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RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - Dill - 12-18-2016 (12-17-2016, 11:11 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: My first question regarding Tillerson is what experience does he have in diplomacy? Well he does have some, sort of. Running an international oil company is not like managing hotels. ExxonMobile has its own intelligence service. They deal with heads of state in many countries. And they have frequently thwarted US policy goals in places like Chad and Iraq. So Tillerson has a kind of foreign policy experience for sure. It's just hat he has always been a creature of one corporation. Can he recognize other than business interests? Can he put US interests ahead of Exxon's? I am not so sure. He knows Putin, does business in Russia, but is accustomed to working "with" autocrats, not against them. I'm sure he knows far more than Trump, but may have Trump's limited corporate conception of ethics. RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - JustWinBaby - 12-18-2016 (12-17-2016, 01:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who determines this lack of qualification? I'm guessing writers at HuffPo who never had a real job and majored in English. But seriously this guy might have been good for Sec Energy, but not sure why doing a few deals with foreign countries would qualify you for Sec State. Although, again, a lot of this angst is based off the false premise these figure heads actually do something - Hillary's claim to fame as Sec State was how many miles she flew. Because it sure as hell wasn't the "Russian reset" button. RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - Bengalzona - 12-18-2016 (12-17-2016, 07:34 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You just called yourself dumb. I don't think it is fair you get to insult your intelligence, but the rules around this joint preclude me from insulting your intelligence. You can't insult other people. However, indirectly insulting someone else's intelligence by posting something so inane and/or off-topic that it makes other people scratch their heads and wonder what type of glue you are sniffing is common around here. I do it several times a day. ![]() Hope that helps. RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - Bengalzona - 12-18-2016 Personally, I'm giving the whole admin 100 days on-the-job before I start judging. That is my idea of fairness. Trump has reasons for picking this guy. I'm not quite sure what those reasons are at this point. He's the one who has to sell this to Congress. And I think Congress is going to scrutinize the Secretary of State position much more thoroughly than any other position. RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - GMDino - 12-18-2016 (12-17-2016, 05:41 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Where have I said I know more than anyone? I am not the one that deem folks unqualified to serve in Cabinet positions; however, there is definitely no shortage of these experts. ![]() (12-17-2016, 01:16 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Previous picks you say? Does that mean this guy should use his personal email for official business? (12-17-2016, 05:41 PM)bfine32 Wrote: There's a good chance this made sense in your head. ![]() RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - GMDino - 12-18-2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/12/18/exxon-probes-may-figure-tillerson-senate-hearings-top-diplomat-job/95380806/ Quote:Donald Trump isn't the only person headed to the U.S. government's executive branch saddled by legal issues. RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - Dill - 12-18-2016 (12-18-2016, 08:26 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: Personally, I'm giving the whole admin 100 days on-the-job before I start judging. That is my idea of fairness. Trump has reasons for picking this guy. I'm not quite sure what those reasons are at this point. He's the one who has to sell this to Congress. And I think Congress is going to scrutinize the Secretary of State position much more thoroughly than any other position. I admire your patience, B-zona. We are rather like fans judging draft picks. We have no power. Sometimes we are right and sometimes wrong. This "draft" will be pretty interesting, though, since the GM has never played football before. RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - Dill - 12-18-2016 (12-17-2016, 05:42 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: Is this that same Rex Tillerson from that same Exxon Mobil that has a potentially $500 billion dollar deal with Russia that was put on ice with those sanctions put on Russia after they invaded Crimea? Put on ice for now. . . http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/exxon-mobile-russia-sanctions-rex-tillerson-232770 ExxonMobil successfully lobbied against a bill that would have made it harder for the next president to lift sanctions against Russia, clearing the way for the oil giant to restart a program worth billions of dollars if Donald Trump eases those restrictions as president. The company’s effort could be helped by outgoing CEO Rex Tillerson, who, if confirmed as secretary of state, would be a key adviser on the decision. RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 12-19-2016 (12-18-2016, 06:02 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: I'm guessing writers at HuffPo who never had a real job and majored in English. Figureheads? Like a CEO? RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - GMDino - 12-19-2016 (12-19-2016, 03:57 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Figureheads? Like a CEO? One that has all his underlings do the work and then takes all the credit when it goes right and denies any knowledge when it goes wrong? RE: Meet our new Secretary of State - BmorePat87 - 12-19-2016 Huntsman would have been a great choice. |