(08-28-2018, 01:21 PM)PhilHos Wrote: That's right. When it's a white shooter it's all over the news, but when it's an illegal immigrant, it's not. No one has heard of Mollie Tibbets but they damn sure have heard the name(s) of ... umm, the guys that were shot in Jacksonville. 

(01-03-2019, 07:12 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Heard about this today on NPR and brought me to mind of this issue:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/women%E2%80%99s-march-cancelled-over-diversity-fears/ar-BBRAX2T?li=BBnbcA1&srcref=rss

A women's march was cancelled by organizers because it was feared to be too white. Apparently this white privilege does not extend to being able to march for women's rights.

(01-03-2019, 07:48 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The women's movement has been struggling with this issue for a while.  Most black women activists are concerned with "racial issues" in addition to "women's issues". Class differences have also arisen in the women's movement because poor women are more concerned about access to abortion while wealthy women are concerned with their chances of becoming vice-president at their job. Even Anti-Semitism has become an issue because some of the top leaders in the women's movement are blacks who at times work with Louis Farrakahn.

The ladies have a lot to work out, but it is fascinating how many white dudes have latched onto this as a way to cling to their victim cards.

(01-03-2019, 08:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yeah, what better way to prove you're not anti-Semitic than to cancel a march because it's too white.

(01-03-2019, 08:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Some folks will ignore the obvious just so they can cling to their subjective beliefs.  

(01-03-2019, 08:37 PM)Beaker Wrote: Whats wrong with having a womens march that is predominantly white in a predominantly white area? 

(01-03-2019, 08:49 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Because very few people know the racial composition of Humbolt County, so there is concern that it might give the appearance of excluding women of color.

(01-03-2019, 08:52 PM)Beaker Wrote: So anytime a large group of white people get together....even if its to march for minority or female rights, or any other good cause....it shouldnt be done because they should worry that they appear racist?

(01-03-2019, 09:09 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No.  Only in cases where there is already a pre-existing conflict simmering in the group over racial issues.

It would be like me wearing a Carson Palmer jersey to a Bengals game.  To outsiders who did not follow the situation it might seem silly for some Bengal fans to harass a fellow Bengal fan for wearing a Bengal jersey, but because of the conflict within our group I don't wear my Palmer jersey to games.

(01-04-2019, 02:52 PM)jj22 Wrote: In the real world, not this trolling on a serious issue we see from some in this thread, we are once again seeing this play out as the Fake News Media and Americans force Rashida Tlaib out for saying a curse word on tape.

As the nation, news media, and her critics acts like we haven't hear Trump cuss on numerous occasions without any backlash. The POTUS.

But we know what this backlash is about. She's a Muslim, and well, unfortunately minorities are held at higher standards.

(01-04-2019, 04:58 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No doubt if a white guy Congressman said "we're going to impeach that MFer" on his first day on the job it wouldn't have even made twitter. This is ONLY news because of White Privilege. Stupid Trolls

(01-04-2019, 05:11 PM)GMDino Wrote: No it made news because suddenly members of the GOP are just clutching their pearls over such languages as they have never heard before!

(01-04-2019, 05:22 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No doubt GOP's  (whitey's) fault.

(01-04-2019, 04:58 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No doubt if a white guy Congressman said "we're going to impeach that MFer" on his first day on the job it wouldn't have even made twitter. This is ONLY news because of White Privilege. Stupid Trolls

• Fast and furious: Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner threatened to impeach administration officials and possibly the president over the botched gun-running investigation, telling Attorney General Eric Holder: "If we don’t get to the bottom of this -- and that requires your assistance on that -- there is only one alternative that Congress has, and it is called impeachment."
  

• Boston bombing: A Washington Times columnist called for impeaching Obama after the Boston Marathon bombing because he fails to realize that "we are in a clash of civilizations between radical Islam and the West."
  
• Joe Sestak: Dick Morris, America's best columnist, and Sean Hannity, America's best TV host, agreed that it was a "de facto bribe" and "an impeachable offense" when the White House allegedly pushed former Pennsylvania senatorial candidate Joe Sestak out of a Democratic primary.
  
• Guns: A whole slew of Republican lawmakers have floated impeaching Obama over post–Sandy Hook gun laws, and Rep. Steve Stockman even planned to introduce articles of impeachment in the House. Unfortunately, due to their efforts, Obama's watered-down gun safety bill died in the Senate.
  
• Debt: South Carolina Republican Sen. Tim Scott, then in the House, said that if Obama invoked the 14th Amendment to circumvent the debt ceiling, it would be an “impeachable act.” Rep. Steve King promised "Obama would be impeached" if the government defaulted.
  
• Balanced budget: Rep. Mo Brooks in January proposed a constitutional amendment that would make failing to balance the nation’s budget an impeachable offense.
  
• Immigration: Former Sen. Jon Kyl, then the No. 2 Republican senator, responded to Obama's deferred action immigration policy by telling radio host Bill Bennett that “impeachment is always a possibility," especially if there are “shenanigans involved.” Rush Limbaugh joined the fun, as did the restrictionist group AILPAC, which has a petition up on its website to impeach the president.
  
• DOMA: Newt Gingrich (who has some experience with impeachment) suggested impeaching the president over his decision to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act in court while Herman Cain called it near-treason. Social conservative stalwart Rep. Trent Franks hinted at impeachment, too.
  
• Bush tax cuts: Anti-tax activist Grover Norquist said if Obama failed to extend the Bush tax cuts, “Republicans will have enough votes in the Senate in 2014 to impeach."
  
• Island giveaway conspiracy: A Texas congressional candidate wanted to impeach Obama in 2012 for supposedly giving away a string of islands to Russia.
  
• Recess appointments: Fox News' Neil Cavuto wondered if Obama could be impeached for making recess appointments. Sadly, a Fox legal analyst said no.
  
• Libya: Bruce Fein, a lawyer who has written articles of impeachments against Clinton, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, did the same for Obama in 2011 over the military intervention in Libya, alleging that it violated the Constitution's mandate that only Congress can declare war.
  
• Birth certificate: A former GOP congressman who ran for office again in 2010 suggested the idea of moving to impeach Obama in order to pressure him to release his birth certificate.
  
• Just existing: When a man told Rep. Michele Bachmann that President Obama should be impeached just because, Bachmann replied, "Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I agree, I agree." Texas Republican Michael Burgess told a Tea Party group in 2011 that he would push to impeach Obama for just generally being liberal.When a reporter asked him later what the charges would be, Burgess said he wasn't sure, but said "it needs to happen" so Republicans can tie up Obama's legislative agenda.
  

(01-04-2019, 05:31 PM)GMDino Wrote: Well as it is the GOP complaining...yes.  Unless we have something from them complaining about such language from their own this is a non-issue meant to distract.

But thanks for the chance to use this...its been a while:

(01-04-2019, 05:38 PM)Dill Wrote: A little jog down memory lane could be useful here.

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/08/rep-burgess-impeach-obama-060949

Impeaching President Barack Obama “needs to happen,” Rep. Michael Burgess (R-Texas) told a local tea party group, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported Tuesday.

https://www.salon.com/2013/05/10/impeach_obama_again/

Taking things to their logical conclusion this afternoon, Oklahoma Republican Sen. Jim Inhofe suggested on a conservative radio show that President Obama may be be impeached over Benghazi. “Of all the great coverups in history -- the Pentagon papers, the Iran-Contra, Watergate and all the rest of them -- this … is going to go down as the most serious,” Inhofe said, a tad hyperbolically. “People may be starting to use the I-word," he added.

There's no doubt that people will start using the "the I-word" around Benghazi considering they've already invoked impeachment so, so, so many other times. Here's a brief history of threats to impeach President Obama that have gone nowhere, in no particular order:

• Fast and furious: Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner threatened to impeach administration officials and possibly the president over the botched gun-running investigation, telling Attorney General Eric Holder: "If we don’t get to the bottom of this -- and that requires your assistance on that -- there is only one alternative that Congress has, and it is called impeachment."
  
  

• Boston bombing: A Washington Times columnist called for impeaching Obama after the Boston Marathon bombing because he fails to realize that "we are in a clash of civilizations between radical Islam and the West."
  
• Joe Sestak: Dick Morris, America's best columnist, and Sean Hannity, America's best TV host, agreed that it was a "de facto bribe" and "an impeachable offense" when the White House allegedly pushed former Pennsylvania senatorial candidate Joe Sestak out of a Democratic primary.
  
• Guns: A whole slew of Republican lawmakers have floated impeaching Obama over post–Sandy Hook gun laws, and Rep. Steve Stockman even planned to introduce articles of impeachment in the House. Unfortunately, due to their efforts, Obama's watered-down gun safety bill died in the Senate.
  
• Debt: South Carolina Republican Sen. Tim Scott, then in the House, said that if Obama invoked the 14th Amendment to circumvent the debt ceiling, it would be an “impeachable act.” Rep. Steve King promised "Obama would be impeached" if the government defaulted.
  
• Balanced budget: Rep. Mo Brooks in January proposed a constitutional amendment that would make failing to balance the nation’s budget an impeachable offense.
  
• Immigration: Former Sen. Jon Kyl, then the No. 2 Republican senator, responded to Obama's deferred action immigration policy by telling radio host Bill Bennett that “impeachment is always a possibility," especially if there are “shenanigans involved.” Rush Limbaugh joined the fun, as did the restrictionist group AILPAC, which has a petition up on its website to impeach the president.
  
• DOMA: Newt Gingrich (who has some experience with impeachment) suggested impeaching the president over his decision to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act in court while Herman Cain called it near-treason. Social conservative stalwart Rep. Trent Franks hinted at impeachment, too.
  
• Bush tax cuts: Anti-tax activist Grover Norquist said if Obama failed to extend the Bush tax cuts, “Republicans will have enough votes in the Senate in 2014 to impeach."
  
• Island giveaway conspiracy: A Texas congressional candidate wanted to impeach Obama in 2012 for supposedly giving away a string of islands to Russia.
  
• Recess appointments: Fox News' Neil Cavuto wondered if Obama could be impeached for making recess appointments. Sadly, a Fox legal analyst said no.
  
• Libya: Bruce Fein, a lawyer who has written articles of impeachments against Clinton, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, did the same for Obama in 2011 over the military intervention in Libya, alleging that it violated the Constitution's mandate that only Congress can declare war.
  
• Birth certificate: A former GOP congressman who ran for office again in 2010 suggested the idea of moving to impeach Obama in order to pressure him to release his birth certificate.
  
• Just existing: When a man told Rep. Michele Bachmann that President Obama should be impeached just because, Bachmann replied, "Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I agree, I agree." Texas Republican Michael Burgess told a Tea Party group in 2011 that he would push to impeach Obama for [/url][url=http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/08/08/3277547/burgess-meets-with-unhappy-tea.html#ixzz1UXhsF0el#storylink=cpy]just generally being liberal.When a reporter asked him later what the charges would be, Burgess said he wasn't sure, but said "it needs to happen" so Republicans can tie up Obama's legislative agenda.
  

This last one is especially interesting.  

(01-04-2019, 05:38 PM)Dill Wrote: A little jog down memory lane could be useful here.

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/08/rep-burgess-impeach-obama-060949

Impeaching President Barack Obama “needs to happen,” Rep. Michael Burgess (R-Texas) told a local tea party group, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported Tuesday.

https://www.salon.com/2013/05/10/impeach_obama_again/

Taking things to their logical conclusion this afternoon, Oklahoma Republican Sen. Jim Inhofe suggested on a conservative radio show that President Obama may be be impeached over Benghazi. “Of all the great coverups in history -- the Pentagon papers, the Iran-Contra, Watergate and all the rest of them -- this … is going to go down as the most serious,” Inhofe said, a tad hyperbolically. “People may be starting to use the I-word," he added.

There's no doubt that people will start using the "the I-word" around Benghazi considering they've already invoked impeachment so, so, so many other times. Here's a brief history of threats to impeach President Obama that have gone nowhere, in no particular order:

• Fast and furious: Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner threatened to impeach administration officials and possibly the president over the botched gun-running investigation, telling Attorney General Eric Holder: "If we don’t get to the bottom of this -- and that requires your assistance on that -- there is only one alternative that Congress has, and it is called impeachment."
  
  

• Boston bombing: A Washington Times columnist called for impeaching Obama after the Boston Marathon bombing because he fails to realize that "we are in a clash of civilizations between radical Islam and the West."
  
• Joe Sestak: Dick Morris, America's best columnist, and Sean Hannity, America's best TV host, agreed that it was a "de facto bribe" and "an impeachable offense" when the White House allegedly pushed former Pennsylvania senatorial candidate Joe Sestak out of a Democratic primary.
  
• Guns: A whole slew of Republican lawmakers have floated impeaching Obama over post–Sandy Hook gun laws, and Rep. Steve Stockman even planned to introduce articles of impeachment in the House. Unfortunately, due to their efforts, Obama's watered-down gun safety bill died in the Senate.
  
• Debt: South Carolina Republican Sen. Tim Scott, then in the House, said that if Obama invoked the 14th Amendment to circumvent the debt ceiling, it would be an “impeachable act.” Rep. Steve King promised "Obama would be impeached" if the government defaulted.
  
• Balanced budget: Rep. Mo Brooks in January proposed a constitutional amendment that would make failing to balance the nation’s budget an impeachable offense.
  
• Immigration: Former Sen. Jon Kyl, then the No. 2 Republican senator, responded to Obama's deferred action immigration policy by telling radio host Bill Bennett that “impeachment is always a possibility," especially if there are “shenanigans involved.” Rush Limbaugh joined the fun, as did the restrictionist group AILPAC, which has a petition up on its website to impeach the president.
  
• DOMA: Newt Gingrich (who has some experience with impeachment) suggested impeaching the president over his decision to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act in court while Herman Cain called it near-treason. Social conservative stalwart Rep. Trent Franks hinted at impeachment, too.
  
• Bush tax cuts: Anti-tax activist Grover Norquist said if Obama failed to extend the Bush tax cuts, “Republicans will have enough votes in the Senate in 2014 to impeach."
  
• Island giveaway conspiracy: A Texas congressional candidate wanted to impeach Obama in 2012 for supposedly giving away a string of islands to Russia.
  
• Recess appointments: Fox News' Neil Cavuto wondered if Obama could be impeached for making recess appointments. Sadly, a Fox legal analyst said no.
  
• Libya: Bruce Fein, a lawyer who has written articles of impeachments against Clinton, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, did the same for Obama in 2011 over the military intervention in Libya, alleging that it violated the Constitution's mandate that only Congress can declare war.
  
• Birth certificate: A former GOP congressman who ran for office again in 2010 suggested the idea of moving to impeach Obama in order to pressure him to release his birth certificate.
  
• Just existing: When a man told Rep. Michele Bachmann that President Obama should be impeached just because, Bachmann replied, "Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I agree, I agree." Texas Republican Michael Burgess told a Tea Party group in 2011 that he would push to impeach Obama for just generally being liberal.When a reporter asked him later what the charges would be, Burgess said he wasn't sure, but said "it needs to happen" so Republicans can tie up Obama's legislative agenda.
  

This last one is especially interesting.