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RE: ACA - Devils Advocate - 03-29-2019 (03-29-2019, 06:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Everyone's premiums went up BEFORE the mandate. Well they certainly haven’t went down since. Yes, I recognize wedge issues when I see them. RE: ACA - mallorian69 - 04-01-2019 I thought it was gone as well but I did our taxes yesterday and we got hit for the 5 months my wife didnt have insurance to the tune of $290. RE: ACA - michaelsean - 04-01-2019 (04-01-2019, 09:25 AM)mallorian69 Wrote: I thought it was gone as well but I did our taxes yesterday and we got hit for the 5 months my wife didnt have insurance to the tune of $290. Perhaps they didn't back date it when the removed it. ![]() RE: ACA - Devils Advocate - 04-01-2019 (04-01-2019, 09:25 AM)mallorian69 Wrote: I thought it was gone as well but I did our taxes yesterday and we got hit for the 5 months my wife didnt have insurance to the tune of $290. (04-01-2019, 09:28 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Perhaps they didn't back date it when the removed it. It was repealed beginning January, 2019. RE: ACA - fredtoast - 04-01-2019 I was so excited when the ACA first became law. Then I realized they were talking about a "mandate" instead of a "man date". RE: ACA - michaelsean - 04-01-2019 (04-01-2019, 09:25 AM)mallorian69 Wrote: I thought it was gone as well but I did our taxes yesterday and we got hit for the 5 months my wife didnt have insurance to the tune of $290. I guess if you told the truth they did have a mechanism for collecting it. Seems higher than I remember hearing it would be though. RE: ACA - michaelsean - 04-01-2019 (04-01-2019, 02:14 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I was so excited when the ACA first became law. You're in Tennessee. Stick it through one of those holes in a barn, and something will come along to help you out. RE: ACA - Au165 - 04-01-2019 Medical debt should be nondischargeable in bankruptcy if you refuse to carry insurance. If you want to take the risk you should deal with the consequences. RE: ACA - GMDino - 04-01-2019 More at the link: Quote:What’s the status of the penalty? Has it been repealed? Source: https://www.healthinsurance.org/faqs/ive-heard-that-the-government-wont-really-be-able-to-enforce-the-penalty-for-not-having-health-insurance-is-this-true/ RE: ACA - GMDino - 04-02-2019 DJT and the GOP have it all figured out....and we'll tell you all about it right after you re-elect them! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/01/trump-republicans-health-plan-vote-after-2020-election/3339232002/ Quote:The Republican Party’s replacement plan for the Affordable Care Act is coming – after the 2020 election. Serious question: Do you supporters still believe his lies or are you willing to hold your nose, turn a blind eye and live with them for purely political reasons? RE: ACA - GMDino - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:12 AM)GMDino Wrote: DJT and the GOP have it all figured out....and we'll tell you all about it right after you re-elect them! https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-checking-trumps-repeal-replace-obamacare-timeline/story?id=46360908 Quote:Following the collapse of the Republican-backed American Health Care Act this afternoon, President Donald Trump appeared to backtrack on his long-held stance that President Obama's signature legislation, the Affordable Care Act, should be repealed and replaced "immediately." RE: ACA - Devils Advocate - 04-17-2019 (04-01-2019, 04:40 PM)Au165 Wrote: Medical debt should be nondischargeable in bankruptcy if you refuse to carry insurance. If you want to take the risk you should deal with the consequences. This is idiotic. RE: ACA - Au165 - 04-17-2019 (04-17-2019, 11:15 AM)Devils Advocate Wrote: This is idiotic. So you want all the benefits with no risk, makes sense. One of the reasons we are in the place we are in terms of cost of medical care is because all the people who do skip out on their bills. RE: ACA - Devils Advocate - 04-17-2019 (04-17-2019, 11:18 AM)Au165 Wrote: So you want all the benefits with no risk, makes sense. One of the reasons we are in the place we are in terms of cost of medical care is because all the people who do skip out on their bills. The effin deductibles for most plans will bankrupt a majority of Americans. RE: ACA - Au165 - 04-17-2019 (04-17-2019, 11:24 AM)Devils Advocate Wrote: The effin deductibles for most plans will bankrupt a majority of Americans. You throw around "most" and "majority" but neither is based on fact just your emotional tantrum. Before the ACA about 44 Million people were uninsured which equated to about 13% of the population, this means that 87% had a plan. In 2013 there were about 1 million non business bankruptcies filed, which works out to about .003% of the population. Since 2013 Premiums have increased about 10%. All this tells me is things aren't that much different than before the ACA and the majority of people had health insurance and they weren't filing for bankruptcy then, oh and we as a country were in a much worse off financial position in general. RE: ACA - Devils Advocate - 04-17-2019 Yeah Susan with her pre existing condition can now get insurance but she still can’t afford it because she, like most people make a low wage. Hell, even if she made $20 per hour, with kids, rent/mortgage she still couldn’t afford it because a family plan costs about $80 per week give or take § often, much more than that ... and that’s before insurance will even lift a finger until she meets her deductible. Yeah she saves (very little) if she needs an X-ray or her teeth cleaned but if she needs surgery or you know, life saving medication, she’s f**cked. Better take an Uber instead of an ambulance too. In my opinion, anyone that agrees with the current system is either elitist or ignorant. RE: ACA - Devils Advocate - 04-17-2019 (04-17-2019, 11:35 AM)Au165 Wrote: You throw around "most" and "majority" but neither is based on fact just your emotional tantrum. Before the ACA about 44 Million people were uninsured which equated to about 13% of the population, this means that 87% had a plan. In 2013 there were about 1 million non business bankruptcies filed, which works out to about .003% of the population. Since 2013 Premiums have increased about 10%. Well I’m just presuming a majority of Americans make less than say the $20 I mentioned above. I’m sure I’m within reason. RE: ACA - Au165 - 04-17-2019 (04-17-2019, 11:46 AM)Devils Advocate Wrote: Well I’m just presuming a majority of Americans make less than say the $20 I mentioned above. I’m sure I’m within reason. I gave you the facts, less than .003% of people were declaring bankruptcy before ACA and 87% of people had insurance. Premiums are up 10% so even if I say bankruptcy doubles because of that your less than half a percent of the population. You’re are greatly over exaggerating how dire it is. Do people struggle with it? Yes. Someone has to pay for healthcare though and choosing to pass on insurance is a bet that shouldn’t be rewarded with absolute forgiveness for busting out. RE: ACA - Devils Advocate - 04-17-2019 (04-17-2019, 11:51 AM)Au165 Wrote: I gave you the facts, less than .003% of people were declaring bankruptcy before ACA and 87% of people had insurance. Premiums are up 10% so even if I say bankruptcy doubles because of that your less than half a percent of the population. You’re are greatly over exaggerating how dire it is. Do people struggle with it? Yes. Someone has to pay for healthcare though and choosing to pass on insurance is a bet that shouldn’t be rewarded with absolute forgiveness for busting out. Premiums aren’t the only thing that’s went up 10%. Wages are down § costs are up across the board. So people are struggling, like it or not and no, I’m not exaggerating anything. YOU are understating how dire the situation is for many people. RE: ACA - Devils Advocate - 04-17-2019 Your stats don’t include people who can’t afford bankruptcy either. You’re out of touch buddy. |