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RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - Bengalstripes9 - 01-17-2021
(01-17-2021, 01:47 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Why do people keep saying Mike Daniels performed well? He played 11 games with 17 (7 solo) tackles and no sacks, 1 TFL, 1 QB hit and no other stats. The whole DT room needs cleaned out except for Reader and maybe Wren and Tupou. Then draft somebody that can play DE in 3 man fronts and DT in 4 man fronts, in the first 3 rounds.
He’s not a pass rusher. He was a depth signing. I thought before his injury he had a good impact against the run. If we can resign him for depth I’d be good with it. But you may be correct. I’d certainly be happy to see a good Dt fall to us in the 2nd or later rounds. It’ll be interesting to see what Hobby does with the group.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - Bengalstripes9 - 01-17-2021
(01-17-2021, 02:21 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: I'd prefer to keep Covington over Daniels, if we retain either as a depth run stopper.
He filled in well for sure. With all the injuries, lots of young players got experience. Definitely a blessing in disguise. Hopefully they stay a little healthier this year. Reader will make everyone look better too.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - bonesaw - 01-17-2021
meh....I guess it's better than hiring the assistant of the guy you just fired.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - sandwedge - 01-17-2021
(01-17-2021, 01:47 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Why do people keep saying Mike Daniels performed well? He played 11 games with 17 (7 solo) tackles and no sacks, 1 TFL, 1 QB hit and no other stats. The whole DT room needs cleaned out except for Reader and maybe Wren and Tupou. Then draft somebody that can play DE in 3 man fronts and DT in 4 man fronts, in the first 3 rounds.
Numbers for DTs are never going to look glorious on some stat sheet.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - sandwedge - 01-17-2021
(01-16-2021, 07:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: He has a much longer resume than Eason. So at least he’s coming with a lot of experience. Some good stops, too. I like it.
Wonder why he would come here and play for a "in over his head HC".........
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - SHRacerX - 01-18-2021
(01-16-2021, 03:20 PM)JWW1971 Wrote: Same guy that coached Reader through his college years, very good hire
Excellent point. Reader needs to be the leader on defense as well. I am sure that was a part of the design behind Hobby. Hobby design? Sounds like a store.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - ochocincos - 01-18-2021
(01-17-2021, 11:37 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Numbers for DTs are never going to look glorious on some stat sheet.
Not for tackles, but sacks and TFLs they can.
There were nine DTs with 8+ TFLs in 2020.
There were seven DTs with 6+ sacks in 2020.
Daniels had 0 sacks, 1 TFL, and 1 total pressure.
I think the big thing with Daniels is people expected him to be near the level of old Geno Atkins.
The reality is he hasn't had more than 2.0 sacks and 2 TFLs since 2017. He also wasn't good at pressuring the QB in either DET or CIN.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - bfine32 - 01-18-2021
(01-17-2021, 02:21 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: I'd prefer to keep Covington over Daniels, if we retain either as a depth run stopper.
Xavier Williams was our best IDL last year
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - Wyche'sWarrior - 01-18-2021
(01-16-2021, 03:48 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I agree, glad that the Bengals actually interviewed multiple candidates, rather than just hiring the first guy that seemed agreeable. I do find it to be a bonus that he coached Reader at Clemson.
According to Bengals Wire....Reader played a bit of a role in getting this guy.
EDIT, link:
https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/17/dj-reader-clemson-connection-lure-marion-hobby-bengals/
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-18-2021
(01-16-2021, 01:26 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/16/cincinnati-bengals-hire-marion-hobby-dl-coach/
Nice grab, this guy has a nice Hobby of coaching good D-lines.
Seriously though, this guy has done a lot of great things. Love it.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - XenoMorph - 01-19-2021
(01-16-2021, 01:49 PM)samhain Wrote: Seems like a solid hire.
but why was he fired?
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - higgy100 - 01-19-2021
(01-17-2021, 01:47 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Why do people keep saying Mike Daniels performed well? He played 11 games with 17 (7 solo) tackles and no sacks, 1 TFL, 1 QB hit and no other stats. The whole DT room needs cleaned out except for Reader and maybe Wren and Tupou. Then draft somebody that can play DE in 3 man fronts and DT in 4 man fronts, in the first 3 rounds.
First off, he was a depth guy brought in. It's like asking your specialty relief pitcher to now give you two innings. You rarely measure DT's in stats. Bengals need a top DE and someone opponents have to account for and develop a scheme. Haven't had that since Carlos was wearing belle bottoms.
With the ability of the LB's, a really good DE brought in and a little more luck in the DL staying healthy I like this front 7.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - bfine32 - 01-19-2021
(01-19-2021, 10:50 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: but why was he fired?
He wasn't
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - Bengal Dude - 01-20-2021
(01-19-2021, 10:50 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: but why was he fired?
Position coaches only get 2 year contracts, I believe.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - XenoMorph - 01-20-2021
(01-20-2021, 02:45 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Position coaches only get 2 year contracts, I believe.
okay he just either never gets retained or loves to move around lol
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - masonbengals fan - 01-20-2021
Glad to read about the Reader recommendation.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - Bengal Dude - 01-21-2021
(01-20-2021, 09:45 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: okay he just either never gets retained or loves to move around lol
I believe he was a fall guy in Jacksonville. No idea why Miami didn't retain him.
RE: New DL coach Marion Hobby - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-21-2021
(01-21-2021, 02:34 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: I believe he was a fall guy in Jacksonville. No idea why Miami didn't retain him.
Miami has been about as bad as us in decision making for awhile now.
I put no stock into it.
I like us getting Pollack and Hobby.