(12-29-2016, 09:59 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: Everything else the same? Yeah. Having a bias to help those that can relate to you better isn't a bad thing.

(12-29-2016, 10:03 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I'm curious to know if you're really curious to know. 

(12-29-2016, 09:55 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: That's nice of them.

Couldn't care less what they decide to do with their resources as long as they're not harming anyone. I'm curious to know where you get this idea that the group is non-Christian because of this. Plenty of churches aid people who are less fortunate internationally, but whateves.

(12-29-2016, 09:59 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: Everything else the same? Yeah. Having a bias to help those that can relate to you better isn't a bad thing.

(12-29-2016, 10:39 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: That's curious x2.......

Quote:you're bi-curious !

(12-29-2016, 10:39 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: That's curious x2....... you're bi-curious !

(12-29-2016, 09:59 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: Everything else the same? Yeah. Having a bias to help those that can relate to you better isn't a bad thing.

(12-30-2016, 12:04 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: That's one.


That's two.

Seems you're bi-curious, too.  Wanna be bi-curious together?  I kid.  I kid.  (I'm not kidding.)

(12-30-2016, 12:06 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: I think that is illegal now in Putin's Russia. 

(12-30-2016, 12:08 AM)Dill Wrote: Equality before the law is way overrated.

(12-30-2016, 12:14 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: Only if I'm the big spoon.
Send pics...



Putin....... Put...in..... PUT IN !!
It can't be illegal with a suggestive name, like that.

(12-30-2016, 01:14 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Dude, everyone who has been to Ranger School in the winter knows we rotate who gets to be the big spoon.

(12-30-2016, 02:37 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Wow....you have an amazing make-up artist !
They're like Wong-Foo level.

(12-29-2016, 09:07 PM)Dill Wrote: So if faced with a Muslim family escaping persecution and a Christian family, and we only have space for one, we should bring in the Christians?

Would you extend this to Christians under Israel occupation on the West Bank?

(12-30-2016, 03:01 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Nice attempt at a Trick question.

1st, If it is a Christian family coming from the Middle East, then they are already being persecuted because of their religious beliefs.

2nd, Now that we've cleared up that both being persecuted, we move to the next step. Christianity is a minority group in the Middle East.

So unless you are a Bigot, then the Christian family should be given priority over the Muslim family. Agreed?

(12-30-2016, 03:31 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: The Muslim refugees are being persecuted by other Muslims like ISIS.  Therefore, only if you are  a bigot would you give priority to one religious group over another.

(12-30-2016, 04:37 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I am aware of that and that same group ISIS also persecutes Christians, that is why I established him as equals in the persecution side.

Who is the minority? Christians or Muslims? Aren't you all about pushing for the minorities first?

(12-24-2016, 04:16 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: If that is the main thing you took away from from Catholic School, I think Jesus would be pleased.

(12-30-2016, 03:01 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Nice attempt at a Trick question.

1st, If it is a Christian family coming from the Middle East, then they are already being persecuted because of their religious beliefs.

2nd, Now that we've cleared up that both being persecuted, we move to the next step. Christianity is a minority group in the Middle East.

So unless you are a Bigot, then the Christian family should be given priority over the Muslim family. Agreed?

(12-30-2016, 04:53 PM)Dill Wrote: No.

First the logic isn't very clear here. Zaidi are a smaller minority than Christians and more persecuted, so would you take a Zaidi family over a Christian? Muslims are a minority in Russia, so would you prefer a Muslim family fleeing persecution in Russia over a Christian family?

The fact of persecution is not clear either.

Christians in Bethlehem are persecuted because they are under Israeli occupation. If you grant them the status of political refugees, then you are condemning an ally. Same for Chaldeans in central Iraq.

Finally, All Christians in the Middle East are not persecuted. There are many places, like Mt Nebo in Jordan, where they administer and worship holy sites together. One of the biggest Catholic churches in the Middle East is in Qatar. No persecution there whatsoever. Christians dominate Lebanon.

So a policy of automatically preferring Christians from anywhere in the Middle East because some are persecuted  somewhere there, generally much less than Muslims, doesn't follow from your premises--unless you replace the secular ideal of universal equality with an ideal of inequality founded upon religion.

(12-30-2016, 06:29 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: All things considered equal, Refugees from the Middle East where the only difference is Christian vs Muslim.

Zaidi Christian or Muslim?
Russia is not a part of the Middle East.
Christians in Bethleham are prosecuted by both, extremist Jews and Muslims and barely make up 1% of the total population in Gaza, so yes I would welcome them.
The Chaldeans have a strong presence in Iraq, but I don't know much about them.

I didn't know people were fleeing Jordan, Qatar and Lebanon. So were not talking Refugees then are we? Because they certainly are in the OP.