(05-27-2016, 11:40 AM)jj22 Wrote: Maybe I'm just a little sensitive cause it's the offseason, and dreams of happy endings are abound. All it'll take is a primetime disaster for me to turn on him. But right now I feel like I'd feel bad for the guy if he ends his career here with never at the very minimum getting a playoff win.

(05-27-2016, 12:13 PM)jj22 Wrote: I want to see them win a Superbowl too, but C'mon man. They can't even win a playoff game. It can't be Superbowl or bust when your 0-7 in playoff games. That's setting the bar unreasonably high given the playoff history. That's like Cleveland fans claiming AFCN title or bust without having a winning record in two decades (ok they had one, but still). You guys are skipping some steps on the check list. I'm just focusing on Marvin's legacy. I think as long as we don't blow the whole thing up our window should be cracked as long as Dalton and Green, Atkins and Dunlap and co are here. All isn't lost for the players to get over the hump. Marvins days to get the monkey off his back are numbered though.

(05-27-2016, 01:07 PM)Sled21 Wrote: They won last year's playoff game against the Steelers. The NFL admitted as much, declaring the Stooler touchdown should not have been ruled a touchdown and that Porter should have been flagged, which would have offset Jone's flag. The Bengals won that game, the ref's stole it from them. That was one time Lewis should have been up in the Referee's grill, ala Harbaugh, and I suspect a late flag would then have been thrown on Porter, who had zero business being in the Bengal's huddle. Sometimes, Lewis is TOO easygoing.

(05-27-2016, 11:40 AM)jj22 Wrote: Maybe I'm just a little sensitive cause it's the offseason, and dreams of happy endings are abound. All it'll take is a primetime disaster for me to turn on him. But right now I feel like I'd feel bad for the guy if he ends his career here with never at the very minimum getting a playoff win.

I do think with his relationship with the players (if they supposedly think of him as some father figure) they could pull it together for him. Kinda like what SS said (although he ignored the Steelers tactics, but that's another argument that it seems like has been lost).

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/5/25/11776516/first-take-criticizes-leveon-bell-for-complaints-about-bengals

(05-27-2016, 12:14 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Never agreed so strongly with a person's post (about 1 win not being enough) only to strongly disagree with their very next post in the same thread. Lol

It's easy to think so because he's 0-7 in the playoffs. He is literally the worst playoff coach in the history of the NFL. Mora went 0-6, but did it with two different teams. No other coach in NFL history is more than 0-3.

Pete Rose's hit record, Cal Ripken Jr's MLB Iron Man record, Brett Favre's NFL Iron Man Record, and Marvin Lewis' postseason winless streak....

...Records that will never be broken in the future.

(05-27-2016, 03:00 PM)jason Wrote: You left out AC Green's NBA iron man record.... and his virginity record.

(05-27-2016, 01:07 PM)Sled21 Wrote: They won last year's playoff game against the Steelers. The NFL admitted as much, declaring the Stooler touchdown should not have been ruled a touchdown and that Porter should have been flagged, which would have offset Jone's flag. The Bengals won that game, the ref's stole it from them. That was one time Lewis should have been up in the Referee's grill, ala Harbaugh, and I suspect a late flag would then have been thrown on Porter, who had zero business being in the Bengal's huddle. Sometimes, Lewis is TOO easygoing. There was no excuse for not flagging Porter.

(05-27-2016, 01:07 PM)Sled21 Wrote: They won last year's playoff game against the Steelers. The NFL admitted as much, declaring the Stooler touchdown should not have been ruled a touchdown and that Porter should have been flagged, which would have offset Jone's flag. The Bengals won that game, the ref's stole it from them. That was one time Lewis should have been up in the Referee's grill, ala Harbaugh, and I suspect a late flag would then have been thrown on Porter, who had zero business being in the Bengal's huddle. Sometimes, Lewis is TOO easygoing. There was no excuse for not flagging Porter.

(05-27-2016, 12:10 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Maybe I'm alone in this thinking, but unless we win the Super Bowl, I don't give a rat's ass about playoff wins. Winning the first round, then losing, means zilch to me. It's a Super Bowl win or nothing for me.

(05-27-2016, 11:40 AM)jj22 Wrote: Maybe I'm just a little sensitive cause it's the offseason, and dreams of happy endings are abound. All it'll take is a primetime disaster for me to turn on him. But right now I feel like I'd feel bad for the guy if he ends his career here with never at the very minimum getting a playoff win.

I do think with his relationship with the players (if they supposedly think of him as some father figure) they could pull it together for him. Kinda like what SS said (although he ignored the Steelers tactics, but that's another argument that it seems like has been lost).

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/5/25/11776516/first-take-criticizes-leveon-bell-for-complaints-about-bengals

(05-27-2016, 07:24 PM)OBX Bengal Wrote: NFL VP of officiating: Wild Martavis Bryant TD vs. Bengals wasn't a catch:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25451733/nfl-vp-of-officiating-wild-martavis-bryant-td-vs-bengals-wasnt-a-catch


The NFL also decided that Shazier's hit on Bernard is now illegal:

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2016/03/21/nfl-ryan-shazier-hit-on-giovani-bernard-now-illegal/82081910/


Shazier's hit on Bernard was illegal when it happened. It just wasn't called. The NFL knew it was illegal and they still do. The "now it is an illegal hit" is nonsense and the NFL is covering up what happened. Phil Simms basically admitted it in the Denver game. They are spinning what happened so people don't realize that they are actually Big Time Wrestling.

Peyton got a ring and it was great theater. I guess. Hopefully this year it will be legit. Let the players determine the outcome. Not the refs.

Ride into the sunset ,Shane ,Ride into the sunset.

(05-26-2016, 08:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 1. No "we" can't, because we're not NFL players.

2. Dude's hit his ceiling. He was good for rebuilding a team and getting them to win games, but he's never been good when the pressure is on and he can't prepare his teams for it. Prime time/playoff games have always been something his teams have rarely won, regardless of the players involved or the level of competition in the game. He's had at least like 3-4 distinctly different teams now as a Bengals HC and they all look the same in those moments.

Common thread between them? Him.


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Side note: Yeah, Sunset is right. With the talent the team has had last year and this year, a single playoff win is a failure. That was the goal back when Dalton was a rookie/2nd year player and this team was all young and such. The window will probably never be open more than he's had lately, so yeah, SB appearance is pretty much the only acceptable goal right now.

(05-27-2016, 07:31 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: To each their own, but I don't get this line of thinking. Winning a playoff game is another step in a progression towards winning a championship. I'll always be happy if my team gets one step closer.

If you don't care about winning a playoff game, then why care about winning in the regular season? After all, you said it's Super Bowl or bust, so by that logic, you shouldn't care if we win regular season games either.