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RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 09:52 PM)michaelsean Wrote: So do you think he knew? When it says bought her do they mean for a trick or actually bought her? If he knew she was unwilling I don’t have a problem with her killing her rapist. I think a 43 year old man who picked up a 16 year old and was naked with her in bed either knew he buying her for sex or intended to have sex with a 16 year old. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - michaelsean - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 09:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: I think a 43 year old man who picked up a 16 year old and was naked with her in bed either knew he buying her for sex or intended to have sex with a 16 year old. No I mean did he know she was unwilling. If he thought she was a willing participant, even at 16, then I have more of a problem with her killing him. On the other hand if he knew she was unwilling then it’s rape, and while the law cares, I don’t if a woman kills a rapist on the scene or ten years later. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 10:07 PM)michaelsean Wrote: No I mean did he know she was unwilling. If he thought she was a willing participant, even at 16, then I have more of a problem with her killing him. On the other hand if he knew she was unwilling then it’s rape, and while the law cares, I don’t if a woman kills a rapist on the scene or ten years later. Oh, I'd bet he knew she was unwilling as she had a pimp. Maybe he just rolled around town looking for willing 16 year olds though. Maybe. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - michaelsean - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 10:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: Oh, I'd bet he knew she was unwilling as she had a pimp. Pimp doesn’t mean unwilling in any way. It makes a difference in my opinion if he was aware that she was unwilling. Just trying to figure that out. Sex with a willing 16 year old does not justify murder to me. Rape does so what he knew or didn’t know matters. Either way though her experience should mitigate her actions. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 10:47 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Pimp doesn’t mean unwilling in any way. Right. Got it. Thanks. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - Benton - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 07:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: And if there were anything that pointed to the person she killed hitting, chocking, pointing a gun; then that would be justification to kill him. Seems those were totally separate statements to illustrate her way of life, not what happened on that evening. She simply said I was afraid and IF he did something. As I said: that's the part of the story I'm missing. I have no idea. I’m also not sure how that is relevant to a sex slave who was beaten, raped and verbally abused. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - michaelsean - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 10:49 PM)GMDino Wrote: Right. Got it. Wtf? I’m more in agreement with you than not, and if you aren’t aware that pimp doesn’t mean forced I’m sorry. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - bfine32 - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 11:00 PM)Benton Wrote: I have no idea. I’m also not sure how that is relevant to a sex slave who was beaten, raped and verbally abused. So you have no idea if the person in my scenario is responsible for the murder; however, you can mitigate her murder of a man who for all we know never beat, raped, or verbally abused anyone? She murders her pimp, I'm right there with you. She murders someone that beat or raped her, I'm right there with you. She murders a john that for all we know paid for sex from someone that was willing to sell it I had questions. Someone in this very forum once chose not to answer a direct question because he told me he didn't like to make assumptions in murder cases and anyone that did so was rash. I wonder whatever happened to that guy. The relevance is both can point to their history as mitigation for committing murder unless you think juveniles are not forced into gangs with being beaten and abused, RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - bfine32 - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 10:47 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Pimp doesn’t mean unwilling in any way. It makes a difference in my opinion if he was aware that she was unwilling. Just trying to figure that out. Sex with a willing 16 year old does not justify murder to me. Rape does so what he knew or didn’t know matters.This is where I'm at with this particular case and why I stated I must be missing something. What did the guy she murdered do other that pay for sex without asking for birth certificate first? RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 11:02 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Wtf? I’m more in agreement with you than not, and if you aren’t aware that pimp doesn’t mean forced I’m sorry. So your contention is that women who are pimped out for sex are not forced. Okie dokie. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - bfine32 - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 09:37 PM)GMDino Wrote: So the law change would do what in this case? Wait for it........ It's coming.......... It's almost here........ here it is.... Mitigate the murder. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - michaelsean - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 11:17 PM)GMDino Wrote: So your contention is that women who are pimped out for sex are not forced. It’s not my contention, it’s what it is. The vast majority of prostitures choose to be prostitutes. Did you really think that most who work for a pimp are sex slaves? RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - bfine32 - 11-21-2017 Here a little more on the actual events of the case as if they matter: http://www.newsweek.com/cyntoia-brown-heres-why-teen-was-sentenced-life-after-claiming-she-was-sex-718766 Quote:Details of the 2006 trial at least can help better explain the charges against the teen and why a jury sided with prosecutors on a life sentence. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - Dill - 11-21-2017 (11-21-2017, 11:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Here a little more on the actual events of the case as if they matter: That doesn't look good. And most anyone would deny he/she was a prostitute. Now it looks worse than the kid who robs a store. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-22-2017 (11-21-2017, 11:48 PM)Dill Wrote: That doesn't look good. And most anyone would deny he/she was a prostitute. Whoo yeah. Almost like she was a scared teen who was being pimped out, voluntarily or course. Probably should have just gotten the chair and been done with it. Can't do enough to protect 43 year old guys picking up those willing, teen prostitutes for consensual sex! I'm sure "Kut-throat" was simply helping this girl fulfill her dream of being paid to have sex with older men. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - michaelsean - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 12:01 AM)GMDino Wrote: Whoo yeah. Almost like she was a scared teen who was being pimped out, voluntarily or course. Probably should have just gotten the chair and been done with it. Can't do enough to protect 43 year old guys picking up those willing, teen prostitutes for consensual sex! I'm sure "Kut-throat" was simply helping this girl fulfill her dream of being paid to have sex with older men. I never said she was willing. I asked if he knew she was unwilling. Then you said that her having a pimp meant she was unwilling. I said that does not itself prove anything of the sort which then led to the hissy fit you just posted. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - GMDino - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 12:05 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I never said she was willing. I asked if he knew she was unwilling. Then you said that her having a pimp meant she was unwilling. I said that does not itself prove anything of the sort which then led to the hissy fit you just posted. Yep. Plausible deniability given to the 43 year old who picked up the 16 year old for sex. Seems legit. I mean clearly the stats will show how "The vast majority of prostitutes choose to be prostitutes"...and the pimps are just what, managers? That must be it. Sorry for the "hissy fit". Clearly we can't just believe this sixteen year old prostitute. Warms my heart. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - Benton - 11-22-2017 (11-21-2017, 11:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Here a little more on the actual events of the case as if they matter: Of course they matter. https://www.nashvillescene.com/news/article/13037415/for-a-teens-impulsive-unthinkable-act-cyntoia-brown-got-an-adults-life-sentence-was-justice-served http://heavy.com/news/2017/11/johnny-allen-cyntoia-brown-murder-nashville/ RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - bfine32 - 11-22-2017 (11-22-2017, 12:58 AM)Benton Wrote: Of course they matter. Facts sure do matter. So it appears the deceased did not physically, sexually, and verbally abuse the girl; nor did he always have a gun pointed at her, although you quoted me this earlier to explain what the deceased did to her. Thanks for clearing that up; although I thought the Newsweek article I posted earlier had already done so. RE: Child sex slave in Nashville prison for killing man who used her - Vlad - 11-22-2017 (11-21-2017, 08:36 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Anyone that holding a gun at point blank range doesn't need to be a sharp shooter now do they? He used his status as a way to hold control over the girl. Him being a sharpshooter in the army were her words. There's nothing to indicate a gun was pointed at her head. Her possible "motive"..."The reason I just didn't run away is because he was a sharpshooter in the Army". Riiiight. There's a lot more to this story. |