)GMDino Wrote: Look, they aren't even trying to hide that this is all for the religious vote:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-religion/trump-undermines-u-s-birth-control-coverage-requirement-idUSKBN1CB1XZ



It's all smoke and mirrors to appease a voting bloc without giving a damn if the mandate was good for women or not.

(10-10-2017, 12:09 AM)Benton Wrote: I've said before, but I'll say again, my high school growing up had one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates for a decade or so. It only went down after they started teaching sex ed, and the health department made condoms available to teens. 

Just hoping teens make good choices is like not wearing a seatbelt and hoping you stay in your seat during a wreck. 

Not really seeing the religious part from that quote, though.

(10-06-2017, 04:25 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Here is the solution.  

1. Get married
2. Someone stays home and takes care of the children while the other works.  
Asking grandparents, aunts/uncles, siblings to help when needed.  
3. Have more children

(10-10-2017, 12:33 AM)Nately120 Wrote: The first thing that came to mind when I read your solution was one of those gigantic Hispanic families.

(10-10-2017, 12:38 AM)GMDino Wrote: And yet he only has two children.

Do as I say, not as I do?

(10-09-2017, 05:52 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, for women that have irregular menstrual cycles, flow issues, debilitating cramps, etc., you are perfectly fine with paying for their oral contraceptives? Because these are common reasons to have them prescribed.