(08-10-2015, 07:09 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Not saying there isn't a place for Enviornmental protection.   But the hysteria over the big bad companies trying to end the world with pollution is my issue.    

The EPA needs dialed back to reasonable levels of regulation.   Not to mention they are unelected people and do not have to directly answer to the public.

(08-10-2015, 03:24 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Nothing is going to happen to the air and water if the EPA went away. 

This isn't a dystopian movie where everything will go to shit. 

(08-10-2015, 06:28 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Between labor costs and the EPA regulations in this country, it's surprising we make anything here besides food.

(08-11-2015, 01:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: How far back?

To when mines were storing their waste improperly and it leaked into the water supply?

Like two years ago?

(08-12-2015, 10:41 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Better to just let it all out at once.

(08-12-2015, 11:23 AM)GMDino Wrote: I get, I get it.

But lets compare big business pollution to the time the EPA has accidentally done it.

(08-12-2015, 11:37 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Hey if you are going to be an ass, you may as well be a smart ass.  (Yes I just made that up.)

(08-12-2015, 11:23 AM)GMDino Wrote: I get, I get it.

But lets compare big business pollution to the time the EPA has accidentally done it.

(08-11-2015, 02:24 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yeah, the environment in China is just fine.

I am sure all big corporations here in the United States are going to voluntarily reduce profits in order to protect the environment just like they always did..

(08-12-2015, 12:46 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Because we are China. Good call on that one Freddy. 

(08-12-2015, 12:47 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No because I know the history of unregulated industry right here in the United States.

(08-12-2015, 01:45 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: When there was no media. 
When there was no alternative.

If companies tried to pull that shit now, they'd get obliterated in the court of public opinion and lose out. 

(08-12-2015, 01:45 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: When there was no media. 
When there was no alternative.

If companies tried to pull that shit now, they'd get obliterated in the court of public opinion and lose out. 

(08-12-2015, 01:51 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Meh...I don't think so.

We all know how terrible Mcdonalds is for you but we still buy it. It was the first example to com to mind.  I'm sure there are countless others.

(08-12-2015, 02:00 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: It really wouldn't matter if it was a power company. Before the EPA power plants were a million times worse than what they are now. The EPA has changed a lot of things for the better the first few years.

(08-12-2015, 02:04 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Technology changed. 
in the 50 or so years since the EPA was started, technology changing has had more to do with it than the EPA.  

You don't need a government agency to do it.
There will be a demand for accountability. 
Someone will create a supply. 

(08-12-2015, 02:11 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: The power plants were doing what ever they wanted. They didn't try to clean any of the pollutants they caused. If the EPA wasn't made the power plants would still be doing what ever they want. You don't realize that the people were demanding accountability and they wouldn't do anything, so the government had to step in and make the EPA.

(08-12-2015, 02:02 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: ....wut? 

(08-12-2015, 02:31 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: The government didn't HAVE to step in.
People were demanding accountability. it was coming. 

It wanted to.
Now it can claim any land it wants to as theirs.
Oh a rare bird was seen here once? Government land now.
Land flooded? Temporary wetlands. Government land now.